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 Borillar
 
posted on May 28, 2001 12:10:56 PM new
I have, in the past, mentiuoned how the GOP admitted after Ronald Reagan was elected, that they PAID MONEY TO THE IRANIANS to hold onto the embassy hostages until after R.R. took the oath of ofice. The Irannians were more than willing to have given them back long beforehand, but the Republicans felt that the ends justify the means and putting a whole nation through embarrassmsnet and agony was a little thing, so long as they win the election. Sound familiar? Plus, Carter won a Nobel Peace Prize for his Middle-East accomplishments and of course, EXPERIENCED REPUBLICANS, like G.Bush, Sr., threw up on the Prime Minister of Japan! Now THAT sure showed the quality of foreign affairs that Republican administrations use!

Also, *I AM NOT TRY TO CHANGE ANYONE'S MIND!*
please read this quick post of this thread:
http://www.auctionwatch.com/mesg/read.html?num=28&id=75691&thread=75691

That explains my position exactly.

However, I really, truely, and SINCERELY would like an explantion from Republican Voters! How could you, knowing fully how mentally dim Dubya is, the world stage being so dangerous and his complete lack of experience, his avowed anti-American Citizen/Pro-Corporate stance, what in the HELL made you vote for him? Couldn't you have at least voted for McCain?

edited to say:

Sorry, but that answer would take this thread off-topic, so please don't answer. But I sure would like to know sometime why you did it.

[ edited by Borillar on May 28, 2001 12:12 PM ]
 
 hepburn
 
posted on May 28, 2001 01:35:25 PM new
Maybe he was voted in because hes just the puppet man and the real whiz minds are in the background pulling the strings? What they didnt expect was for him to say "no, I wanna do it" and having some scissors handy. Foiled again.

 
 uaru
 
posted on May 28, 2001 02:17:58 PM new
Borillar Carter won a Nobel Peace Prize

Where are you getting your facts or do you just make them up? If you are paying for such information you're due a refund.


[ edited by uaru on May 28, 2001 02:18 PM ]
 
 figmente
 
posted on May 28, 2001 03:23:40 PM new
US China policy comes close to saying that Bush is stupid and irrelevant. That was the only way to explain that his unequivocal statement that the US would defend Taiwan was not a significant policy change and direct challenge to the PRC.



 
 krs
 
posted on May 28, 2001 05:48:06 PM new
uaru,

Jimmy Carter's real name is Alva Myrdal Alfonso Robles, but he'd never have gotten elected using it.

 
 uaru
 
posted on May 28, 2001 06:19:26 PM new
krs Jimmy Carter's real name is Alva Myrdal Alfonso Robles, but he'd never have gotten elected using it.

Ah, that might explain it. In that case Borillar would be correct. Jimmy Carter did win a couple of Nobel Prizes (one as Alva Myrdal and another as Alfonso Robles)in 1982.



 
 Borillar
 
posted on May 28, 2001 07:26:48 PM new
You're right! I could have sworn that President Carter won a Nobel Peace Prize for his Camp David Accords in 1979. Maybe he was one of the nominees. Stil, I'd like to see Dumbya top that one!



[ edited by Borillar on May 29, 2001 01:23 PM ]
 
 krs
 
posted on May 28, 2001 08:06:29 PM new
You're thinking of Willa Cater, borillar, who also didn't win the nobel prize.

 
 HJW
 
posted on May 28, 2001 09:30:48 PM new
Willa Cather won the Pulitzer Prize.

 
 krs
 
posted on May 28, 2001 09:34:15 PM new
I had to use his 'cater' in order to play his 'william'.

 
 HJW
 
posted on May 28, 2001 09:38:24 PM new
Oh, I see.

 
 krs
 
posted on May 28, 2001 10:21:33 PM new
No you don't. That was complete nonsense.

 
 HJW
 
posted on May 28, 2001 10:29:31 PM new
That's why I see it.

 
 krs
 
posted on May 28, 2001 10:48:02 PM new
hmm.

 
 llama_lady
 
posted on May 29, 2001 12:18:16 PM new
While clinton was president, the Chinese had him in their pocket. Perhaps it was because his brother Roger is very heavily involved in trading/buying/selling with the Chinese. (and who knows what sneaky deals clinton has made with the Chinese) Whatever, Clinton looked the other way. However, I believe it is because clinton is a globalist, a socialist, someone who thinks that everyone should be on the same common ground (only when it appeals to clinton). Clinton was playing games with the North Koreans too. Neither of these countries like President Bush. Perhaps because Mr. Bush doesn't stand for the shenanigans and the disrespect both the presidents of the two countries show the United States. Perhaps it is because neither of these two countries "have stuff" on Mr. Bush. Perhaps because Mr. Bush is looking after our country, and our safety unlike his predecessor, clinton. If you think either of these two countries have our best interest in mind, please think again.

 
 Borillar
 
posted on May 29, 2001 01:22:17 PM new
I didn't care for Clinton's soft attitude towards the Chinese, nor his excuses for his foreign policies towards the Chinese. His record with the North Koreans is far more positive. But no one can claim that Bush has any sort of policy in place for the Chinese or anyone else in the world for that matter. If he (Bush) had the common sense to have a stated foreign policy, the Chinese wouldn't be going to these lengths to try to determine what his policies are. Sorry, a "hidden agenda" as our foreign policy spells disaster for America - not save it!



 
 figmente
 
posted on May 29, 2001 06:04:24 PM new
The governments of neither the Peoples Republic of China nor North Korea are our friends, and neither Bush nor Clinton fail to realize this. The disciplines of foreign policy and diplomacy include dealing with countries which are not your friends. Dumbya Bush has provoked both through ignorance or stupidity, NOT reasoned policy.
[ edited by figmente on May 29, 2001 06:15 PM ]
 
 uaru
 
posted on May 30, 2001 03:45:26 AM new
Borillar a "hidden agenda" as our foreign policy spells disaster for America

Some of those hidden agendas get exposed, but America does survive.



 
 Borillar
 
posted on May 30, 2001 07:27:00 AM new
Yeah, it was pretty obvious to me during the Clinton administration that Clinton's foreign policy rested on the corporate support that he received while in office, along with his own monetary interests. At least there was a stated foreign policy in place. While there was military intervention, he didn't drag us into a war with Haiti over the telephone company franchise -- unlike his predecessor and big oil. That one got a large number of people killed.





 
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