vorlon4
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posted on December 31, 2000 10:50:27 PM new
I moved half to 3/4 my business to Yahoo with excllent results. Some weeks I ahve 100% sell through, this week I'm already at 70% with set buy prices and 5 days to go- haven't even had to feature anything yet.
There's literally thousands in sales that Ebay could have had commissions on but didn't.
Ebay pretty much forced me to go with all their assinine moves. I list 5- 10 there weekly with 15-25 on Yahoo.
Now they're crying about revenue streams. Oh boo hoo, cry me a river Billionaire Meg.
I'm very happy with Yahoo.
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nycrocker
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posted on January 1, 2001 02:11:41 PM new
I have only been selling on eBay a short time but I am already turned off to quite a few things. Once again I have to agree with Twinsoft  - instead of bitching and whining about it, I decided after reading enough of these posts, to just go try Yahoo. Why not? (Am I THAT afraid of change? Sheeeesh.) So I put up a couple quick "test" auctions there - and had bids already on day ONE. I am going to do both eBay and Yahoo for a while and see where I do better. But I already have a better feeling about Yahoo and the difference in the way they do things there. We shall see. Like it's been said, instead of staying with eBay and resenting it, we do have other options and the power in numbers to go make someplace else more worthwhile if we all take a chance there. It would be crazy not to when we don't even have anything to lose: NO FEES. I always think "If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem." So I don't wanna be part of the ebay SHEEP problem. Off to go work on Yahoo...  Rocker
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georgeviscomi
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posted on January 1, 2001 02:24:52 PM new
Did you try www.epier.com?
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dave_michmerhuizen
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posted on January 1, 2001 02:58:32 PM new
My items get one chance on eBay and then it's straight to Yahoo - where some gather dust, and some sell.
Design. phooey. Sales, that's what we want.
What makes Yahoo different is that some items gather dust for quite awhile before they sell - much like a quiet antique store. I have sold many items this past month that have been up since late summer. Obviously I could never do that on eBay.
This is where eBay sellers have trouble making the transition - they list a few 7 day auctions and then turn up their noses when nothing sells. Instead, they need to keep listing their inventory until they've stocked their yahoo booth - http://auctions.yahoo.com/booth/yahooo_name - and then wait for items to sell. The sales come in slower, but they are all profit, no risk.
If you're still thinking about it, here's something to try. Browse your target categories on Yahoo. Choose a few seller names. use the 'booth' url above to see their booths, then look at their 'sold items' tab. That gives you a better look at how people are actually doing.
My standard ebay 'item is being shipped' email contains an invitation and links to yahoo and to my yahoo booth. I wish all bi-auctional sellers would do that.
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CAgrrl
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posted on January 1, 2001 09:12:30 PM new
I had a look at both dutchbid.com & 321gone.com. I will try listing a bit on dutchbid & see what happens. 321gone doesn't look as viable to me right now- in the toys category there are almost 500 beanies listed but not much of anything else.
anyone with me???
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molly001
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posted on January 2, 2001 06:10:43 AM new
CA - I'm with ya! Are you going to do 321 as well? I got the impression that maybe you're not. How many items are you going to try? Gee, I have to go look at the categories!
I probably need to "freshen" my Yahoo listings a bit too.
BTW, DAVE_M: Is your Yahoo booth something separate from your listed auctions? I'm not sure if I've set up a booth or not. If it's separate from my listed auctions, I haven't.
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canvid13
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posted on January 2, 2001 06:59:03 AM new
I just checked out 321 and Dutch bid.
Tiny. And they don't offer a payment service like One Click on Amazon or Billpoint.
I think the only true alternative to ePAY is Amazon. I'd say Yahoo but I really think ePAy is going to buy them out.
Happpy New Year!
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thepriest
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posted on January 2, 2001 07:40:49 AM new
Looked at Dutchbid...
sent email with two questions....never recieved an answered...thus, not worth much time
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tuition44years
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posted on January 2, 2001 09:23:36 AM new
My advice to anyone wanting to try Dutchbid is to wait another week or two. They are currently transitioning Gold's into the Dutchbid site. Once the bulkloader and all the other Golds options are there, I'll be listing again.
I succesfully sold glass, thimbles and porcelain (tea cups and such), and a few other items at Golds. My most sucessful were my xs items. I ran 50-75 auctions running at a time and allowed bidders to 'shop' and bid for 30 days then 'cash out'. Did very well and had a steady repeat customer base who reappeared every other month or so. At least one new bidder with each new batch listed.
Easy to list/relist, no deadbeats, great support and decent $$. I sell xs for fun but it's nice to have that extra $$ each month for so little work!
Edited cause I can't seem to write today!
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I have a memory like a steel trap .. unfortunately it's rusted shut!
[ edited by tuition44years on Jan 2, 2001 09:25 AM ]
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molly001
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posted on January 2, 2001 12:23:29 PM new
vorlon4: LOL! Cry me a river....LOL! Tell me, do you have to feature on Yahoo? With a 100% sell-thru, did your auctions move to a noticable page (or did you still feature)? I agree, I put auctions on at Yahoo so that I wasn't so dependent on eBay. Now, going to try more new places. My sales on Yahoo were great before Christmas but seem to have fallen off? Have you experienced this as well?
