posted on September 30, 2002 09:10:04 PM new
Hey look a freind in CA just showed me these people who love people who dont pay thier judgements and stonewall their customers.
posted on September 30, 2002 10:10:12 PM newsnoopnetdogI have a $5000 judgement against paypal in the State of Oregon that paypal has refused to pay.
There's a lot I don't know, and unfortunately little if anything snoopnetdog/nwrebel/swapselltrade says is going to be greeted with much credibility from me.
I don't understand how you were able to get a PayPal account again given the past issues.
I don't understand why you'd have used PayPal again if your merchant account was working so well.
I don't understand how you can get an affordable merchant account given the nature of your some of your merchandise.
I don't even understand how you're able to continue posting on AW with your coy "I found this site" spam routines either.
I don't understand how you can be such unlucky guy. Your site is well known for being caught spamming, eBay NARU's you, OTWA bans you, and now mean old PayPal is picking on you. Looks like everyone is taking a number for their turn to kick poor snoopnetdog/nwrebel/swapselltrade.
Forgive me if I seem harsh, but I have little tolerance for those that view ecommerce as an opportunity to fleece people. Your idea of ecommerce is a liability for a lot of honest hard working people.
posted on October 1, 2002 04:09:25 AM new
I am really confused, you had a paypal account, had a problem, told people to chargeback.
You then reopened another PayPal account and had the same problem? My question, is why did you reopen another PayPal account considering the problems that you have had in the past?
To me, several things are not adding up th here, first you posted on the 27th that you gave all the information regarding the account providing tracking numbers and/or refunds when asked regarding complaints that PayPal has on file, but you would not fax a cover letter that identified the account. Why? If all you had to do was send a cover letter, then the whole problem could have been solved.
Also, on the 27th you began to e-mail customer to begin the chargeback process and they were able to complete that by the Sept 30th. How did you get that done so fast? When I have not received product and had to dispute the charges, I called the card company, then in turn would send me a form and I would have to fill out the form. From the time I started till the time I got refunded, it was about a month before the merchant was even notified of the chargeback. How did you get this process down to three days, and that is over a weekend.
Even though you may have told your customers to do a chargeback, that still does not remove your commitment to the people that can not. If one of your customers paid with a debit card instead of a credit card, you are still responsiable for that transaction.
Everyone that has read my posts knows that I am not in bed with PayPal and that I have no love for PayPal. However, I do like to maintain some crediability in the board when I post and it is hard for me to come to your defense when you had a problem before that required you to go to court and get a judgement. After you got the judgement, you should have not even attempted to set up another account, you should have just moved on.
As for the $ 10.00 for each chargeback, you are still responsiable for those as well and what they will do is not just keep hounding you, but also destroy your credit rating since PayPal does report to the credit bureau.
And this is all over a coversheet that you did not want to fax, or is there something that you are not telling us?
posted on October 1, 2002 07:54:32 AM new
you can register with paypal using different id etc and it could take awhile for paypal to find out and restrict the account.
NWREBEL if i recall his posts said he has spent sleepless nites wondering why there are more paypal chargebacks than his merchant account.
then he close the bank acount linked to paypal and open an account with c2it,he even showed us an email from c2it stating that he has received payment from his customer.
so now he is back with paypal,one wonders what happens to his c2it account??
i recalled that paypal rolled out red carpet treatment for him,then the honeymoon went sour and paypal wants rolling daily reserve ,then one thing leads to another,basically the story of how a cozy relationship went sour.
paypal is the only one which provided seller protection ,so think of it.
posted on October 1, 2002 09:38:54 AM new
Simple truth of the matter is the guy is a fake and scam artist that bounces around from service to service promoting and selling his "crapeware" to any unprepared individual he can find. then when it all starts to catch up with him he simply moves on to the next one. best words for it are internet gypsy but that may be kind of hard words for those poor gypsies. there are other words but you cant post them here.
posted on October 1, 2002 09:50:43 AM new
It may be possible that the real reason that PayPal locked the account is that they linked it to that other account.
