I have a jar in my cupboard, it's probably been there for 10 years. The really weird thing about that stuff is that it doesn't go bad or get stale. I guess even bacteria won't touch it. LOL
posted on August 15, 2005 11:42:33 PM new
Well...please promise you won't drink it if it's THAT old.
But hey...check on ebay...you never know maybe someone would buy the empty bottle just for the label. People collect everything....it always surprises me.
posted on August 16, 2005 03:07:26 AM new
Piinthesky: I called up Frank to sing a song just for you! :0
Fly Me To The Moon
Come Fly me to the moon
Let me play among the stars
Let me see what spring is like
On a-Jupiter and Mars
In other words hold my hand
In other words baby kiss me
Fill my heart with song
And let me sing for ever more
You are all I long for
All I worship and adore
In other words, please be true
In other words, I love you
Fill my heart with song
Let me sing for ever more
You are all I long for
All I worship and adore
In other words, please be true
In other words, in other words
I love ... you
posted on August 16, 2005 04:09:24 AM new
Linda, they still make it. Although their biggest markets for it are overseas!
(Whadda ya know!)
Tang
In 1957, after two years of research, General Foods Corporation first launched Tang powdered beverage in the US in test markets. But the brand soon began crossing borders: Tang was introduced in Canada and Venezuela in 1959, and in Great Britain and Peru in 1961.
In the US, though, the brand’s biggest claim to fame was as a passenger on board manned space flights. The Gemini 4 astronauts were the first to bring Tang along on their mission in 1965. In fact, a special drink dispenser was designed for Tang for the mission. The brand continued crossing atmospheric borders over the ensuing 10 years, during which it was served on all manned Gemini and Apollo space flights.
The Tang brand offered two premiums in connection with the Apollo 16 and 17 flights in 1972: a replica of the lunar roving vehicle and a full-color map of the moon. The map was distributed free of charge to US schools.
Birth of a Brand
In 1957, after two years of research, General Foods Corporation first launched Tang powdered beverage in the US in test markets. But the brand soon began crossing borders: Tang was introduced in Canada and Venezuela in 1959, and in Great Britain and Peru in 1961.
In the US, though, the brand’s biggest claim to fame was as a passenger on board manned space flights. The Gemini 4 astronauts were the first to bring Tang along on their mission in 1965. In fact, a special drink dispenser was designed for Tang for the mission. The brand continued crossing atmospheric borders over the ensuing 10 years, during which it was served on all manned Gemini and Apollo space flights.
The Tang brand offered two premiums in connection with the Apollo 16 and 17 flights in 1972: a replica of the lunar roving vehicle and a full-color map of the moon. The map was distributed free of charge to US schools.
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[ edited by dblfugger9 on Aug 16, 2005 04:11 AM ]
posted on August 16, 2005 04:49:06 PM new
She paid a mother's ultimate price for Bush's war in Iraq. And now you're calling her a terrorist. That is truly disgusting.
How could she not know this? When all's said and done, she's not 'changing' anything.
She is distraught and unbalanced but all the same, she is definitely making an impact on public opinion.
It's not just one mother's grief. Two thousand of America's finest have died in Bush's war, with many more injured and maimed for life. We've still seen no valid justification for our presence in Iraq.
Oh, unless you count the fact that gas prices have doubled in the last year. Somebody's getting rich. Have we effectively shut down Iraq's oil production?
posted on August 16, 2005 05:02:20 PM newSomebody's getting rich.....yea, our enemies.
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Oh, dbl, I LOVE that song....brought back old memories of all of Frank's old movies I used to love and watch.
I couldn't wait until he made another one to go see it. I was infatuated with him. Years later as an adult I'd see the old films again and wonder what I ever saw in him. Tiny little skinny guy. LOL....but boy what a voice.
And on the info. about tang ....thanks - interesting read.
Yep....some of those 'premiums' that were offered way back then along with the products....are/were [haven't check recently] pulling a pretty penny on ebay. I know my mother had this old cow....I almost threw it away....turns out on ebay they were [at that time] selling for around $50.00. The collectors/bidders snapped it up quickly. And I got rid of a cow who'd lost her udder.
posted on August 16, 2005 05:16:17 PM newIn my opinion she needs to go home now. She is not going to get what she wants...
I think she should "STAY THE COURSE" until her "MISSION IS ACCOMPLISHED".
So you don't think Time Magazine should be showing the public her past political leanings/activies of supporting terrorist who are our enemies?
Once again Linda show her stupidity. Anyone who speaks out against the war is not supporting the troops, they are un-American and now they are supporting the terrorists. I'd like her to explain this.
If anyone is supporting the terrorists as Linda so boldly claims, then they would be arrested under the Patriot Act.
Section 805 of the Patriot Act expands the definition of “material support” to terrorism to include “monetary instruments” and “expert advice or assistance,” amending a law passed following the Oklahoma City bombing (the Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996). The full definition now reads:
“Currency or monetary instruments or financial securities, financial services, lodging, training, expert advise or assistance, safehouses, false documentation or identification, communications equipment, facilities, weapons, lethal substances, explosives, personnel, transportation, and other physical assets, except medicine or religious materials.” (Sec. 2339, Title 18, U.S.C.)
