posted on August 30, 2004 11:59:23 AM new
KEVIN,
if a bidder looks at a blurry picture taken from distance and still want to bid on it,it is his own choice.
Add to the blurry picture taken from a distance with seller saying 'as is' and the bidder still wants to bid,that's his choice.
No one holds a gun behind his head and force him to bid.
-sig file -------we eat to live,not live to eat.
Benjamin Franklin
posted on August 30, 2004 12:10:53 PM new
this is the description the seller has provided-----------
I just found a large collection of vintage boxed models from the 30's 40's 50's and 60's.I will be listing these over the next few weeks so please keep checking my auctions for some nice boxed models from Aurora,Revell,Monogram,the lindberg line,ITC Model Craft and others.I will also be listing more slot cars,M.A.S.K. toys Hotwheels redlines,Matchbox Lesneys and lots of great vintage toys.I will be glad to combine and save you some shipping charges.I sell used toys as as so look at pictures to see what is included.This auction is for a boxed kit,Started but never completed.It looks complete and is in a real nice box.Personal checks must clear.Money orders and Paypal for instant shipping.$5.90 shipping to cover size and weight of this item. ////////
The only condition he is describing is that it is a real nice box.
What gives is 'started but never completed'-
-sig file -------we eat to live,not live to eat.
Benjamin Franklin
posted on August 30, 2004 12:21:30 PM new
It's pretty obvious this seller knew and this was "active" omission.
SW forgets, or overlooks the fact, that people do sometimes take a risk on an auction in the event that the item will be as described!
LOL
OTOH, I have a couple ebay items that were poorly described and they turned out to be nifty things. The seller of my vintage Passier didn't put the saddle code on their auction. Happy dance when I realized it was a coveted hard seat wood frame and in excellent shape.
BUT, this fellow wasn't spamming his auctions with names of other things.
It is a flea market, and I can only say DrJack...learn to wait. Things come around again and again. Hopefully the right compliment of condition, price, description, photos and seller.
Anyhoo....
posted on August 30, 2004 03:09:46 PM new
stopwining
Hey, send me $36, I will send you a card worth a good day. It was worth it to me.
I understand your point about ebay being a flea market, and that is what it is. But don't you think most of us are honest?
I guess it boils down to what you wish to accomplish on ebay. If you beleive that ebay is nothing but a place full of carny tricks, it will eventually crush itself of it's own weight. Then who you going to sell to? Crooked buyers?
You seem to want to cut off your nose to spite your face. Long realize that I could care less about the $36. If he had just owned up to it, he would not have to send me a penny. I want piece of crap dealers like him off of ebay.
I will neg him, take the bad retaliation feedback, give him a follow up bad feedback too. I will try through ebay and paypal and my credit card to get my money back. I want people who buy kits know that drjackk is upset with someone, there is plenty good reason. The single neg I gave on an experienced seller cost guy a lot of blocked purchases. I did up a buyer real nice to, who neged me for shipping overcharging, even after I gave him 40% off shipping, and sent a free $7.00 set of decals. He thought $10 for four model kits shipping was too much (3#, 5 states away)??!!??!!. I simply wrote "write me for email transactions [email protected]". got 32 emails, mostly from other big sellers. This guy got blocked from a lot of sellers. He got pissed off about a month or two later and wrote me and told me so! he he he. I simply replied with an emotioncon of a happy face crying. Not another word, letter or statement! he he he. He also got nailed (blocked) by other sellers reading my ads. I thought I might get in trouble for it, but I used only his bidder name. Go read any of my current auctions at the very bottom of descriptions. It cost him plenty.
posted on August 30, 2004 03:17:12 PM new
Thank you all for responding. I got a real mixed bag of responses. I seem to see things in the majority opinion, but also see other people believe other ways.
It was a real eye opener. As usual! I found out I was not alone in my thinking. Thanks again for all your responses, it really helps.
posted on August 30, 2004 04:36:25 PM new
don,
hindsight is 20/20,he described the box as a nice box and he described the content as started but not completed.
why would someone start the assembly and not complete it??and what condition would that be??
Then he told you he paid 30 for it and sold it to you for 36,it is a breakeven,he did not make any money .
You come to this board to voice your dissatisfaction and you get plenty of sympathy and some suggestions on what to do.Some of us are playing devil advocate and try to show you what ebay is like.
dont take it personal,you cant expect everyone on this board to agree with you 100%.
This is a great board,it is better than going to see a shrink and it is free!
-sig file -------we eat to live,not live to eat.
Benjamin Franklin
posted on August 30, 2004 05:33:10 PM new
before leaving the neg, I would let him know your intentions of doing so. Tell him you don't want to be that way, but at the same time he was misleading and sold you something that you believe was misrepresented in good faith. if he whines or treatens you back, leave the neg and chalk it up to lesson learned. make sure that the feedback you leave states exactly what happened. perhaps something like, "Bidders Beware- Seller doesn't give accurate or complete information regarding problems."
I am sure that is longer than what ebay allows, but get it close to that so that others know to inquire before bidding and don't make the same mistake as you did by not asking questions.
I've been burned all too many times by not asking the right questions. I've made it a point to read every auction I bid on several times and now I use a checklist to make sure I remember everything. Since creating the checklist, I have come out on top almost every single time. I bought a brand new $150 chef's knife for only 50 bucks because a seller didn't give enough info in their description and I emailed them with my list of questions. It is too bad that the seller doesn't furnish enough information and you got burned in the end. I know the feeling all too well.
[ edited by shagmidmod on Aug 30, 2004 05:48 PM ]
posted on August 30, 2004 07:56:11 PM new
Stop whining
That is exactly how I took the answers. I just wanted to make sure I was looking at it the right way. Checked to make sure I was not thinking unfairly or something.
Actually, I pity the poor bastard. How sad he must be off to do such a thing. I feel so bad now I want to send him another $36 so he wont steal from some poor old woman. NOT
Thanks again
Don PS I sent him a final letter telling him that in 36 hours, exactly what I would do. He sent back a sarcastic letter. I thanked him for it and said "I asked you what Jesus would do" and that did not work. Now I told him I had to ask myself what a son of a #*!@ would do, be myself and do it.
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