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 Borillar
 
posted on May 22, 2001 11:59:54 PM new
http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/asiapcf/central/05/22/afghanistan.hindu.03/index.html

KANDAHAR, Afghanistan -- The ruling Taleban leadership in Afghanistan announced plans on Tuesday to force Hindus to wear identity labels on their clothing to differentiate them from Muslims.

O-o-O-o-O-o-h! Doesn't the thought of a religious government make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside? Sure it does! Makes lots of people in America wish our government was run by religious leaders who would mandate by decree God's Will directly from the Holy Bible.

F-u-u-z-z-Y!

The Taleban, after last month's atrocity on historical relics not of their own religion, now is forcing Hindu women to wear the Burka - an extremist face covering with a shawl in front to block the view of onlookers. Moreover, with the armbands, we'll soon see Hindus being rounded up and put into ghettos -- just before the Final Solution!

You say you want to turn America into a God-fearing nation with God's Laws? Watch this tragedy unfold in the coming year and then listen to those who are trying to turn this nation into a theocracy.






 
 mtnmama
 
posted on May 23, 2001 04:16:15 AM new
If you recall Hitler did the same thing.

That's what the American people want to relive? Shows the morality in the nation today.

 
 reamond
 
posted on May 23, 2001 05:54:09 AM new
That's why I cringe whenever I hear the US is a "christian" nation. The Nazis were "christian" too.

 
 mtnmama
 
posted on May 23, 2001 06:35:07 AM new
Very scary isn't it? The so-called Christian Coalition wants to run this country. They have a lot of members already in place in government, many own franchizes in the food industry. Give up your guns (your rights to personal protection). Wear armbands telling everyone what religion you are. Sit and wait for them to come get you and haul you off like cattle to the concentration camps that they will call "resorts."

Be prepared, because history repeats itself if not remembered and stopped.

 
 gravid
 
posted on May 23, 2001 07:47:12 AM new
[ edited by gravid on May 23, 2001 11:40 AM ]
 
 krs
 
posted on May 23, 2001 07:55:40 AM new
You have nothing to worry about, gravid, until they require the registration of aluminum pyramid hats.

 
 gravid
 
posted on May 23, 2001 08:41:56 AM new
show me one krs - I'll start selling them on eBay - " Banned Foil Hats L@@K!!! "

 
 codasaurus
 
posted on May 23, 2001 08:44:08 AM new
I would like to think that some prominent Afghani Muslim would take a page from the King of Denmark during WW II. When the German occupiers decreed that Jews would have to wear the Star of David so that they could be "identified", the King promptly appeared in public with a Star of David on his clothing.

 
 mtnmama
 
posted on May 23, 2001 11:56:25 AM new
Ohhh, I must have missed a great remark from
gravid.

Codasaurus, naturally you know that would never happen. However, it wasn't only the Jews that Hitler wanted, it was millions of Christians as well. If you weren't "arian," you didn't belong.

Personally I see us headed that way again. There is a huge Neo-nazi movement in Germany and one here. If they're not controlled, even the most devout non-Jews will be hung out to dry. If you aren't friends with the Coalition, you are nothing.

 
 gravid
 
posted on May 23, 2001 12:09:14 PM new
Well it is probably better retracted, if it upset krs it will others also.

 
 Shoshanah
 
posted on May 23, 2001 12:42:56 PM new
Here I am! THE pack-rat, par excellence...and I did NOT even save my Star of David!....
What is one to do! Oh! No fear: bushytail will propably get new ones made up.
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 gravid
 
posted on May 23, 2001 03:30:37 PM new
And pink triangles for gays and purple triangles for Jehovah's Witnesses. I can't remember what a gypsy had to wear....

 
 reamond
 
posted on May 23, 2001 04:57:02 PM new
We just had 2 German students stay with us for awhile, and the neo-nazi movement is far more advanced than I thought it was in Europe. The violence is escalating against minorties and the movement is quite organized.

I think a worldwide economic downturn will cause it to worsen.



 
 gravid
 
posted on May 23, 2001 05:32:26 PM new
That's for sure what gave Hitler his foot in the door - bad economic times.

 
 Shoshanah
 
posted on May 24, 2001 10:29:07 AM new
reamond...Unfortunately, you are correct The ashes of our People were still luke-warm and the Nazi Party was already resurrecting itself...It never went away, really...And it was and still is spread world-wide. As early as 1956, I was evicted from a flat in London, because of my backgroung. Then again, in France, my OWN COUNTRY OF BIRTH, in 1958.

