whatnot3
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posted on May 13, 2004 12:03:42 PM new
I forgot to say in the last post that I used 70 Lbs since you said that your rate was for OS2. (70 Lbs is the minimum OS2 rate)
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classicrock000
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posted on May 13, 2004 12:07:13 PM new
<---getting out popcorn and coke...
BEER HERE...BEER HERE !!
HEY!! GET YA HOTDOG HERE !!
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koto1
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posted on May 13, 2004 12:28:59 PM new
Oh my! Could it be that the original poster miscalculated? Oh my...
"Who's tending the bar?  Sniping works up a thirst"
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bizzycrocheting
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posted on May 13, 2004 03:43:28 PM new
Fluffy -- Abuse of the language? HUH???? She did overcharge on the shipping. I didn't say ANYTHING BECAUSE IT WAS IN HER TOS AND I AGREED TO IT BY BIDDING ON HER ITEM. But does that make it right? Who is abusing language now???? 
TFS -- It was for a pair of lovely earrings for my mom for Mother's Day. And, yes, they are very nice. That's why I said ok to the overcharge in shipping. But even if they weren't, I still wouldn't say anything about the shipping because it was clearly stated in the TOS.
But, in my opinion, I don't feel that one needs to start an auction off low and then gouge on the shipping. Simply raise the price of the item or don't sell on E-bay! 
[ edited by bizzycrocheting on May 13, 2004 03:49 PM ]
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bizzycrocheting
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posted on May 13, 2004 03:46:50 PM new
classic -- Here you go!
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bizzycrocheting
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posted on May 13, 2004 03:52:17 PM new
myoldtoy -- I think there are ebayers out there to make extra $$$ overcharging on shipping. I think you got bamboozled! And I also think that the way the seller treated you is so unprofessional! 
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on May 13, 2004 04:01:13 PM new
bizzy: You've made my point perfectly.
1) You buy a widget. Seller states in auction s/h will be $5. Item arrives with 37 cents postage affixed. Have you been overcharged? And if so, how?
2) You buy a widget. Seller states in auction s/h will be $5. Item arrives with $5 postage affixed but $1.50 additional postage due. Have you been overcharged? And if so, how?
I maintain that in only one of the two scenarios above have you been overcharged.
C'mon, kids, let's all play.
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TnErnie
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posted on May 13, 2004 04:06:55 PM new
When I find an item I like, I look at the overall cost: item price + shipping/handling
If it's a good deal, I bid.
If it's not, I don't.
Personally, I don't care which is cheaper...the item or the shipping. I just want the best overall price.
HOWEVER, I have never and will never bid on an auction where the shipping costs are not stated (or a shipping calculator provided) without emailing the seller first for a quote.
I tend to be a tad distrustful of those type auctions. 
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bizzycrocheting
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posted on May 13, 2004 04:07:54 PM new
Fluffy ... You have been overcharged by the first scenario and are a total fool if you think I'm going go pay the extra on the second scenario. On the second scenario, it is called "sucking it up". On the first it is called "trying to make a living off of ebay through shipping fees".
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TnErnie
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posted on May 13, 2004 04:12:09 PM new
OTOH...I do get very irate when I pay $7.85 for shipping and receive the TOY ACTION FIGURE two weeks later packaged in an 'inside out' Priority Mail box, wrapped in brown paper and sent via Media Mail for $2.30. 
Even in this instance though, it's not the price that ticks me off...it's the method of shipping.
Edited to add:
The OVERALL price was still good!
[ edited by TnErnie on May 13, 2004 04:13 PM ]
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on May 13, 2004 04:21:06 PM new
On the first it is called "trying to make a living off of ebay through shipping fees".
Thank you for clearing that up. Now that I understand your naive little-girl notions, I can safely ignore you.
Fortunately I run into relatively few bidders of your type. Almost all of my bidders can read and understand the terms of the auction.
Even though eBay is less than 10 years old, mail-order catalogues have been around for over a century. I've browsed many a catalogue and have yet to find one that charges s/h in the amount it actually costs them. Recouping overhead in the form of a handling charge is thus a very old and well-accepted practice. To barf up a hairball because people selling on eBay utilize this practice means you're going to be spending a lot of time indignant. Your choice.
