posted on February 22, 2001 12:24:25 AM
I keep updating my user preferences and just like eBay, I always seem to get email from these people! Anyone else get this message? Basically its PayPal telling me how to send a WBN to my bidders. For an example of how many times they say their own name (PayPal) I have replaced it with CRAPPY SERVICE!!! Check it out below:
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Congratulations on winning my auction! My preferred
method for receiving payments is CRAPPY SERVICE!!!. CRAPPY SERVICE!!! is a
service that allows you to instantly send money to anyone
with an email address. CRAPPY SERVICE!!! is used by over 6 million
members in 26 countries worldwide, and CRAPPY SERVICE!!! is accepted
on a majority of all eBay auctions. CRAPPY SERVICE!!! is completely
free for US buyers to send money, and CRAPPY SERVICE!!! lets you
charge the payment to either your credit card or checking
account.
Sending money through CRAPPY SERVICE!!! is instantaneous - which
means that I can ship your auction purchase faster - and
CRAPPY SERVICE!!! also increases your safety by keeping your financial
account information private. You don't have to share your
account numbers with me when you send money to me with
CRAPPY SERVICE!!! (unlike making a typical credit card payment over
the Web or even when you mail someone a check). CRAPPY SERVICE!!!
just sends me an email notice that the money has been
transferred to my CRAPPY SERVICE!!! account but I never see your
credit card or checking account information.
It only takes about 5 minutes to create a CRAPPY SERVICE!!! account
and use it to send money. Here are the four easy steps
that U.S. residents can follow in order to use CRAPPY SERVICE!!!:
1) Go to the CRAPPY SERVICE!!! website and fill out their one-page
registration form. Your email address will be your
username, and you'll be asked to choose a password.
2) CRAPPY SERVICE!!! will send you an email with a confirmation code
in it; click on the link in the email to confirm that
the email address that you registered as your username
actually belongs to you.
3) Register a credit card with your CRAPPY SERVICE!!! account in
order to fund your first payment. CRAPPY SERVICE!!! immediately
gives you a $250 initial spending limit (which you can
later lift by completing their Verification process).
4) Type in my email address and the amount of your winning
bid plus shipping into the CRAPPY SERVICE!!! "Send Money" form and
then click "Send." Just like that, I'll have the money
and can prepare your purchase for shipping.
(Note: The steps for residents of countries other than the
U.S. to set up an account are slightly different - please see
the CRAPPY SERVICE!!! website for details.)
CRAPPY SERVICE!!! also offers a $5 bonus for U.S. members who open an
account and complete the full registration requirements. To
find out more about CRAPPY SERVICE!!!, you can visit their website at:
It's worthwhile to take a couple of minutes to set up a
CRAPPY SERVICE!!! account. Once you are done, you'll be able to
quickly make any future auction payments and you won't have
to take time to enter in all your financial information
again. And when you decide to do some more shopping on
eBay, please take a minute to click on the link below and
take a look at my current listings. I'd love the chance
to do business with you again!
Thanks again for bidding on my auction. I'll start
getting your item ready for shipping as soon as you send me
the money through CRAPPY SERVICE!!!.
posted on February 22, 2001 08:16:46 AM
They forgot to add:
"Since with CRAPPY SERVICE you never send your real info to the seller, you are free to charge back your purchase at any time and keep it free! And CRAPPY SERVICE will be more than happy to just charge the seller while refusing to divuldge who it was that initiated the charge back. So remember the number one payment service CRAPPY SERVICE. It's fast, safe for scammers and free to scammers since they don't have to pay for the merchandise."
posted on February 22, 2001 08:22:06 AM
I stopped using CRAPPY SERVICE because of all the scary stories I've read. This is just another reason why to stop using them.
posted on February 22, 2001 08:45:45 AM
This is the part I liked best.
You don't have to share your account numbers with me when you send money to me with PayPal (unlike making a typical credit card payment over the Web or even when you mail someone a check).
Think about what they are saying. They want the buyer to trust them with all the info, and an agreement that lets them drain you account whenever they want. They are implying that even mailing a check could be risky since the receipiant gets your account number.What a sleazy scare tactic
I've had buyers who have bought into this baloney. And refused to pay any other way.
PayPal has PROVEN that they are not worthy of anyones trust. Repeatedly lying. Isn't anyone going to start a class action suit against them???
posted on February 22, 2001 09:24:47 AM
>>If the USPS loses one of your payments, will you start using FedEx only? <<
If one of my customers complained to USPS about a package I sent and their response was to grab all my mail and hold it indefinitely, then yes, I would start using Fedex only.
posted on February 22, 2001 09:43:22 AM
It figures that PayPal can send out this crap, but can't manage to notify its users of major changes in its TOS.
posted on February 22, 2001 09:49:51 AMdigitalmaster, as a buyer I would be PISSED if I received that EOA notice. IMO, that is an unsolicited advertisement for CRAPPY SERVICE and I would consider it to be spam.
posted on February 22, 2001 10:09:37 AM
After all of this time THEY feel that we need them to tell us how to contact OUR customers after the auction. The NERVE of these people!
What is happening to this industry? First Ebay gives themselves a customer service award now Paypal wants us to spread their propaganda in our End Of Auction email?
They are now too lazy to spread their own propaganda! Sheesh...
posted on February 22, 2001 12:09:05 PM
Hi vargas,
Users that are opt-in on mailings would receive notification of policy changes/product changes.There is also a link on the site after you log in to your account stating POLICY CHANGES and it shows a last modified date.
If a user is not opt-in and does not click on the Policy Changes link---then they would be unaware of changes.
posted on February 22, 2001 12:46:05 PM
Peracher4u, I also have not had many problems with PayPal either, but that is still no excuse for them to send spam. If you check other messages, many people have had problems. In fact, many people have complained that all their money in the paypal account was locked from them because a bidder claimed to never recieve an item. I have read many horror stories like this and I think its fair to point out the bad with PayPal too. I signed up a week after they came out and was one of the first sellers using PayPal. I loved their service at one time, but they use a lot of fake promotion gimmicks.
For example, they promote that if you sign up your friends, you will get a referal, which was true at one point. Now, however, that is much different. Before you get a referal a user needs to sign up, give there social security number to setup a money market account, transfer $100 into their paypal account at the time of sign up through a verifiable bank account, verify their bank and address information. This is fine for security, but as long as a user signs up, I feel sellers who promoted the service deserve a kick back for promotion we are giving PayPal.
Plus, they charge outrageous fees and don't protect the seller at all. Everytime I get a bid about half the bidders end up not including their address on the payment, so I have to refund the money and ask them to send their payment again. I am charged both times they pay so I end up paying like $0.70-$0.80 each time a bidder makes a mistake! PayPal does not refund those charges. If you look at the agreement, if you send an item to a non-verified PayPal address, you are not entitled to ANY protection and all the bidder has to do is ask for their money back and they will get it.
Also, I have noticed that since I started offering BillPoint anyway (which is not much better) I am getting 90% of my payments through that, so PayPal is mostly useless at this point. I will still accept it, but only after I have downgraded to a personal account so I no longer have to pay fees anymore.
posted on February 22, 2001 02:55:38 PM
Hi vargas,
There is no way for me to tell if you received the email, but I am advising that these changes are sent to users opt-in or can be viewed on the site. I am also advising users, in general, on how to receive updates.
posted on February 22, 2001 05:01:09 PM
I have recieved their spam for the past year which luckily is not that often but I have NEVER recieved any policy update from PayPal.