So Linda based on the above definition of what it means to support terrorists, explain how Cindy or anyone else that speaks out against the war is aiding terrorists.
If anyone is un-American it is Linda since she does not know what is said in the Constitution or what this country was founded on. It was the early settlers of the country that spoke up against the British and fought for what we have today. If they simply said yes to the British and did what the British wanted (as Linda is suggesting), we would all be answering to Tony Blair right now.
Perhaps Linda would like to sacrifice her kids in the name of Bush.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on August 17, 2005 07:35:49 PM new
More from the grieving mother.
CINDY UNLEASHED: 'THE BIGGEST TERRORIST IN THE WORLD IS GEORGE W. BUSH'
Wed Aug 17 2005 21:51:56 ET
"We are not waging a war on terror in this country. We're waging a war of terror. The biggest terrorist in the world is George W. Bush!"
So declared Cindy Sheehan earlier this year during a rally at at San Francisco State University.
Sheehan, who is demanding a second meeting with Bush, stated: "We are waging a nuclear war in Iraq right now. That country is contaminated. It will be contaminated for practically eternity now."
Sheehan unleashed a foul-mouth tirade on April 27, 2005:
"They're a bunch of #*!@ hypocrites! And we need to, we just need to rise up..." Sheehan said of the Bush administration.
"If George Bush believes his rhetoric and his #*!@, that this is a war for freedom and democracy, that he is spreading freedom and democracy, does he think every person he kills makes Iraq more free?"
"The whole world is damaged. Our humanity is damaged. If he thinks that it's so important for Iraq to have a U.S.-imposed sense of freedom and democracy, then he needs to sign up his two little party-animal girls. They need to go to this war."
END
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Again, she still doesn't 'get it' that her son volunteered HIMSELF.....no one 'signed HIM up'.
posted on August 17, 2005 07:43:51 PM new
One of LindaTwelveK's favorites!
3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause. The most significant common thread among these regimes was the use of scapegoating as a means to divert the people’s attention from other problems, to shift blame for failures, and to channel frustration in controlled directions. The methods of choice—relentless propaganda and disinformation—were usually effective. Often the regimes would incite “spontaneous” acts against the target scapegoats, usually communists, socialists, liberals, Jews, ethnic and racial minorities, traditional national enemies, members of other religions, secularists, homosexuals, and “terrorists.” Active opponents of these regimes were inevitably labeled as terrorists and dealt with accordingly.
posted on August 18, 2005 10:53:37 AM new
Open letter from Ralph Nader to Cindy Sheehan
Dear Ms. Sheehan,
From your grief over the loss of your son, Casey, in Iraq has come the courage to spotlight nationally the cowardly character trait of a President who refuses to meet with anyone or any group critical of his illegal, fabricated, deceptive war and occupation of that ravaged country.
As a messianic militarist, Mr. Bush turned aside his own father's major advisers who warned him of the terroristic, political, and diplomatic perils to the United States from an invasion of Iraq. He refused to listen.
Thirteen organizations in early 2003 separately wrote their President requesting a meeting to have him hear them out as to why they opposed his drumbeating, on-the-road-to war policies. These groups represented millions of Americans. They included church leaders, veterans, business, labor, retired intelligence officials, students, women and others. They are among those Americans who are not allowed through the carefully screened public audiences that are bused to arenas around the country to hear his repetitive slogans for carrying on this draining, boomeranging war. They each wrote President Bush but he never bothered even to acknowledge their letters simply to say no to the requested meetings. Not even the courtesy of a reply came from their White House.
Ever since then it has been the same—exclusion, denial, contempt and arrogance for views counter to that of Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney and the tight circle around them that composes the inner tin ear of this Administration. Why, they even refuse to listen to objections by their own government's military lawyers (JAG) over repeated violations of due process of law. When will he realize that he is supposed to be the President of all the people, not just those misled into supporting his Iraq maneuvers?
Perhaps the breakthrough will begin this hot August in Crawford, Texas, with the devastating loss of a beloved child transformed into a mission for the soul of our country. This rogue regime, led by two draft-dodgers and officially counseled by similar pro-war evaders during the Vietnam War, is not "our country." Millions of Americans, including military and public servants in his Administration, and many in the retired military, diplomatic and intelligence services, opposed this war, still oppose it and do not equate George W. Bush and Dick Cheney with the United States of America.
Our flag stands for "liberty and justice for all." Our flag must never be misused or defiled as a bandana for war crimes, as a gag against the people's freedom of speech and conscience or as a fig leaf to hide the shame of charlatans in high public office, who violate our Constitution, our laws and our founding fathers' framework for accountable, responsive government.
You will be goaded to cross the semantic line against a President who himself has crossed the much graver constitutional line that has cost so many lives on both sides and continues to cost and cost our country in so many ways domestically and before the world. Neglecting America for the Iraq war has become the widening downward path trod by the Bush government.
