sarniaflower
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posted on May 10, 2003 09:37:49 AM new
This was my grandmas. I think it was a little purse or big pill box or ?. Measures about 3.25" tall, 2.25" at widest point, and just about a half inch deep when closed
Any help you could give would be appreciated
thanks a bunch
[ edited by sarniaflower on May 10, 2003 09:41 AM ]
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Libra63
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posted on May 10, 2003 02:27:15 PM new
Interesting....I think it is a purse by the looks of the closure. Remember back then they didn't have much money. I am going to bump this back up because today is the day everyone is out gathering their wares. How old would your grandmother be as that might help with s date.
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sarniaflower
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posted on May 10, 2003 05:30:11 PM new
If my grandma was still alive she would be about 105 give or take a year
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rarriffle
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posted on May 10, 2003 05:42:37 PM new
it is a purse. back in your grandmas day they didn't carry the crap we do today. when they went dancing they carried the essentials, such as a little rouge and a hankie....not much more.
i have never seen one like this though, very interesting.
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on May 10, 2003 05:52:02 PM new
Is there a mark on this anywhere? For example, "German Silver"?
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sarniaflower
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posted on May 10, 2003 06:06:53 PM new
I have looked and looked and I could find no markings of any kind
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kiara
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posted on May 10, 2003 06:33:55 PM new
It looks Art Nouveau, possibly European. Not sure if the right name is Chatelaine but I think they wore them on their belts or on a chain. These small purses could hold coins or as rarriffle said, a hankie.
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capotasto
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posted on May 10, 2003 06:48:32 PM new
I see a castle -- England, Ireland, Scotland -- did she bring it over from the old country?
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paloma91
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posted on May 10, 2003 08:47:30 PM new
I have some belonging to my grandmother too. She was 16 in the 1906 earthquake in san francisco. Boy! The stories she told. I think it is to keep coins in or a key. I remember her having an importance of keeping a coin or coins in a purse when a lady goes out.
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Roadsmith
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posted on May 10, 2003 10:34:14 PM new
My first thought was a chatelaine, too.
Do a key-word search on that and see if it turns up an answer for you. This is a very charming little item!
The chain on it reminds me of the chatelaines I've seen. The strap or chain had to be sturdy so that it could hang from a belt, and the lady of the house would keep important keys with or in it, too; must guard the liquor cabinet, you know, from the "help."
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Libra63
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posted on May 10, 2003 10:37:42 PM new
Is it called a minaudiere? I looked the word up in the dictionary but it wasn't there. They were used to hold your key. Circa 1910-1920. I found these in a book official 1985 price guide to antique jewelry page 375-376. The ones in the book are really expensive because they are gold and have pearls and diamonds but that doesn't mean that they didn't make them plain. But who knows what material your purse is made of because they didn't have to label them back then. We need a vintage jewelry person they probably know exactly what it is.
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Libra63
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posted on May 10, 2003 10:45:43 PM new
Here is the defination:
minaudiere. The American HeritageŽ Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth Edition. 2000.
...Inflected forms: pl. minˇauˇdieres (-dyarz, -dyar) A small ornamental case for a woman's cosmetics, jewelry, or personal items that is often carried as a handbag.
ButI am still searching.
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kiara
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posted on May 11, 2003 12:04:44 AM new
I think a Chatelaine was a metal hook or clasp that had all the "gear" hanging from chains off it.
They carried sewing items like thimbles and scissors in little cases, needle holders, bottles of smelling salts, little purses and also keys. Perhaps some may have had flat little calling card cases on them too. These were all on separate little chains.
This little purse may have been one of the items and it looks like it was made from a type of gun metal. Many of these items were silver plated or sterling silver.
I think it's charming also. I've never seen one like this before.
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rarriffle
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posted on May 11, 2003 06:00:43 AM new
when i was a young girl (more than 40 years ago and we will drop that subject), it was tradition for a young lady to carry enough coins to either call home or to get home. in those days the man paid for everything so a young lady would not need more money than that. when "penny" loafers came in vogue many girls used dimes instead of pennies because that is what a phone call cost.
just a moment of history here for the younger generation.
we've come a long way baby
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CBlev65252
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posted on May 11, 2003 07:18:32 AM new
Ah yes, I remember "penny" loafers (and saddle shoes, but let that one go, too). If this purse was used to carry coins, what kept the coins from spilling out everywhere when it was opened? It appears to open fully. Also, wouldn't coins make a huge racket in a metal purse? I'd say a hanky is a better bet.
