CAgrrl
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posted on January 13, 2001 06:32:37 PM new
Nothing like a good earthquake to shake things up!
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brighid868
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posted on January 13, 2001 06:52:35 PM new
I missed it! Usually my dog alerts me---she feels them before I do and has a special "Mommy, what's happening?" whine that lets me know something's about to start shaking.
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Powerhouse
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posted on January 13, 2001 07:10:28 PM new
Nothing on the news nets. Where in CA?
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xardon
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posted on January 13, 2001 07:14:51 PM new
Well I read in another thread that Maui fell off her chair at about 5:04PM.
What time did you feel the tremor?
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bunnicula
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posted on January 13, 2001 07:16:13 PM new
San Fernando Valley. There was a second, sharp, jolt a few minutes later. I didn't feel it over here in the Inland Valley (about 40-50 miles away), but they mentioned it on the news. It was a 4 something on the Richter scale.
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nutspec
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posted on January 13, 2001 07:27:58 PM new
4.1 at 6:50 PM - 2 miles from San Fernando. I didn't feel it in Riverside - 60 Miles or so away.
Not sorry I missed it.
Nutspec
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nutspec
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posted on January 13, 2001 07:30:08 PM new
The first one one at 6:26 was 4.3 at the same place
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CAgrrl
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posted on January 13, 2001 07:37:25 PM new
I felt 2. I started this thread right after I felt the first one, then there was another one a little while after that & shut down the computer, just in case.
bunnicula, I'm in the SFV too- we're neighbors! 
Maui fell off her chair? It must have been much stronger there, nothing major happened here. Nothing really even fell off the walls or counters. WHEW.
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kitsch1
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posted on January 13, 2001 07:41:07 PM new
I'm glad it was a little one!
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reamond
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posted on January 13, 2001 07:43:29 PM new
The CA quake is now on the news wires. There was also a stronger one earlier today in Central America.
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CAgrrl
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posted on January 13, 2001 07:52:21 PM new
kitch- me too!!!!
reamond- did they say how bad it was in Central America?
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mauimoods
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posted on January 13, 2001 07:58:26 PM new
LOL! I fell off my chair from waving furiously at Kris in another thread. Thats what I get for sitting cross legged in a sarong that has fringe that wrapped around the rollers of said chair and leaning precariously forward to WAVE like a madwoman at my monitor. Happens every time
Im central calif...didnt feel a thing. Then again, my butt is numb from sitting here anyway, so I doubt I would have felt it even if it was in Pismo Beach!
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nutspec
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posted on January 13, 2001 08:07:43 PM new
A good site to look at is the Southern California Earthquake data center.
www.scecdc.scec.org
Click on earthquake maps and you should easily find the section listing all earthquakes - their locations and sizes.
Great fun when you play "did you feel that" - "you're nuts, that wansn't an earthquake!"
Picked up a 1.3 on the chart once that was directly under my house - that I feel was caused by the big hairy orange cat jumping off the counter.
That's the only explaination I could come up with at least.
Nutspec
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CAgrrl
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posted on January 13, 2001 08:26:44 PM new
nutspec THANK YOU! for posting that! My BF & I play that game all the time.
Do you guys remember the last large-ish non-major earthquake we had? He & I were both in bed sleeping. I felt the bed shaking & woke up right away. I said "Honey quit shaking the bed!! I'm trying to sleep." Then I realized it wasn't him & freaked out!! His response: "It's not an earthquake, go back to bed". He never even woke up!
LOL at your post! that must be one big cat!
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bunnicula
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posted on January 13, 2001 08:35:04 PM new
That last big 'quake in the San Fernando Valley was a few years back & took place early in the morning. Woke me up, and the "rolling" & shaking went on for a couple of minutes. Now, as you know, there will be "aftershocks" for days after a big quake...
The next morning & once again sprang awake in the early hours as my bed began to roll & shake as it had the day before. It didn't stop...went on & on seemingly forever. I thought "this is it--the BIG ONE!!!!"
