posted on November 14, 2003 06:30:03 PM new
Kiara, you are so right. Antique dealing or even gaining knowledge about what is collectible, is just a vast and huge consortium of study, experience, and (I think) alot of happen-stance.
Thats why I always say what a long road I got to go. There is so much out there, and so much difference of opinion even at the so called 'professional' level. (and whats up with Big Peepa on that mantra?)
But you know, to sell things you can have an idea of what you THINK is worth something and you can be somewhat successful.
I don't think you really have to be a walking collector's genius to sell with partial success on EBAY (or even sell unsuccesfully)..lol..
posted on November 14, 2003 06:37:35 PM new
wgm-----
I agree that the person who helped me is very nice and I have seen their posts often. They (he/she) is very helpful, as they were when I asked for help. You were just saying my post was tacky. Evidently some people misunderstood what I was saying. I wasn't blaming anyone for the error, or whatever, I was just asking for help as to how to handle the buyer. I was not shooting down the person who helped me. They did it as a gracious gesture and I appreciated it.
What I'm saying to get over is that I was harsh on the person who helped. I meant no unkind words or anything else towards them. Did I make any statement that was negative or harsh? If you will read my post I didn't.
I take the full blame for what happened. Also as I said it is a tiny bump and I'm already over it and on to the next task.
I think sometimes readers read something into the post that isn't there, like the tone. I didn't, and don't, have an attitude about the problem. Life is too short to get bent out of shape over such a small incident. I have apologized to the "helpful person" and that is all I can do. I feel sure the helpful person is a big person and isn't fretting about it and neither am I.
It is extremely doubtful that I will ever ask for help on this board again, and I don't mean that in a hateful tone. I do agree that is a lot of the fun here to guess about some of the strange things others find. Why have knowledge if you can't share it and help others?
posted on November 14, 2003 06:58:41 PM new
paws, I think this is getting all blown out of proportion.
It was your buyer's responsibility to do research also. No matter how much knowledge a seller has, sooner or later there is going to be an unhappy bidder.
I didn't misinterpret your post yesterday, I just figured you weren't sure of what you had sold and wanted more opinions and I didn't see that you were blaming anyone.
I think sometimes readers read something into the post that isn't there, like the tone. Don't feel bad, some do it all the time here.
posted on November 14, 2003 07:07:47 PM new
Wow! This is dejaveu, no not you dejapooh, It is getting a little warm in here and a lot like this board was a couple of years ago. I am not an antique dealer, I do deal in vintage 50's costume jewelry and I think I know a lot. I probably own every book there is. I will help anyone that needs it
BIGPEEPA To say goodbye I won't help because you are just to knowledgeable is absurd. Nobody know everything. Wow what swelled heads we have in here. Posters that think they know to much. Most posters in here are trying to make a living and if I can give a little help I will. And oh BTW the last I looked it said the eBay Outlook not the antique board.
There seems to be grumbling in the streets. Is the moon full????
I would like to thank anyone and everyone who posts in here as it is a learning experience for me as I know nothing about antiques or much of anything else...
posted on November 14, 2003 07:14:18 PM newI vote: (I'm saying VOTE because fluffy himself said 'I vote.....') to keep all 'what is it' threads. I like them!
You just said that to ruffle her feathers didn't you.
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posted on November 14, 2003 07:45:49 PM new
I, too, enjoy the "what is it" threads and learn a lot from them. If a person doesn't want to read such threads they don't have to--and even if one does read such a thread, no one is forcing the reader to offer knowledge or advice.
And there is is this to consider--not everyone who sells on eBay does it for a living, or even to earn a large percentage of their income. Some do it to get rid of the dust-catchers that have accumulated in their house over the years. Others to make a little extra money. Others for the sheer fun of it. In other words, they are by no means experts and may have no wish to become one. And...sometimes a person who specializes in selling one thing stumbles across something outside their field and decides to see if they can get something for it and so need info. It seems silly to reinvent the wheel, so to speak, when there are others they can ask for info, who have ready access to research materials or who can point the asker in the right direction. Censorship, like charity, should begin at home; but unlike charity, it should end there --Clare Booth Luce
posted on November 14, 2003 07:47:47 PM new
Libra, right on. I agree, no one person knows everything about everything, even books and googling to no end may come up with nada. And just one person may know that certain something.