Germany resents having to share with the "other" Germany...the one from behind the former Berlin Wall...They also resent the Turkish migrant workers, and let them live in total squallor, while using these people for the most demeaning labour...Basically what America was doing with our own migrant Hispanic workers....

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 ZeroKnowledge
 
posted on May 24, 2001 10:29:51 AM new
"You say you want to turn America into a God-fearing nation with God's Laws" (borrillar)

Or was that Allah?

"...who would mandate by decree God's Will directly from the Holy Bible "(borrilar)

Or was that The Quran?

"The so-called Christian Coalition wants to run this country. They have a lot of members already in place in government, many own franchizes in the food industry. Give up your guns (your rights to personal protection)". (mtnmama)

No offense, but are you sure that it is the Christian Coalition that wants to disarm the citizenry? I always thought that was the Democrats.

"That's what the American people want to relive?" (mtnmama)

I thought he said that was in Afghanistan? Did I miss something here?

"The Nazis were "christian" too."(reamond)

Incorrect.

What's going on in Afghanistan is terrible, and something needs to be done to stop it from its imminent escalation, but drawing false comparisons will only help to misdirect the proper focus on the real issue at hand.


 
 mtnmama
 
posted on May 24, 2001 10:57:36 AM new
Someone can quote really well, except it's the Koran, not Quran.

However, I don't see the point.

ID of ZeroKnowledge seems to fit.

 
 Borillar
 
posted on May 24, 2001 11:16:47 AM new
It's an amazement to me that the very same people who want a theocracy in America as opposed to a democracy, never read the books put out by their leaders; such as, Pat Robertson and Jerry Fallwell and the rest of those ilk. Having read a few of them myself, I was astonished to see what a bunch of moronic, egomaniacs they were. For instance: they want to bring back the biblical punishment of stoning -- all against "Cruel and Unusual Punishment" clause of the US Constitution. They also have plans for Jews and other "non-Christians" as well. If only their rabid followers would only bother to READ those books put out by the leaders of their movement, many of them would turn against them. It reminds me about how the Tobacco Companies benefit from label warnings: the warning was there for you to read it or not -- that was your choice! Let us not miss the chance to read up on these Christian Coalition leaders "Mein Kamfph" books and so be forewarned!




 
 Borillar
 
posted on May 24, 2001 11:24:58 AM new
Dear ZeroKnowlege:

When you stated ""The Nazis were "christian" too."(reamond) Incorrect.", you are missing out on information that is not widely promoted about the hideous, monstrous Hitler regime. Hitler did make it a big "Christian" thing out of it, pushing "Aryan morality". Yes, the German people were sure that they were being very Christian when their leaders went behind their backs and used The Final Solution on unwanted "people". Do not be so quick to discount the governments to promote mass murders by the power of Christianity! It's happened many, many times in history and it won't be a bit of difference here in America should we ever become a theocracy.



 
 mtnmama
 
posted on May 24, 2001 11:31:32 AM new
What's going on in Afghanistan is terrible, and something needs to be done to stop it from its imminent escalation, but drawing false comparisons will only help to misdirect the proper focus on the real issue at hand.

Exactly what the America and the British did all those years Hitler was in power. Ignore it and maybe it'll go away.

It's folks with this type of mentality who are running this country and will continue to run it, both democrats and republicans!


edited because UBB just ain't workin'!


[ edited by mtnmama on May 24, 2001 11:32 AM ]
 
 krs
 
posted on May 24, 2001 11:32:31 AM new
Bush IS doing something about the situation in Taliban--He's FUNDING it with a brand spanking new $48,000,000 gift!!

In the name of supporting the "Drug War" activities in that place, Mr Presidential Hypocrite has given them money to use as they wish.

You might say that the good ol' US of A is buying all of the labels for non-believers in Taliban. Probably setting up a contract to buy the things from China.

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/iprs/20010523/cm/bush_s_faustian_deal_with_the_taliban_1.html

 
 Borillar
 
posted on May 24, 2001 11:36:26 AM new
mtnmama: "... except it's the Koran, not Quran."

