carolinetyler
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posted on August 24, 2008 03:43:10 PM new
I hope no-one takes this the wrong way - but some tag lines/signature lines may be taken the wrong way by others. I know I stopped posting on here for a while because there was one politically oriented tag line that really bugged me and I found it offensive.
I guess everyone has their quirks about what bothers them - but anything controversial, political, etc., even in a tag line, belongs in the round table discussion in my opinion.
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 Caroline
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rhpepsi
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posted on August 24, 2008 04:09:29 PM new
I agree...
I had a long talk with my two smurf friends about your BLUE smiley faces...they are okay with them. Thought they were their cousins at first.
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carolinetyler
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posted on August 24, 2008 04:24:05 PM new
Thank goodness! There's nothing worse than a psst off Smurf!
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Caroline
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capolady
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posted on August 24, 2008 07:26:25 PM new
I never really paid that much attention to taglines. I guess no one has really pushed my buttons or if they did I just passed it off and moved on. I'm not very sensitive to what people say as I've been in the auto service business and medical field for most of my life and my sense of being offended by someone's words is pretty thick. Maybe I'll pay more attention and see if anyone can really p**s me off.
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profe51
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posted on August 24, 2008 07:29:31 PM new
Auto service and medical. Those are allied fields, right?
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cblev65252
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posted on August 25, 2008 05:43:54 AM new
I don't take offense either. They're just words. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and to silence one is to silence all. Do you really want to go there?
Cheryl
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carolinetyler
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posted on August 25, 2008 07:20:09 AM new
Nobody's trying to silence anyone - the Soviet Gulag tag line was offensive to some, including me - it was not meant to be, I'm sure - but I was simply asking for a little sensitivity and courtesy.
I was not asking for censorship as you are hinting that I was. Let's not go that route with the anti-censorship quotes. That's not where I was going with this and most realize that.
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Caroline
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shagmidmod
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posted on August 25, 2008 07:51:36 AM new
It takes two to tango...
1) the person who said or wrote something.
2) one person who finds it offensive.
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davidsmom
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posted on August 25, 2008 12:04:05 PM new
In this case I am sure there are many more than one that find "Soviet Gulag tag line" offensive. Add me to the tango!
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deur1
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posted on August 25, 2008 12:34:23 PM new
WHAT? Opinions expressed on a forum do not dictate or offend my thinking.
It is a forum, some feel this way, others feel that way.... take it in stride.
Take a deep breath and move to next topic.
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on August 25, 2008 03:24:36 PM new
I was simply asking for a little sensitivity and courtesy.
No, you're asking for people to censor themselves in order to avoid bruising your delicate sensibilities -- whatever those might be. Since we don't know you, your request is both hilarious and preposterous.
I stopped posting on here for a while because there was one politically oriented tag line that really bugged me and I found it offensive.
Your judgment, your opinion. Please be so kind as to allow others to exercise their own judgments.
The softly-spoken "please don't say something that may be taken the wrong way by others" is the variety of controlling behavior I despise most. The speaker is pretending to be sweetly reasonable but in reality is anything but.
davidsmom: You've repeatedly told us how offended you are by this or that, yet you're still here. One wonders why.
fLufF
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It looked like she had that dreaded neurological disorder that lets you browse and bid on eBay all day long but won't let you push the "Pay" button.
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carolinetyler
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posted on August 25, 2008 03:56:41 PM new
I guess courtesy is something you just can't handle. I have far from delicate sensibilities, I was making a request - not trying to censor anyone - there was absolutely no reason for you to go in to attack mode.
What do you do, just troll around forums looking for someone to take your frustrations out on? Your nastiness was uncalled for. I respect your opinion and experience - but darned if I'm going to be your whipping girl because you haven't found any good reason to rip in to anyone lately.
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Caroline
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hwahwa
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posted on August 25, 2008 04:26:59 PM new
If you click on the username,there is an option to ignore all messages posted by that person.
It is rare but this one I have to agree with Fluffy.
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EBAY has 13,000 rules.
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davidsmom
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posted on August 25, 2008 04:29:11 PM new
Ditto Caroline and as for Fluff, I will keep you in a state of wonders!
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carolinetyler
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posted on August 25, 2008 04:42:10 PM new
If you put someone on ignore, do their posts just not show up when you're reading a thread? What if they start a thread, do you just not see it?
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Caroline
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profe51
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posted on August 25, 2008 04:57:51 PM new
Every time someone you have on ignore posts, they'll receive a message telling them that they are being ignored by you because you think they are an effing moron and you despise their offensive sig.
Go for it.
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capolady
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posted on August 25, 2008 06:20:54 PM new
Certain taglines may offend some and others may find the line extremely funny.There is no way to keep everyone happy.
Suggestion: Read the context of the post and then scan down really really fast so you won'tsee anything but a blur and no one will be offended.
I know that sounds silly but no more ridiculous than someome being so sensitive that they feel the need to complain because people choose to express themselves in ways that do no more harm than upset your sensibilities. I know you will find this post as "mean" and if you do so be it.
This is a tough world and ebay is even tougher than normal. If simple taglines upset you I would hate to see your reaction to some of the vicious buyers I have encountered.
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vintageads4u
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posted on August 25, 2008 06:26:54 PM new
i'm offended...why don't you like my tagline?
Beth
Antique Ad Shop
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cblev65252
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posted on August 25, 2008 06:45:44 PM new
LOL, prof!
Cheryl
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hwahwa
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posted on August 25, 2008 07:21:44 PM new
<B>This is a tough world and ebay is even tougher than normal. If simple taglines upset you I would hate to see your reaction to some of the vicious buyers I have encountered.
Well said !
