blairwitch
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posted on June 28, 2003 06:56:11 PM new
For those who dont read the board:
Save Submit Preferences
Sellers, if you routinely use the Submit page, you can now save your preferences. Set your auction length, shipping policies, minimum bidder rating, closing time, and others. Sell now!
Blacklisting Sellers
Bidders, have you had a bad experience with a seller? Blacklisting gives you an easy way to avoid their listings. Check out the help page for more information.
Lowering Start Price on Live Auctions
Sellers, now you have the ability to lower the start price of a live auction without any bids. Just go to the "Manage Your Auction" page and click on "Lower Start Price." If your auction does not have any bids, you can enter a new lower starting price.
Save Your Favorites
You can now save your favorite categories, sellers, and searches and set Alerts to have new results sent directly to you. Just go to "My Auctions" and click on "Favorites." Start saving!
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stonecold613
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posted on June 28, 2003 10:44:16 PM new
I noticed that two days ago. It is about time. On relists, it didn't matter as it remembered your settings, but for new listings you used to have to reput in all of the info. Now all you do is click the save my preferences box and it will save the info. And unlike ebay, all of the saved info is common info that actually applies to all of my auctions. Kudos to this tweeking of the listing page.
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blairwitch
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posted on June 29, 2003 11:05:08 AM new
Yahoo keeps adding positive changes, while ebay makes it harder and harder. The submit change will be a huge timesaver. 
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tomwiii
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posted on June 29, 2003 11:29:07 AM new
Hardee Har! Har!
OTOH...
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AuctionAce
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posted on June 29, 2003 12:01:17 PM new
Ebay has made huge strides in perfecting the listing process. No longer does the listing process hang up like it use to. They have a category search that finds possible choices to list your item in. Ebay makes 5 improvements for every improvement that Yahoo makes and Yahoo becomes more and more behind in the features race.
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vvalhalla
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posted on June 29, 2003 12:23:27 PM new
"I'm a programer at ebaY and I'm here to help. This simple 5 page auction creation platform will streamline your operation."(insert smile face)
dd
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AuctionAce
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posted on June 29, 2003 01:07:18 PM new
It is a heck of a lot faster and more stable then it was. It just takes a little getting use to.
I do dislike the " Item Specifics " that ebay is now cramming down the sellers throats on most categories. Of course there are so many lazy sellers that will not take the time to describe the basics of their item that those item specifics become a necessay thing.
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blairwitch
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posted on June 29, 2003 03:36:52 PM new
How long does it take to list an item on ebay these days? 10 minutes? Turbo lister is a disaster and we all know why they eliminated the so easy to use mister lister. Give me yahoo's listing page anyday.
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stonecold613
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posted on June 29, 2003 04:11:55 PM new
Ebay has made huge strides in perfecting the listing process. No longer does the listing process hang up like it use to.
Are you kidding me. The list your item 2.0 form is a lousiest thing to ever hit the net. With the old form, it used to take me about 1 minute and 30 seconds to list an item. Now on a good day, you are lucky to get an item listed in 5 minutes. I took a look back over the past two months of listings that I did. The average time between listings was nearly 7 minutes. Oh ebay's listing process is so much better. NOT!
Too bad they are the king, because Yahoo system is 1000% times faster and much easier. And now even faster than before. Time for bids to go lay by his ioffer dish and take a nap.
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blairwitch
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posted on June 29, 2003 05:52:53 PM new
I use auction submit when listing on ebay.
Listing items manually would be a nightmare. Yahoo is leagues ahead of ebay on this issue.
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AuctionAce
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posted on June 29, 2003 05:53:51 PM new
How would you know Stone? You relist that same lame auction over and over again. You can manually launch an auction in a few short minutes once you get the hang of it. It never hangs up except for the iPix photos. If you rode on bus system and the service was horrible and quit using it isn't it possible that the fixed the system and it runs great now? To condemn to system for it's past is very foolish. Pay the third party services to list or learn the system and save some money.