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glassgrl
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posted on May 13, 2004 04:30:06 PM new
my old...I certainly don't bash you for starting the thread. It's one I need to be reminded with every now and then. I too forget to ask or assume that people are reasonable, only to be "surprised" after the auction is over.
One. A very! small softside suitcase. Seller wanted something like $35.00 to ship it? Ouch! Finally got him down to something like $15.00. Turned out that he was using a pack and ship dealy bob thing and they threw it in a box, no wrapping, no padding, just box it, tape it and send it out. He definately overpaid for that service IMHO!
Two. A cashmere wrap. From Istanbul Turkey. Seller UP FRONT on the auction says $10.00 airmail, $18.00 XPS (something like our FedEx). Ok, so I bid, only after the auction ends, seller says $18.00 shipping please. I say hold on, what happened to the $10.00 airmail? They say, oh so much theft at PO and we prefer to send XPS. After all was said and done I said to heck with it and coughed up the $18.00 shipping. If we had sent it in the states it would of been $3.85 priority mail, but oh well.
So yes. I think we all need to be reminded from time to time of the reality of shopping Ebay. Ask. Ask. And I can never remember to do so
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bizzycrocheting
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posted on May 13, 2004 04:32:49 PM new
OMG ... Fluffy ... And I expected an INTELLIGENT response!!! Sheesh!!! Ummm ... Honey, first of all, overhead expenses???? Most ebayers are selling from THEIR HOMES!!! As for "little girl notions", you obviously need to have your reading specs cleaned because you can't seem to read my posts clearly. Tell you what! When you go back and re-read my ORIGINAL response, then you may respond to any of my posts on this thread. In the meantime ... Ummmm ... Perhaps you've had a bit too much two buck chuck .. Or should I say Cristal?
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on May 13, 2004 04:44:38 PM new
At the end of this thread, when you've been roundly excoriated as the naif you are determined to remain, will you be claiming (again) you've mixed alcohol with your prescription medication?
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glassgrl
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posted on May 13, 2004 04:49:45 PM new
MEOW!
Biz, you're trying to reason with "I never combine shipment" Fluffy? Even the guys at the PO taught me how to tape the darned packages together to save on shipping cost!
Fluffy (and how can we take a posting name like Fluffy seriously? That's like those cheerleader names, buffy, bambi, bimbie....) you DO keep things interesting over here.
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on May 13, 2004 04:54:17 PM new
Thank you, ma'am.
Pointing out inconsistencies is getting to be a full time job... Luckily I did get about 50 auctions listed today.
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bizzycrocheting
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posted on May 13, 2004 04:59:12 PM new
OMG, Fluffy, you really did need to pull out that ole dictionary to TOUCHE me, huh?
Get real. You KNOW you're wrong, so you're pulling out past indifferences to make your point. For shame, fluffy! Or perhaps you're choking on a furball again??? I think so!!!
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bizzycrocheting
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posted on May 13, 2004 05:00:45 PM new
Ummmm ... Fluffy ... Inconsistencies? Oops... That's right! You expect US to believe YOUR inconsistencies!
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bizzycrocheting
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posted on May 13, 2004 05:06:37 PM new
Oops.... My mistake!!! Fluffy doesn't have inconsistencies because she is totally stagnant in her beliefs!
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glassgrl
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posted on May 13, 2004 05:13:11 PM new
MEOW! although if you haven't been flamed by Fluffie you haven't been properly flamed.
Although..now that I think about it...Biz sometimes sounds like SalGal posting....
Biz, have another 2 buck chuck with that antidepressant and it will ALL look better in the morning.
BACK TO THE SUBJECT AT HAND - MyOld had a legitimate post to begin with. That was WAY too much unless they are using somebody else to pack and ship their items.
[ edited by glassgrl on May 13, 2004 05:16 PM ]
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aintrichyet
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posted on May 13, 2004 05:17:28 PM new
bizzy needs her antidote ... perhaps a spot of tea? or two?