Cheryl
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stopwhining
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posted on May 11, 2003 07:22:04 AM new
could be for pills,if you know you are going to take pills,you would open the box carefully and make sure nothing spills out.
or could be a piece of cotton soaked with perfume ??
dont mean to sound crude,but back in the old days,japanese women sliced two pieces of DAIKON,white turnip,and placed them under their armpit,mother nature deodorant!
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paloma91
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posted on May 11, 2003 07:58:41 AM new
One more thing: Does this little purse have a long handle/strap made out of chain or is it just the little clip thing that we see in your fotos.
If it is a small clip like handle, it could have been worn with a woman's pocket watch chain. Woman in the late 1800;s to very early 1900's wore pocket watches like men did. The only thing is that they were smaller. My Grandma had a small one and the chain AND now I remember that she had a little purse thing that clipped onto the chain to carry money or a key in.
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Roadsmith
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posted on May 11, 2003 09:01:14 AM new
rarriffle: We girls ( in the 50s ) called it "mad money" and made sure we had 50 cents or so in case something went wrong on a date.
My favorite mad money story is about a very very famous country singer whose initials are MR. He did a concert in Phoenix in the 50s and my best friend went to it. She somehow ended up in a car with him afterwards!!!--unheard of in those days but she was a real slut--in the desert outside Phoenix. He told her to "put out or get out." She got out, walked a while, and called home.
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auctionace
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posted on May 11, 2003 09:25:51 AM new
It took me a while but I think I know who MR is now.  Born in 1925 in Glendale, AZ and not El Paso, TX
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Roadsmith
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posted on May 11, 2003 12:32:11 PM new
Auctionace: I don't know when and where he was born, but his last name sounds like a bird. What an SOB.
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sarniaflower
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posted on May 11, 2003 03:42:19 PM new
it has a chain which has been broken so I am not sure how long it would have been.
I have been searching using minaudiere and I am finding many old purses but nothing even close to mine yet
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stopwhining
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posted on May 11, 2003 03:51:47 PM new
this may be old chinese stuff,the chinese have made some enamel on metal stuff like that,coin silver or some kind of old silver??
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auctionace
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posted on May 11, 2003 03:55:54 PM new
The El Paso, TX was a hint as in one of MR's biggest hits. The first name sounds a little like flatulence. The last name is indeed bird-like.
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rarriffle
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posted on May 11, 2003 04:14:39 PM new
just brainstorming here, could this have held something like a dance card booklet? I have seen those covered in metal. just seems like it would be hard to use for coins or a key because of the way it opens.
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Roadsmith
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posted on May 11, 2003 04:41:29 PM new
Yeah, I got the reference to El Paso, auctionace! Wow--Flatulent Bird--describes this guy to a T.
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tomwiii
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posted on May 11, 2003 06:53:42 PM new
WOW! And I've ALWAYS been a GREAT FAN of Farty Dove!
I adore the cover he did of Vanilla Fudge's: "Don't Lean Against the Screendoor, GrandPa -- Ya Might STRAIN Yerself!"
Ralphie loves Mr Blonde:
"Are you gonna bark all day little doggie, or are you gonna bite?"
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clivebarkerfan
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posted on May 11, 2003 07:08:40 PM new
Tomwiii - Sorry, you're incorrect. It's Gassy Cardinal and his song was Don't Stuff My Heart Under the Covers After Eating Beans.
LOL! Sorry, I couldn't resist.
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virgo47
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posted on May 11, 2003 07:49:48 PM new
Hi,
The little purse resembles a vintage purse type called a "necessary". They were just big enough to carry things that were necessary such as coins, lipstick a hankie etc. They sometimes has little compartments in them for coins etc and had a short chain for looping over the wrist. The age, size and style would be about right, but I have never seen one that was empty of the small compartments.
Here is a link to a photo and description of an example.
http://www.rubylane.com/shops/shorelineantiques/item/649
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kiara
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posted on May 11, 2003 07:56:35 PM new
Not to be confused with this one. lol....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2827220130&category=15728
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dadofstickboy
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posted on May 11, 2003 08:03:10 PM new
back in your grandmas day they didn't carry the crap we do today. when they went dancing they carried the essentials
Yes: It looks just the right size for (pills & condums)
Good old granny!
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