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stonecold613
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posted on June 29, 2003 09:27:29 PM new
Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah.
Oh bids, you are really original there. Still waiting for you to put your ioffer listing where your mouth is.
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AuctionAce
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posted on June 29, 2003 09:52:37 PM new
Stoney, You're a natural to sell on BV. Those old records take years to sell and the insertion fees on ebay and Yahoo must be killing you.
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neonmania
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posted on June 29, 2003 11:11:00 PM new
I a little curious - I won 6 items this week on yahoo that all sell for double to triple the price on ebay. Why are people still selling on Yahoo?
Mario Andretti - “If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough.”
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AuctionAce
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posted on June 29, 2003 11:19:27 PM new
Here's an earlier post of mine on the subject
posted on June 26, 2003 07:35:47 PM edit
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The roll call is for Dinosaur sellers only please. Taking advantage of desprate sellers does not count.
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neonmania
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posted on June 30, 2003 07:53:46 AM new
I don't feel I took advantage of a desperate seller, just of a bad situation. Seller has a couple hundred auctions up at any one time, all with a fair price opening price. It just so happens that some of the items are more sought after than others but the buyers are on ebay, not Yahoo.
One widget for example closed for under $10 where as there are three of these items currently up on ebay with current prices of between $25 and $30.
I can understand selling items you have a large supply of on yahoo as a suplimental market but when the largest number of bidders are clearly on ebay and a few completed item searches will clearly show that your items close higher on ebay, why are people still using yahoo? Considering the current economic situation, I am lost to figure out why someone would turn their back on higher profits.
Mario Andretti - “If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough.”
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AuctionAce
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posted on June 30, 2003 08:37:07 AM new
I guess the smiley face didn't copy n' past very well. I too have noticed many ebay sellers trying their luck at Yahoo. I had on on my watchlist that started at 99 cents ( showcase auction ) with no reserve and a $100 BIN price. The auction shows it closed at 0 bids and $0.00 but the advanced bidding history shows 7 bids and a high of $5.55 about 5 days into the auction at which point the seller canceled the bids and ended the auction. That must go on a lot on Yahoo while on ebay the seller would have had a chance to get a decent price. Who needs a reserve when you can cancel bids and end an auction?
http://page.auctions.shopping.yahoo.com/show/bid_hist?aID=76298118&aucview=0x74
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blairwitch
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posted on June 30, 2003 11:47:55 AM new
Why are people still selling on Yahoo?
The answer could be excess stock or wanting to spread their inventory. I use yahoo as a buyer and seller and I like the site alot. There are many "hobby sellers" on yahoo that will not use ebay, but I would say the yahoo seller knows the ebay prices. 
Who needs a reserve when you can cancel bids and end an auction?
Happens on ebay all the time as well. Heck I did it myself on ebay in the past, but not yahoo. I set flat prices on yahoo.
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neonmania
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posted on June 30, 2003 12:11:32 PM new
::but I would say the yahoo seller knows the ebay prices. ::
Blair - these are not common items but in their niche they are well known, loved and sought after. I don't think this seller is aware of ebay pricing or doing their research since I found this partiular seller via a froogle search that brought up some especially sought after pieces for a great price. I was even more shocked when I went to the actual auction and they had closed with no bidders. This same item had closed on ebay a few weeks earlier for 5 times their unmet opening bid price. This leads me to believe they are not paying attention.
Mario Andretti - “If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough.”
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blairwitch
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posted on June 30, 2003 01:28:05 PM new
It pays to use stats in this business. One of the reasons I respect dimview. Years ago I just threw items on with no idea of their true value. Now before putting items on I do research from viewing previous and current listings for the same item. Seems like the seller isnt doing his/her homework which is costing him/her money.