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TnErnie
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posted on May 13, 2004 05:27:32 PM new
Honey, first of all, overhead expenses???? Most ebayers are selling from THEIR HOMES!!!
I sell from my home and YES I have overhead expenses. It costs money to power up my computer every morning and turn on the lights in my home office. I have to pay a telephone bill nearly three times over the base rate because I have DSL internet service and five email accounts. I have to spend money to purchase packing supplies, pay eBay/PayPal fees, buy postage, and make trips to the Post Office. Not mention all the other 'little' insignificant expenses like hosting services, etc.
Please don't even try to say that eBay sellers don't have overhead expenses just because they work at home!
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whatnot3
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posted on May 13, 2004 05:32:31 PM new
It is very likely (as I showed in an earlier reply) that they are really getting quoted that much.
It doesn't do any good to tell them it is too much but why not instead try getting them to do it a different way.
I had a similar thing happen a couple years ago where they said actual shipping. I finally ended up asking them how much they would need to use a Fedex prepaid label and drop it off. They said $6. I paid and emailed the label and everything went fine.
Another option is using a call tag. It costs $7 extra over your normal UPS rate.
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bizzycrocheting
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posted on May 13, 2004 05:32:43 PM new
TN -- There are expenses associated with any business one is involved in. The household expenses may be slightly higher if you are running a business from it. Thus the reason why the IRS allows you to deduct a portion of your household expenses when you run an at-home business. However, you DO get that deduction. So WHY tack it into the postage on an item? There is NO REASON to overcharge postage if you are running your business correctly. I stand by my post.
But, of course, I guess in Fluffy's case, you must tack on additional $$$ to actually earn a living!
[ edited by bizzycrocheting on May 13, 2004 05:42 PM ]
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bizzycrocheting
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posted on May 13, 2004 05:38:45 PM new
glass -- Personally, I don't need to be "flamed" by anybody -- least of all A CAT!!! Fluffy needs to go back to coughing up furrballs. That is what she seems to do best.
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stopwhining
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posted on May 13, 2004 06:04:58 PM new
it is always sound business to recognise all your expenses-direct or indirect,fixed or variable.
you can net your tax benefits against the fixed expenses of using a room,utilities and insurance.
just remember,your home office has to be used strictly for business,and it should be a place where you earn your living.
In case of doctors who treat patients in hospital or clinic,they cannot deduct their extra bedroom as office as this is not a place where they earn their living.
Howver an acupunturist or a shrink may do so if this is the place where they treat patients.
-sig file -------we eat to live,not live to eat.
Benjamin Franklin
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Roadsmith
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posted on May 13, 2004 06:05:11 PM new
I have a question for the guys here. On Friends, Joey and Chandler just love watching the girls wrestle and fight. Is it the same thrill watching girls doing it here?
NO ONE is going to win, ladies. Reminds me of Jules Steinberg's cartoons, where he shows people talking to each other in large balloons that get in the way of transmission.
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TnErnie
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posted on May 13, 2004 06:08:03 PM new
TN -- There are expenses associated with any business one is involved in. .... So WHY tack it into the postage on an item? There is NO REASON to overcharge postage if you are running your business correctly.
Bizzy ~ Every basic general business course will teach you to total all your expenses, average them out and tack them on somewhere (The IRS deduction is so minuscule, it's irrelevant). Whether it be figured into the product cost or the shipping/handling, it HAS to be tacked on to run your business correctly.
[i]It is very likely (as I showed in an earlier reply) that they are really getting quoted that much.
It doesn't do any good to tell them it is too much but why not instead try getting them to do it a different way.[/i]
MyOldToy ~ I agree with whatnot3 on this. The seller probably has been quoted that high of a price and is most likely getting huffy in her emails because she feels like you're calling her a liar...which tends to upset all of us. What does her feedback look like? Have there been complaints of excess postage/shipping previously?
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whatnot3
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posted on May 13, 2004 06:08:05 PM new
You can probably get a deduction on shipping costs too so you should give everyone free shipping
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TnErnie
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posted on May 13, 2004 06:11:45 PM new
LOL whatnot!
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