Authenticity, bereft of contrivances, is what must confront this White House Misleader. And authenticity is what you are and what drives you as you demand to see this resistant President. He is on an intermittent month long vacation, with spells for fundraisers and other insulated events. His schedule provides ample time for such a meeting. You reflect the hopes and prayers of millions of like-minded Americans. Should he relent and opens his doors, be sure to ask why he lowballs U.S. casualties in Iraq, deleting and disrespecting soldiers seriously hurt or sickened in the Iraq war theatre, but not in direct combat. Remind him of those soldiers back in military hospitals who, with their families, wonder why they are not being counted as they cope with their serious and permanent disabilities. (60 Minutes, CBS program).
Ask him why, despite Pentagon audits and GAO investigations about corruption, waste and non-delivery of services in Iraq by profiteering large corporations totaling billions of dollars, this Commander of Chief accepted campaign contributions from their executives and proceeds to let this giant corporate robbery continue without the requisite law and order?
Consider bringing to him a copy of President Dwight Eisenhower's famous "Cross of Iron" speech, delivered in April 1953 before the nation's newspaper editors in Washington, D.C. And add statements by Marine General Anthony Zinni (ret.), a Middle East specialist who strongly criticized the Bush-Cheney war policy before and after March 2003.
May you and your associates succeed in galvanizing the public debate in this country over why a growing majority of Americans now think it was a costly mistake to invade Iraq and want our soldiers back, with the U.S. out of that country. He knows that his support for how he is handling this war-occupation is falling close to one third of respondents in recent polls—the lowest yet. Even with the mass-media at his disposal everyday, he now represents a minority of public opinion, which should give him pause before closing his oil marinated doors on majority views in this nation.
May you prevail where others have failed to secure an audience with Mr. Bush.
Sincerely,
Ralph Nader
Posted by nimda in Special Features at 15:46
Edited spelling
[ edited by maggiemuggins on Aug 18, 2005 10:54 AM ]
posted on August 18, 2005 11:08:27 AM new
Ralph who?
News at Five!!!!!
See Cindy's heartfelt meeting with John Kerry!
The audience bursts into tears as he gently places a silk pillow with his medals (that he threw away) at her feet.
Autographed Photos available at concession booth 6.
posted on August 18, 2005 02:09:35 PM new
LOL...desquirrel
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maggie, I only read the first paragraph of your post with Nader LYING....and decided if he's lying from his first statements...then the rest probably is also lies.
From your grief over the loss of your son, Casey, in Iraq has come the courage to spotlight nationally the cowardly character trait of a President who refuses to meet with anyone or any group critical of his illegal, fabricated, deceptive war and occupation of that ravaged country.
This President HAS MET with ALL family members that has chosen to meet with him. Anything else is an out and out lie.
He's even taken the time to meet with 'both sides' of families where they have parents who have slip up or divorced, but share the loss of a mutual child.
So don't go believing that he's not willing to meet with even those parents who were against this war. He HAS.
And as we ALL know Ms. sheehan had her visit and was hugging, kissing and saying she felt President Bush meant what he said to her.
But because the left here thinks Ms. cindy sheehan deserves ANOTHER visit now, more than a YEAR later, and now that she's changed her political TUNE is nothing short of showing favortism. It's totally unreasonable, imo.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
[ edited by Linda_K on Aug 18, 2005 02:14 PM ]
posted on August 18, 2005 03:39:00 PM new
I posted the letter by Ralph Nader as a point of interest. I did not say I agree or disagree with what he wrote.
As a matter of fact, I think I previously posted that I would not have chosen the route that Cindy Sheehan has gone and although I sympathize with her grief, and greatly admire her courage to speak her mind, I do not think the President owes her another meeting.
I do however think Cindy has become the voice of those who oppose the war and through her feel their message is being heard..
I am not sure what she would expect President Bush to say to her? Other than express his sorrow for her loss, which I believe he has already done.
Does she believe that he will agree with her that this was an unjustified war? That her child was killed fighting for a pack of lies? I don't think he's about to do that.. so in my opinion, her job is done, she has accomplished what she set out to do, to have her voice heard world wide on how she feels about the war and the loss of her son in this war.
posted on August 18, 2005 11:52:55 PM new
No matter what you think of Cindy Sheehan, she definitely has more courage, more guts, more spirit,and more conviction in her fingernails than LindaTwelveK has in her entire blubbery, attached-at-the-hip-to-a-computer body.
This is the type of woman who got LindaTwelveK 's right to vote (even if she abuses that right by voting for the anti-christ himself).
This woman doesn't need the RT like Linda does....she's out in the real world with real people exercising her right as an American to voice her opinion to the WORLD.
And the WORLD is listening.
[ edited by mingotree on Aug 19, 2005 12:32 AM ]
posted on August 19, 2005 12:00:21 AM new
LindaTwelveK says,"So you don't think Time Magazine should be showing the public her past political leanings/activies of supporting terrorist who are our enemies? ""
The Saudis, who are close , personal friends of the Bushes, support terrorists much better... with MONEY ...TONS of it!