Actually, so that everyone should know, it is either "Koran" or "Qurom" or "Quran", because it is an Arabic word that does not have a formal anglo-saxon translation and spelling. The exact pronunciation is difficult for anyone who is not born with its useage.

However, most times in print, you will see the "Koran" spelling, although the beginning, that 'Kcch' sound is softer than a straight 'K' should be and it is hard to render it properly into anglo-saxon english.


[ edited by Borillar on May 24, 2001 11:39 AM ]
 
 NearTheSea
 
posted on May 24, 2001 11:43:56 AM new
Borillar, is there any source or link I can look up to see where Pat Robertson wants to 'bring back stoning'? Jerry Falwell, well is a different story.... ack




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 Borillar
 
posted on May 24, 2001 11:52:33 AM new
Why, certainly, NearTheSea!

http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/2437/fundies.htm

Edited to add this quote:

In the book, Robertson cites as "authorities" Nesta Webster, an early 20th century anti-Semite who wrote Secret Societies and Subversive Movements. Robertson also lists as a resource Secrets of the Federal Reserve, by Eustace Mullins. Mullins, an anti-Semite and racist who argued that the Jews were using the Federal Reserve to control the country, was also the author of Proof of Negro Inferiority and The Hitler We Loved and Why.


[ edited by Borillar on May 24, 2001 12:06 PM ]
 
 mtnmama
 
posted on May 24, 2001 12:18:56 PM new
Sorry borillar, I've seen it spelled Quran once before but the person was corrected by someone of that faith! Oh well.


 
 Shoshanah
 
posted on May 24, 2001 12:45:51 PM new
You are a good sport, mtnmama

Actually, all spellings are acceptable, whenever any word originates from a non-standard Roman alphabet...Arabic, Hebrew, Hindu and Asian languages....So, anything goes.... You can even write "Oy Vey" or "Oy Vay"....same thing, since Yiddish is written in Hebrew alphabet....
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[ edited by Shoshanah on May 24, 2001 12:47 PM ]
 
 gravid
 
posted on May 24, 2001 01:36:49 PM new
ZeroKnowledge - Good name. The Church would love you to believe that they had nothing to do with the Nazi Party - they have certainly worked hard to revise history to try to make those few Catholic Priests who acted on conscience and were killed appear to have the backing of the Church. However the truth is the pulpits on both sides of the ocean told their people to go fight. The German Officers marched into battle with big belt buckles that said "Gut mit us." = God with Us. I have a nice photo I will look for this evening of the priests blessing the guns for the German Army. The main line religions all pushed patriotism and encouraged their congregations to support the government and any other story is a big lie. The Catholics and Protestants killing their brothers in faith in battle were doing it on both sides with the blessing of their churches. Didn't matter who won. Just like the Corperations back both parties in an elections now the churches could not lose at the end of the war because they could say they backed whoever won. If they killed all the Jews - back then that was a bonus nobody had to apologize for not caring about at the time.
You should look look at some of the easily available material about Charles Coughlin the "radio priest" who founded the use of hate radio in the 1930's and 40's He blasted Jews and other minorities along with Corperations and excused Nazis as needed because they were a shield against the Communists. His message was welcome by a huge audience and he only was forced off the air in 1942 when the FCC changed the rules about paying for air time to get rid of him.
Anybody that wants to can look up what happened back then but it is not the ugly kind of truth they tell students in public schools.


[ edited by gravid on May 24, 2001 01:40 PM ]
 
 NearTheSea
 
posted on May 24, 2001 02:10:06 PM new
Borillar

Yes, I see that Robertson 'cites them as authoritiies' but how, and why. I, myself would have to read the book to see why, thats me.

OT (sorry) but do you consider Billy Graham
as one of these 'Christians'?

now I really have to go postal ack


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 SNowYegReT
 
posted on May 24, 2001 02:15:32 PM new
krs, could the proposed pipeline be going thru Afghanistan?



Amnesty International report on Afghanistan

http://www.amnestyusa.org/scripts/exit.cgi?www.web.amnesty.org/web/ar2000web.nsf/ar2000

Gender apartheid under the Taliban

http://www.echonyc.com/~onissues/su98goodwin.html

 
 krs
 
posted on May 24, 2001 04:06:44 PM new
It was at risk, but now it's assured. Dumbya will see to it at any cost regardless any mere human rights or atrocities.

Find Neil Bush through Unocal?

 
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