AuctionAce... um ruffle feathers? or fur? Who me??? LOL!!
her? hmmmmmmm
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posted on November 15, 2003 02:30:00 AM new
I think the problem is that so many of the items presented for opinion are of the "I randomly picked this up at a garage sale and now hope someone can tell me what it is and is it worth more than I paid?". For the most part, the answers provided by any and all have been helpful, and amazingly tactful. I don't bother replying on most of these, since the questioners (1) Don't need me to tell them it is just a piece of crap, and (2) won't change their minds (or buying habits) anyway.
Let the Antiques Roadshow Trailer Park Edition continue!
posted on November 15, 2003 07:01:30 AM new
I consider the what is it thread fun, and I believe so do most people, how many times have we read bumping this up because I would like to know myself. I know I have learned stick spatter, goofus glass, and much more. Some of the answers become quite humorous when someone post an old tool or gadget.Years on another board someone responded to a style trend of the 70's and I guess they were not right on the money, boy did this person get heat,Mostly because he/she was a new poster and how dare this person come in and volunteer information. Never read that board again found this one instead and never left.
Reenie
I don't get even....I get even better Jimmy Hoffa
posted on November 15, 2003 08:13:33 AM new
people come here for free advice,and with anything which comes free,it is not perfect and does not come with guarantee.
take it for what is worth.
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posted on November 15, 2003 09:48:21 AM new
fluffythewondercat
My question to you is ,why do you bother to
to open a thread of the MOOUCHERS???
No one is twisting your arm for your opinion.
Just let the ones that are willing to help
help another have that space..
Some folks just don't know all the areas to search in..Maybe you can post all of them....
I for one don't like beeing called a Moocher.
so If I should post again.....Please don't bother to open thread...
Their are many nice folks on this board that offer help...So you shouldn't have to bother with it........
I see you are getting your web site available to to everyone
posted on November 15, 2003 09:49:59 AM new
AuctionAce, I believe every posters right to be totally anonymous, so I won't say anymore of fluffy's gender
Besides, I think it was here somewhere (they had posted it)another poster met him, um I mean her
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posted on November 15, 2003 09:59:34 AM new
yes. I like the "What is it" threads here too. And how many times my answer would be- "I don't know, but I want it!" At the same time, a list of research sites would be a wonderful resource.
Can't there be both?
"And All Shall be Well, and All Shall be Well, and All Manner of Things Shall be Well"
posted on November 15, 2003 02:32:17 PM new
2nd thoughts: (or deep thoughts..heh), I dont think Fluffy will be able to read and not post as she says. Seems her nature is almost school marmish' in that she is compelled to correct when the wrong thing is posted! (I betcha a nickel I am right!!)
posted on November 15, 2003 02:52:13 PM new
I think there are no moderators here, save the PTB.
Even from the heights of condescension (Thank you Lady de Bourgh) I learn a lot.
Also...when having a problem with posters, there are other places to turn:
Fluffy cats do have problems...with excess hair!
J
My humble vote: this should be a friendly, honest and humorous board. If we can't laugh at you, we can laugh near you. Present company included.
Monkey time....
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All the monkeys aren't in the zoo,
Every day you meet quite a few,
So you see it's all up to you.
You can be better than you are,
You could be swingin' on a star
posted on November 15, 2003 03:52:36 PM new
All I know is that if I'm in a bar and a fight breaks out, I want Fluffy on my side and covering my back. She's smart ( yes she as there was a discussion here about cheap QVC paste or jewelry and she discussed it full as only a feline would do ) and she's ferocious and I bet she's loyal to her friends. You go Fluffy!
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posted on November 15, 2003 03:59:35 PM new
It doesn't really matter if fluffy is a male or female...straight,gay,or bi...black, white, or any other race...
The point is this board needs people like fluffy...sometimes the answer you get is a little ruff but you got help and ya got it for free.
I know I ask for help alot but if someone asks for something I can do ,like post pics ,links or I just get lucky like with the scoobie doo clue pieces I try and help...In life you can't always be right or wrong...I say take any help you can get in the right direction ,then check it yourself and makes sure it's right
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