posted on October 1, 2002 03:56:29 PM new
HHAAA NOW I AM HOME FREE FROM PAYPAL I JUST ZEROED MY BALANCE WITH MY LOCAL BANK CLOSED THE ACCOUNT TOOK ALL CASH AND MOVED TO UNDISCLOSED LOCATION. PAYPAL REPS I KNOW YOU READ THE BOARDS, SO MY PARTING GESTURE KEEP THE MONEY YOU HAVE IN THE ACCOUNT BECAUSE YOU LOST MORE BY THE WAY YOU RUN BUSINESS THEN YOU COULD EVER IMAGINE. NO MORE PAYPAL FOR US. TWO TIMES WITH PROBLEMS AND THAT PROVES THEORY THAT THESE PEOPLE CANNOT BE TRUSTED WITH CASH. GOOD LUCK ALL WITH YOUR FORUM AND BIZ VENTURES AS I WONT BE RETURNING HERE AS WE ARE PAYPAL FREE AND FIND NO NEED TO ARGUE OR BANT ANY FURTHER., ps COONR WHO EVER YOU ARE KISS MY ***
posted on October 1, 2002 09:29:18 PM new
I'm 99.9% sure that swapselltrade has been NARUed from eBay before, and I suspect he has to rely on using bogus information or friends to sign up for new accounts.
I am 100% sure that swapselltrade will continue to scam folks as he slithers from under one rock to another on the internet. He changes ISPs, domain names, payment methods, and IDs, but it'll always be the same take the money and run routine, leave the buyers screwed, and leave someone else holding the bag. Do a 'whois' on swapselltrade.com and dropshipguide.com, notice the different registant names, but if you click on the PayPal link on the dropshipguide.com site you'll see you're paying the same account that swapselltrade was using to accept payments on his eBay auctions payment links. I feel the urge to go to eBay and bid on some Glade air fresher.
A rose by any other name:
swapselltrade.com
naturaldepot.com
asiawholesalers.com
americagoestowar.com
dropshipguide.com
Internet gypsy describes Joe rather well, what a fitting screen name for his next AW account. I think everyone seems to see Snoopnetdog, NWRebel, Swapselltrade, for what he is.
posted on October 2, 2002 09:07:03 AM new
yup funny the bbb reports us as a good business
http://www.thebbb.org/report.html?compid=37001985 as we have resolved all issues over 2 plus years of business and as with any large scale company you will have whiners and flame throwers but as always we do deliver whats required of us. oh thanks for alerting us of the paypal buttons on dropshipguide.com as we have now removed those as well. Dont forget to review our other sites you missed. www.asiawholesalers.com and www.wholesalesecretsrevealed.com and coming out is www.closeoutmerchandise.com and we just completed another site at www.auctioneerwholesale.com so as you can see we have many entities which all do well. But they will not offer paypal and I advise all to avoid this company as your money is not safe or insured what so ever and their customer service is lacking.
You were right about swapselltrade being naru'd from ebay, here is a copy of the ratings
121 positives. 117 are from unique users and count toward the final rating.
6 neutrals.
16 negatives. 14 are from unique users and count toward the final rating.
I have looked at the web page, and it is very confusing. I am not saying that they are running a scam, but it seems that the do require you to buy information regarding dropship lists.
posted on October 2, 2002 09:45:50 AM new
Yeah, old Joe's really running a legitimate business. Have you looked at what he's selling? A punk with a gun to your head has more honor and integrity than Joe, at least they're up front about robbing you. Look at the crap he's trying to pawn off as his legitimate business. Some of his offers are real winners.
MY GUARANTEE TO YOU: YOU can be one of the first to own DVDS of today's most popular FIRST RUN movies! Often, these DVDS aren't released to the public until months after the film has left the theaters, but NOW, we can offer you the DVDS while they're playing in the theaters (sometimes even a few days before!)
Yeah, Joe, you keep telling us how much of an upstanding business man you are, we're all ears.
Having Joe (aka bag of scams) tell me to avoid PayPal is like Saddam Hussein sending out campaign flyers telling me why I should vote to recall Bush.
I think this is a first, where you and aggree on something. If I understand that web page correctly, he wants you to pay him $ 50.00 and he will give you a list of vendors that will sell you first run movies (in violation of U.S. Copyright Laws). My question would by why would anyone do that? You are the lonely that you can not wait until next month in November to buy Spiderman, that you are willing to buy information where you can buy it today.
There are a lot of items on the web site that do not make sense