Rocker: Good goin'! I found out there really is some green grass out there, eh?
George: Have you tried epier? Do you like it? I saw it mentioned in (maybe) another thread? Don't remember. What has been your experience?
canvid: I've always said I was going to try Amazon but, everytime I visited the Amazon discussions on AW, all I ever saw was yet another problem the sellers were talking about. I'm supposing you sell there(?). I'll try anything at least once because I fault myself for, inspite of the negative discussions, not trying it anyway. Any pointers?
Tuition: Thanks for the great tips on dutchbid!
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CAgrrl
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posted on January 2, 2001 12:33:24 PM new
tuition44years...thanks for the tips!! I registered last night and browsed the listings to see what was for sale. Haven't listed anything yet...I do plan to though.
molly- I think I'm going to pass on 321gone for now, might re-consider if it seems that other (non-beanie) toy sellers would list there as well.
canvid- I will be taking another look at amazon.com as well. I've been very happy with my sales from their marketplace. But as for the whole merger/takeover thing, I wouldn't even rule out the possibility of an amazon/ebay merger. Could happen couldn't it?
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canvid13
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posted on January 2, 2001 12:58:26 PM new
I looked at 321 and it's pretty empty.
LORI: I don't think Ebay could get Amazon. And frankly Amazon has a much better platform for sellers to do their thing. IMO their big problem was that they spintered the categories and cut off flow instead of simply being the choice for sellers who didn't mind paying for services and those that wanted FREE YAHOO service.
It's going to be interesting to see how things shake out. I think ePAY will buy out Yahoo pretty soon and that AMAZON will have new management brought in.
As for all these other little auction houses I don't think any of them will do much unless they either specialize in a small part of the market or have big bucks to spend to pull in sellers and buyers.
I won't mention which auction house but one of the smaller ones mentioned here has already offered me some goodies to list with them.
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molly001
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posted on January 2, 2001 07:39:20 PM new
Looks like we're going to have to rename this thread
"More restrictions, ebay alternatives?
Charging fees, Yahoo alternatives?"
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RebelGuns
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posted on January 2, 2001 07:47:05 PM new
I think selling by push carts may be next...
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molly001
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posted on January 2, 2001 10:12:58 PM new
dman3 mentioned AuxPal in another thread. I'm off to take a look. Anybody else had any experience with them?
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vorlon4
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posted on January 2, 2001 10:27:56 PM new
Molly:
I DO feature- usually with 3 days left in the auction. Featuring is actually the best bang for the buck on Yahoo. It usually triples the number of hits (at least). Featuring puts you on top of page 1 of your category.
Some weeks the regular buyers I dragged over from Epay scarf everything up. This week the regulars took 9 of 15 and 3 of the others have bids.
Hope this helps.
[ edited by vorlon4 on Jan 2, 2001 10:29 PM ]
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rnrgroup
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posted on January 2, 2001 11:28:56 PM new
Alternatives?
SmoothSale.Com
AuctionWeiser.Com
Popula.Com
oldandsold.com
Check out internetauctionlist.com for LOTS of alternatives.
Viable alternatives? sigh....... Yahoo just cut it's and our throats! -Rosalinda
TAGnotes - daily email synopsis about the Online Auction Industry
http://www.topica.com/lists/tagnotes
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molly001
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posted on January 3, 2001 06:50:18 AM new
Vorlon - Thanks for the input! Unfortunately, Yahoo's out of the picture for me now.
Rosalinda - Thanks for the fresh list of alternative sites and the website for LOTS of alternatives! Guess there's more out there than I thought.
Now, if those interested could just find a site (or 2) where we're not inudated with fees and unreasonable restrictions, this might just work.
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keziak
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posted on January 3, 2001 07:48:13 AM new
But...it's not even really the issue of fees. It's customer base. For example, I pay quite a lot to sell something on Amazon Marketplace. At first I thought I would never touch them. But after actually selling a bunch of books for good prices, I knew that what makes that option work is: customers.
Half.com: I pay 15% and sometimes extra to make up for the shipping allowance. But they have customers.
Ebay: fees everywhere you turn, but they have customers.
Yahoo only had enough customers to be worth paying $0 in fees. If they change their way of listing auctions and attract an active customer base, I'd pay 20 cents to list. No problem, as long as I had reason to believe I'd sell my stuff.
But putting my time and money into any venue without customers is simply a loser. [read: Amazon auctions]
keziak
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barrelracer
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posted on January 3, 2001 07:55:20 AM new
keziak
I used to do Amazon auctions, but haven't been to their site in awhile.
What is the difference between Amazon auctions and Amazon Marketplace?
~Not barrelracer on ebay, don't pick on them!~
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CAgrrl
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posted on January 3, 2001 08:45:50 PM new
a lot of Yahoo sellers seem to be gravitating toward's lycos auctions. I didn't even know till today that Lycos even HAD auctions, but I'll be taking a look there. I'm still planning to keep some current listings on Yahoo though.
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