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stonecold613
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posted on June 30, 2003 09:07:59 PM new
A seller is selling an item for much less than they should be? Why don't you e-mail them and let them know. Or better yet, buy them up and relist them on Ebay. If that seller has them listed at a price and is willing to accept that amount, what's the problem. I would think that you both win.
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neonmania
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posted on June 30, 2003 09:18:06 PM new
I am buying them up Stone - did you not read my first post? And yes, I have every intention of reselling them.
My question is one of logic using this seller as an example. Being the evil capitalist that I am, the act of choosing a lessor marketplace to sell ones product baffles me beyond comprehension. As a yahoo cheerleader perhaps you can explain the logic.
BTW - these are not items that the seller is blanketing multiple marketplaces with.
Mario Andretti - “If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough.”
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AuctionAce
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posted on July 1, 2003 08:04:32 AM new
Most of the old time ebay sellers on Yahoo will do what this seller did ... get cold feet and cancel and close the auction. Many are trying out Yahoo for the first time but know the ropes. Heck, with the seller's email address in the auction description they may generate some off site deals and it only cost a nickel.
BW, I know that it goes on at ebay as well and both sites need to create a safeguard against this practice. Perhaps something like the too many bid retractions for bidders vague rule at ebay. By allowing sellers to constantly cancel bids and end auctions it has to give bidders the sense that the auctions are not on the up and up. The problem at Yahoo is that with the 5 cent listing fee it is not expensive to do when compared to ebay.
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AuctionAce
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posted on July 1, 2003 11:00:18 PM new
BW, have they sent out a search party for Dim yet? I bet that devil's up in Canada again! I still don't know Dim's gender. To keep this stuff on topic, isn't all this taking a DimView of Yahoo Auctions getting ridiculous. The moderators use to fall for lines like that all the time.
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blairwitch
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posted on July 2, 2003 11:19:48 AM new
AA, things are dead at the cow pasture so either dim is away on business, or isnt posting. If not for my featured seller stat post the bidville forum would have been dead, but then again so is bidville.
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AuctionAce
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posted on July 2, 2003 12:52:07 PM new
Speaking of Moo, those Moo stores are twenty dollars a month are almost the same as the free ioffer stores. Patty got only 10 takers for the stores. I can easily see Patty giving up on the Moo and concentrating on selling on ebay instead.
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blairwitch
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posted on July 2, 2003 02:17:52 PM new
AA, I think their plan was to start an online community that catered to 3rd tier sites hoping they could build enough members to start their own. They dont have near enough members and they failed on several attempts to open an auction site. They were able to snag a few to the moo stores, but the traffic must be slim. Most forums are basically dead. What is needed are more community members.
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AuctionAce
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posted on July 2, 2003 02:49:34 PM new
The Mad Cow Forum was stopped, why? Do you think the owner was afraid of possible lawsuits?
I do think one of the main goals was a third tier auction site of her own with unified support of third tier sellers/buyers. What's the old saying? " The Best Laid Plans of Mice and Cows ". It's fairly evident that the dreams are never going to come true at the Moo. The ebay forum is even deader than dead at the Moo and there should be some discussion going on but there isn't because most of the Moo users are gentle folk from the sleepy town of Bidville. ( that's not a slur and is almost complimentary )
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blairwitch
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posted on July 2, 2003 06:26:32 PM new
I think in the beginning the MCF was used to gain traffic to the site, however in my opinion it hurt the site in the long run. You may recall they required signing up to view the MCF. The ebay forum is painfully dead when it should be the most active. The moo was good to watch the bidville war, but thats about it. The ebay forum here at vendio is getting larger it seems.
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AuctionAce
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posted on July 3, 2003 07:31:41 PM new
testing my sig file mofication in the most remote outpost on Vendio
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Sargent Stadanko ---- Senior Investigating Officer, Internet Fraud Unit, International Web Police.
[ edited by AuctionAce on Jul 3, 2003 07:33 PM ]
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