Then I realized that it wasn't another quake at all. It was my Neapolitan Mastiff, Emma, who was sleeping on the bed with me--she was dreaming &, as dogs do, "running" in her sleep. She was so big that she was making the whole bed roll & shake as it had the day before! I saw the humor in it later that day, but at that point I simply snarled "knock it off, Emma!", stretched out a foot & shoved her off the bed, then rolled over and went back to sleep.
These days, before believing any big shake is an earthquake, I look around to see what my Great Dane, Chandra, is doing (Emma has long since passed on).
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krs
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posted on January 13, 2001 09:41:21 PM new
7.6 in central america. Many dead.
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CAgrrl
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posted on January 14, 2001 12:01:26 AM new
bunnicula- was LOL until I got to the last part of your post. Sorry to hear about Emma. 
krs- that's horrible!! I am really sad to hear that and am sincerely counting my blessings as I sit here typing away. What a close call!! That could easily have been any of us, y'know?
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krs
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posted on January 14, 2001 12:22:02 AM new
It's well beyond overdue for a big one. Could be any day now. Generally they seem to start south and move north with rising intensity as larger plates adjust down there. If I were a betting man, I'd put money on the LA basin and Malibu coast being decimated within a month with extensive damage from long beach to San Louis Obispo, and extending inland into the San Fernando Valley with Pomona, Chico, and Reseda hard hit.
Good time to visit back in Kansas, or wherever.
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CAgrrl
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posted on January 14, 2001 01:09:06 AM new
Is it an average of once every 10 years that there's a big one? Contrary to my ID here at AW, I'm not a native Californian- I transplanted here (for good) AFTER the Northridge quake.
Yeah, I could go visit my family in the DC area if I wanted to, but I actually think I'd prefer taking my chances with a quake. I love my family but I like to love them from a distance.
Methinks it's time to start buying earthquake supplies again.
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krs
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posted on January 14, 2001 01:23:02 AM new
There's no set average to rely on; it's just been a while too long. There's been a slowdown in minor tremblers and that often seems to signal a buildup to a big one. It's about ever increasing pressures on big pieces of rock. Pressed together, harder and harder until there's a give into movement.
It's fun, not to worry. A wonder to behold. Grand scale mother nature at her best. Whole hillsides move and fall, freeways and buildings collapse in a heap of squished cars and people. Fires erupt all over and there's little to fight them with because the water mains are split and water is geysering hundreds of feet in the air. Entire bridges fall into bays, houses everywhere slide and shift off of their foundations to break into kindling for the fires. Whole areas will have fallen brick chimneys with rubble blocking all of the streets. Great big splits in the land occur--big enough to swallow up entire neighborhoods of tract homes. Hundreds are killed sometimes, and more are maimed forever.
Tornadoes and Hurricanes are insignificant in comparison. Nothing is like the very land you rely on to be there not being where it was before.
What did you think we pay the big bucks for? The weather?
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CAgrrl
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posted on January 14, 2001 01:39:11 AM new
It is pretty awe inspiring! I just hope I'm not going to be one of the ones buried in the "heap of squished cars and people".
Well, I have to say that I would rather put up with a major quake once every X number of years, than endure snow & ice every single year. Shoveling snow is so tiresome, and I'm sure traffic fatalities caused by winter weather conditions completely eclipse any and all fatalities caused by earthquakes. I've been in a couple blizzard-induced car crashes and it really was no fun.
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krs
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posted on January 14, 2001 05:08:34 AM new
When driving, never let the traffic force you to be stopped under freeway overpasses. If it's creeping along, stop before you go under there and wait until it's clear all the way through. Then go. Same for tunnels if there are any.
Tons and tons, hundreds and thousands of tons of overhead roadway dropping more suddenly than any guillotine blade to squish into unrecognizable pulp YOU, if you're there.
And never put your head out the window at any time that you are under anything as it might be found blocks, even miles from your car, severed and squirted long distances like a cork from a bottle of champagne.