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Gulag-a Soviet era concentration camp is now reincarnated as EBAY with 13,000 rules.
Feel free to substitute Gulag with your own favorite experience-building the Great Wall,Giza Pyramid etc.
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cashinyourcloset
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posted on August 25, 2008 08:05:12 PM new
hwahwa,
I don't find your tag line particularly offensive, I just find your power of analogy to be off.
I am no more a fan of eBay's rules than anyone else, however, we do live in a world where, if you can't stand the rules, do something else where you are more comfortable. I'm not a historian, but I don't believe that was an option for the residents of the Gulag.
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deichen
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posted on August 25, 2008 08:18:59 PM new
I have always felt that anyone had a right to post here and certainly not be attacked for doing so, the tagline does not bother me and seems to be within their right to do so.
[ edited by deichen on Aug 26, 2008 06:06 AM ]
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eauctionmgnt
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posted on August 25, 2008 11:04:30 PM new
Look everyone... since i guess I'm the one who started all this... let's make sure everyone knows HOW it all started. This was my original post:
hwahwa,
Just a quick favor... would you mind changing your tagline? I know what you're trying to go for... but I really think it's kind of offensive to say that eBay is like a Gulag. eBay is tops on my hate list right now... but even so, I don't think that it is right to compare it to something as truly evil as a Gulag. And I would think that anyone that was in a Gulag would say that we could have much worse things to worry about than where to sell our merchandise. Thanks in advance.
I posted this in a thread that I hijacked from caroline (which is why I'm sure she started a new thread). As you can tell... there was no attempt at censorship... just a suggestion, and politely asked no less, to change what really is not the best analogy.
I just think all of us could benefit from actually thinking about the implications of our words. Hwahwa... I appreciated you making the changes, and am rather disappointed that you changed it back, but I suppose that's your choice. Personally I wouldn't want to advertise my ignorance of history by utilizing such a poor analogy in every one of my posts. Nor do I think it's a particularly witty tagline to begin with. Heck... if you're looking for an institution with a bunch of rules to compare eBay with try:
eBay: The only company with more regulations than the IRS
When you compare that to yours of:
Gulag-a Soviet era concentration camp is now reincarnated as EBAY with 13,000 rules.
You realize that it just plain makes more sense! First of all a Gulag certainly had rules... but there weren't 13,000 and they were much probably much simpler to understand than eBay rules (basically labor hard, or reap the punishments of no food, beatings or get killed) Secondly, your random number of 13,000 has no factual basis and just weakens your statement. Finally it is just tasteless to try and make the comparison that eBay is as evil as a system that resulted in the arrests, interrogations, transport (in unheated rail road cattle cars), forced labor, familial separation, exile, and early death of almost 20 million people.
Honestly people... just think about what you're writing before you post it.
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pixiamom
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posted on August 25, 2008 11:27:22 PM new
I don't believe in censorship of taglines, but I assume they disclose a major point of focus of the poster. The gulag reference seemed incongruous and it probably affected the attention I gave your posts, Hwahwa. Humorous taglines are a different matter - I still miss Irked's: "I married my wife for her looks, but not for the ones she's given me lately".
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eauctionmgnt
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posted on August 26, 2008 12:12:50 AM new
fluffy,
You seem to be anti-censorship.... so your entire last post makes little sense. If an individual has the right to post a tagline of their choosing... I have an equal right to be able to question, doubt and challenge the validity of that posting. And unlike some, I can use intelligent discussion to illustrate my points rather than resulting to vulgar insults.
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pmelcher
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posted on August 26, 2008 05:44:01 AM new
To Fluffy
Honestly people... just think about what you're writing before you post it.
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cblev65252
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posted on August 26, 2008 06:14:26 AM new
Geeze - I don't believe I'm saying this, but Fluffy has a point. Having said that. . .
Hwahwa was not trying to make a historically accurate analogy, I'm sure. Even though it is not historically accurate, it looks like there are some who'd rather sweep history under the rug. Shhh, if we never mention the word Gulag, it never was. . . .
Just one more thing, if someone's tag line offends you, why not email that person? Why make it the subject of an entire post? I'm sure everyone knew to whom you were referring. Kind of stinks, IMHO, to do that publicly to someone.
Carry on.
Cheryl
Whitman said she and McCain share a philosophy of scaling back the role of government. a point of view partly shaped by her EBay experience. "The EBay model is very Republican in its essence -- it's about making a small number of rules and getting out of the way while not overtaxing the community," she said.
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eauctionmgnt
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posted on August 26, 2008 06:21:45 AM new
Cheryl,
I would have preferred to contact hwahwa one-on-one via email... but didn't see a way to do that. I was certainly not trying to make a big deal about this (hence my original short post). Also, I'm not trying to sweep history under the rug... rather... I just would like to see it reported accurately. I think it's great to discuss things like the Gulags, Stalags and other concentration camps in a historically accurate manner so that our societies can hopefully avoid repeating the same mistakes.
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http://www.vintagepaperads.com
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cblev65252
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posted on August 26, 2008 06:36:27 AM new
so that our societies can hopefully avoid repeating the same mistakes.
Amen, to that! However, I think we may have already repeated it. Only now secrets are better kept.
Cheryl
Whitman said she and McCain share a philosophy of scaling back the role of government. a point of view partly shaped by her EBay experience. "The EBay model is very Republican in its essence -- it's about making a small number of rules and getting out of the way while not overtaxing the community," she said.
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neglus
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posted on August 26, 2008 08:32:32 AM new
Speaking of taglines:
Cheryl I got a kick out of yours! I guess one can infer that Donahue et al are Democrats then? (according to Meg's definition)?
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