capotasto
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posted on October 26, 2001 04:27:36 PM new
The president / CEO Dr. Healy resigned today. Seems the RC is up to its old tricks. The $$$ they have collectoed for the Sept 11 victims will not go to them -- only about half -- the rest will probably pay for the famous dinners and parties for the in crowd.
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upriver
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posted on October 26, 2001 04:48:49 PM new
Not to be too picky, but really what has this got to do with eBay?
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upriver
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posted on October 26, 2001 04:50:04 PM new
And again, another example I believe of the debased content of these message center boards, that will become rampant after November 1st when they are no longer moderated, and people feel its ok to just post whatever old poop comes into their head.
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dadofstickboy
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posted on October 26, 2001 04:52:32 PM new
Well Ebay's trying to get them an extra $100,000,000.00 They want us to raise it,just who will get it?
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capotasto
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posted on October 26, 2001 08:05:16 PM new
Ever hear of A4A ?
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JACKSWEBB
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posted on October 27, 2001 03:32:48 AM new
Whatever poops into thier head,,,,,,,,,yea!!!!!!!! I like it!!!!! It's called freedom of speech!!!!! Ever took the time to read the documents?????? Yea, Thanks for speaking, Whatever poops into thier little ole head. Score one for the good guys. Semper Fi. Looks like your headed downriver to me.
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petertdavis
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posted on October 27, 2001 08:14:36 AM new
capotasto is a TROLL, LIAR, and probably a sexual partner of Osama bin Laden.
Post a link to a credible news article to prove your point.
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kept2much-07
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posted on October 27, 2001 08:25:31 AM new
I don't have a link but I did see her on TV last night saying she resigned for that same reason!
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avaloncourt
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posted on October 27, 2001 08:26:32 AM new
Here are excerpts from a news story and a link to the story:
"Healy gave no official reason for leaving, but alluded to two of the many controversies that have filled her tenure, including Israel's exclusion from full membership of the International Red Cross and how to spend the more than $450 million raised to help victims of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks."
"Healy rankled other charities collecting money for Sept. 11 victims by refusing to go along with a coordinated effort led by the New York attorney general to keep track of how much money was being given to each family."
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20011026/us/red_cross_healy_6.html
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ksedar
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posted on October 27, 2001 08:32:37 AM new
PetertDavis Wow where are the moderators??
I have always felt that where there is smoke there is fire. I am sure that this charity money gathering thing is going to be a big fiasco!
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avaloncourt
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posted on October 27, 2001 08:32:56 AM new
and another VERY interesting quote from the South Florida Sun-Sentinal:
"Healy said the board also differed with her decision to keep all of the nearly $500 million the Red Cross raised following the Sept. 11 disasters separate from the charity's main relief fund."
Sounds like there was an attempt to muddy the waters as to what money was earmarked for what purpose.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/nationworld/sns-redcross-healy.story?coll=sns%2Dnewsnation%2Dheadlines
[ edited by avaloncourt on Oct 27, 2001 08:38 AM ]
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gc2
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posted on October 27, 2001 08:42:36 AM new
...perhaps the moderators are already gone....??????
No way they would let this one pass.
Think, Mark, think!!!!
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joice
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posted on October 27, 2001 08:54:27 AM new
petertdavis,
Knock off the insults. This board is still moderated.
Joice
[email protected]
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Empires
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posted on October 27, 2001 09:28:47 AM new
Wow- Joice, I'm not sure these boards will survive without moderation. Yuck. None the less here's a virus alert to the Red Cross.. as for the Pres leaving.. So much for giving more blood than Dracula could drink. Ah, but Meg and Dracula would make such a good team. (Hence a relationship to ebay to keep the thread relevant.)
http://www.antivirus.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=TROJ_SEPTER.A
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lindajean
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posted on October 27, 2001 09:36:43 AM new
I can't believe the reactions I am reading. It is true they are not going to give 100% of the money to the victims (which they had promised). It is all over the news, and it does pertain to Ebay since Ebay chose to start A4A!
This will be my last post! I can't believe how rude the people on this board can be. Without moderators it will be impossible to sort through the crap and get to anything worth reading as everyone attacks everyone, calls them liars, and generally belittles everyone for voicing their opinion. WHAT A SHAME AND A WASTE!
I believe the boards should just be closed before they are allowed to operate unmoderated!!!!!
AW has my CC info because I use their services, but those who do not use them and just use (or misuse) the boards are going to ruin it for all. Maybe they should consider making the boards available just to those who currently use the AW services???
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petertdavis
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posted on October 27, 2001 10:17:03 AM new
lindajean, it is NOT true.
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gr8ful2bhere
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posted on October 27, 2001 10:31:32 AM new
Now Now -
peterdavis is one of the most well behaved and kind posters here (well, close) - I think he's just checking to make sure the moderators aren't running out their vacation and sick time before the layoff next week. He didn't mean to say anyone was REALLY a liar, and he knows capotasto is not a troll.
peter - what DO you know about bin Laden and people on AW boards?? Maybe you can tell us next Thursday, completely unfettered?
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joice
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posted on October 27, 2001 10:36:25 AM new
gr8ful2bhere,
To ask someone a question to which they were already moderated, could be seen as baiting. Don't go there.
Joice
[email protected]
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gr8ful2bhere
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posted on October 27, 2001 10:40:07 AM new
joice -
good point. i just think he was kidding, though the moderation (in his case and mine) is very appropriate. won't go there anymore.
