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 redskinfan
 
posted on April 22, 2001 08:35:25 AM new
I had a winning bidder on a printer and it closed. Received EOA from ebay, email winning bidder and the email bounces. I check the email addy and resend, bounces again. Try it from a few other email accounts and they all bounce. So, I pull contact info and call him at home. He answers the phone and I tell him who I was and before I could go much further (I was being nice and polite because I saw he had recent positives for fast payment, so thought it must've been simple error that could be fixed.)he cut me off saying, "I don't even have a computer." Then he hangs up the telephone. So, how did this guy bid on my auction without a computer?????? So I rate him neg. stating quite simply that his email bounced, that I called him, and what he told me on the phone. I found the whole thing to be quite strange.

So I offered it to my next highest bidder just now.

Has anyone had anyone say such a thing to them before????

 
 dottie
 
posted on April 22, 2001 08:43:33 AM new
redskin: I wonder if the user who won your auction gave their own telephone number at the time of regitration... or that of a relative (thinking that it would be more "secure" not to give out all of their information).

Sometimes... ISPs put a block on eMails originating from certain other ISPs due to recent massive eMails being bounced off of their servers by a professional REAL spammer.... IF this was the case... a call to your ISP might have helped to verify it one way or the other.

Additionally... eMails between winning bidders and sellers on eBay do go directly from your ISP to theirs. SOoooo you might have tried contacting them via the "Send this auction to a friend" eMail link available on the items listing page to see if an eMail from eBays servers would go through or not.

(just some ideas to try next time before leaving negative feedback)

- Dottie

 
 london4
 
posted on April 22, 2001 08:44:18 AM new
He may be telling the truth. The number I gave for my contact info is not a valid one, I don't know who has it now and if a seller called it they might well get the same response since it wouldn't be me.

 
 redskinfan
 
posted on April 22, 2001 08:52:51 AM new
Well if the person gave the wrong phone # he also gave the wrong name and email address.

 
 mikeselis
 
posted on April 22, 2001 08:57:54 AM new
The contact information is a joke because it is unverified. I would try emailing the person in 2 or 3 days because their ISP might have been rebooting the mail servers or DNS might have been messed up causing the emails to never find their mail server. I have an email address that never works but I know exists because I can send outgoing mail with it, but incoming mail never works. So I have the reply-to address reference another email address. In the end it all works out fine.

 
 dottie
 
posted on April 22, 2001 08:58:02 AM new
It should be noted though... that providing FALSE contact information is against the rules at eBay and IS a suspendable offense.

- Dottie

 
 redskinfan
 
posted on April 22, 2001 09:03:33 AM new
Well, if it's his isp then it's been down 2 days in a row. I don't feel comfortable doing business with someone I cannot contact or if they lie to me either by saying they don't have a computer or contact info or any other way. Whomever it is has been bidding on many items.

I know it's been posted many times, but what is the email addy to report someone lying in their contact info??



 
 ExecutiveGirl
 
posted on April 22, 2001 09:13:15 AM new
Redskinfan: You sure are having a lot of problem customers these days!

I would contact SafeHarbor, tell them you called the phone number this guy registered with and the guy who answered said he doesn't even have a computer.

The bidder will be suspended.

 
 dottie
 
posted on April 22, 2001 09:27:51 AM new
[email protected]

 
 shaani
 
posted on April 22, 2001 09:28:02 AM new
If I won an auction yesterday and the seller couldn't contact me by today because I wasn't around or my e-mail was down I would be a bit pi**ed if they pulled my contact info that fast. What ever happened to the 3 days to contact? It is a weekend also.

Is there a possibility that you dialed the wrong #? This guy may very well be a deadbeat but I would have given it a bit more time to check out things for sure before I negged right away. But that's me.



 
 shaani
 
posted on April 22, 2001 09:58:22 AM new
redskinfan,

I am checking the time that you started this thread and I am wondering what time you called this guy this morning? Was he in the same time zone as you?

I would be very upset if a seller called me on a Sunday morning as it is my only day to sleep in a bit. Maybe you woke him up?



 
 mikeselis
 
posted on April 22, 2001 10:10:05 AM new
You might also remember that if they registered a few years ago their area code may have changed. I know where I live we have had one area code split into 5 new area codes and the original area code, all within the last decade. That could be the answer.

 
 redskinfan
 
posted on April 22, 2001 10:28:11 AM new
1 hour time difference. this guy had such a strange last name that there is no way I could've called the wrong # because when I asked to speak to that name he said, "speaking." AW stamps the post in Pacific time because it was after 11:30 when I posted this.

I just tried the email addy again and it still bounced. Since I have no way to contact the real person behind that ebay alias, if it was in fact not him and someone is using his name, address and phone # for ebay, then I doubt the person would suddenly become honest and use the real contact information. Either way if the guy I spoke to is the same person that made the ebay id and is bidding on my auction then there is potential fraud if he were to pay by say cc and then claim he never made the purchase since he "has no computer"?? I am not going to do business with someone who isn't honest like this.

 
 
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