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HartCottageQuilts
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posted on January 14, 2001 05:34:27 AM new
Okay, I need some educating here. Are "earthquake supplies" the same as hurricane and blizzard supplies - bottled water, canned food (+ can opener), flashlight, etc?
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krs
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posted on January 14, 2001 05:48:03 AM new
Of course. Plus CAL OSHA approved hazmat blood and goo disposal bags.
Squish.
[ edited by krs on Jan 14, 2001 06:05 AM ]
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gravid
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posted on January 14, 2001 06:18:58 AM new
krs - Have you considered writing horror novels. I mean you might as well get paid for it guy. You could do horror/political books.
You may have noticed it is getting easier and easier to combine them.
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krs
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posted on January 14, 2001 06:30:27 AM new
Gravid,
You may not have noticed that horror/political is a redundancy.
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brighid868
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posted on January 14, 2001 11:47:20 AM new
I don't know----been here all 33 years of my life, haven't been squished yet. Haven't even lost a plate or a cup as a matter of fact. I've been through some wild earthquakes, it's true. The scariest was in about 1987 when I was working on the 5th floor of the old (1896) Robinson's Department Store headquarters in Downtown LA. The whole thing shook like a tree in the wind and I thought it was all over for me.
My good friend was living in Northridge and going to grad school at the time of the Northridge quake. He was living very, very close to the epicenter--within blocks!-- but was unhurt. His house was damaged but it wasn't serious enough to move. They still own that house.
My grandfather (87 years old, lived here since he was a teenager) likes to reminisce about a big earthquake in Long Beach in the early 1930s. He was playing baseball with his friends on a Long Beach diamond, about 20 miles south of where he lived with Grandma and his young kids, when out of nowhere the buildings around him began to literally disintegrate from the temblor. He said "I had a brand new pair of shoes, and that was the depression era. I wasn't about to go home without those shoes....I went into the dugout amid falling bricks and beams to get them. Later I thought "What an idiot!" but at the time it seemed important." My grandmother was scared and asked him to move the family back to Minnesota where he was born, but he said "Hell no---I'm not going back to shoveling snow" and stayed.
I'm staying here, too. I'll take my chances.
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nutspec
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posted on January 14, 2001 01:48:11 PM new
HCQ - In all seriousness (Sorry, but having your head out the window or not will make little difference if a overpass falls on you) My Father was in Mexico City in that earthquake (about an 8?) and he said it was 4 full minutes of shaking and pounding - so I have a different perspective than some about the "Big One"
If you survive the "Big One" it would likely mean a complete breakdown of modern utlities and normal distribution channels for goods and services for weeks. You should be able to cope on your own for 5 days to 2 weeks without making it to the store - having power - or with water pressure.
There are only 2 main corridors for rail coming into southern California. They would be cut. A complete replacement of say a mile of track along the fracture would take a week or two. All rail systems though are set up to shut down and have to inspect the entire track with any aftershock over 5.0 (of which there would be hundreds). They would mean that supply trains - once made would still require long delays to move. That would also assume that no rail bridges would fail.
Trucking and roads would be far more damaged and take longer to fix.
I have about 2 weeks worth of decent food - and some amounts of more grim fare - Dried rice, dried soups, etc. I have 2 40 gallon drums of water stored that is refreshed periodically. A generator and a power inverter (To turn a car battery into useable 110) will likely help me out.
I have no illusions about how thin the layer of civilization is. The "Big One" will bring out both the best of human nature - and the very worst. WHEN it happens - it will be the worst and most expensive emergency this country will have faced.
But, It may not happen for another 300 years - or it might happen this afternoon.
nutspec
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mauimoods
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posted on January 14, 2001 02:11:05 PM new
One can "prepare" all they want, but if the "big one" ever hits, then what is stored wont be much use. However, folks in Bakersfield will have find they dont have to drive 2 & 1/2 hours to reach the coast anymore...they will be ocean front property owners.
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shar9
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posted on January 14, 2001 04:33:01 PM new
Edited: sorry double post
[ edited by shar9 on Jan 14, 2001 05:01 PM ]
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