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kiara
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posted on October 27, 2001 10:41:23 AM new
AW has my CC info because I use their services, but those who do not use them and just use (or misuse) the boards are going to ruin it for all. Maybe they should consider making the boards available just to those who currently use the AW services???
And those people who use the AW services would be the most helpful and the most responsible, right?
Just because someone uses the AW services does not mean that they will behave on the message board.
I personally know of one person that uses the services but will never come over here to post because he knows he would be total chaos and that he would be moderated and given the boot.
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gs4
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posted on October 27, 2001 10:43:21 AM new
LINDAJEAN
"I believe the boards should just be closed before they are allowed to operate unmoderated!!!!! "
I think that's the plan. Wait till all hell breaks loose, then use that excuse to kill this chat board. 
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gc2
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posted on October 27, 2001 11:08:26 AM new
" 'I believe the boards should just be closed before they are allowed to operate unmoderated!!!!!'
I think that's the plan. Wait till all hell breaks loose, then use that excuse to kill this chat board."
The only alternative I see would be immediate and permanent suspension for first offense....no warnings.
But it might get mighty lonesome around here quickly.
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mrpotatoheadd
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posted on October 27, 2001 01:29:45 PM new
peterdavis-
Post a link to a credible news article to prove your point.
Do you consider the LA Times credible? Read about it here.
After the attacks, Healy created the Liberty Disaster Fund. It was designed to keep separate all donations received by the Red Cross since Sept. 11 for terrorism-related relief efforts, and therefore make it easier to track and target money toward victims and family members.
"I strongly oppose commingling of the moneys with any other Red Cross disaster funds," she said, adding: "Reasonable people can differ."
Despite the financial separation, the Red Cross only expects to distribute a portion of the fund directly to families. In an Oct. 12 statement on its Web site, the Red Cross listed seven programs to be funded by the terror-related donations. Only two--the Family Gift Program and the International Family Assistance plan--are aimed solely at survivors and family members.
The Family Gift Program set aside $100 million to be divided among the families of people who died in New York City, Pennsylvania and Arlington, Va. International Family Assistance is using $11 million to help families of foreign nationals who died. It helps pay for travel, retrieval of their loved ones' remains and other expenses.
A third venture, dubbed Immediate Disaster Relief, earmarks $100 million to cover on-the-ground needs in the three areas. The money covers everything from "spiritual help" for survivors to the travel costs of "more than 35,000 Red Cross disaster relief workers," according to the news release.
All told, that accounts for about 42% of the total amount that the Red Cross has raised since Sept. 11.
Of the nearly $290 million remaining, about $109 million has been set aside for plans to improve the charity's telecommunications system, make blood supplies last longer and help staff handle terrorist attacks involving weapons of mass destruction.
The Red Cross has not said how it will spend the remaining $180 million.
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ashlandtrader
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posted on October 27, 2001 02:20:43 PM new
All I can say is that it is very sad.
It seems to me that when they started using the Sept 11 attack to raise money they should have been prepared to seek out the people who needed that money and helped them efficently. It seems as though that has not been done.
And it goes to show that no charity (that I know of anyway) is 100% honest. And that is sad!
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GreetingsfromUK
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posted on October 27, 2001 02:30:23 PM new
I am posting and running like hell! I donate to The International Red Cross, and then the USA bombs my donations. THIS IS NOT MY TRADING NAME!
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GreetingsfromUK
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posted on October 27, 2001 06:10:18 PM new
Just thought that folks would like to know that innocent replies to this post have been censored. The first casuality of war is truth.
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YourDesigns
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posted on October 27, 2001 06:49:12 PM new
Hmmm... tempers are getting short even on the staff of AW.
I would not doubt the RC is taking a nice big fat chunk out of the proceeds and using it for its own funding.
I have said to many we should just stop donating to the Sept 11 fund, and give to charities that need it.
Keep in mind that INSURANCE companies and the federal government are gonna cough up BILLIONS more for helping people and the owners. I find it funny that what has been given to people just makes it less that the fat insurance companies have to pay out.
There are charities that really need funding, and many are in dire straits right now because of all the funneling to the Sept 11 funds.
Don't get me wrong, I am sad and very angry about what happened, and have nothing but sympathy for what happened. However, people need to keep in mind that the "emergency" is over with and now its time for the government (which is our money anyway) and the insurance companies (including for the airlines) to start flipping the bill.
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gr8ful2bhere
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posted on October 27, 2001 06:52:09 PM new
Are the Red Cross and the Sept 11 fund the same thing? I though the Sept. 11 fund was run by United Way in NY.
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petertdavis
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posted on October 27, 2001 08:45:26 PM new
The original post said that "rest [of the donations] will probably pay for the famous dinners and parties for the in crowd." Nothing in the LA Times article even remotely suggested that this is true.
If the moderators are going to be deleting unsubstantiated insults, perhaps they should have started with that.
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mrpotatoheadd
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posted on October 27, 2001 10:29:18 PM new
Which is worse- that Dr. Bernadine Healy said [regarding contributions made towards the WTC disaster relief effort] "I strongly oppose commingling of the moneys with any other Red Cross disaster funds", even though it is documented that less than half of the $500 million collected will be going to the victims of the WTC disaster or that an anonymous poster on an internet message board suggested that the money not going to the victims "will probably pay for the famous dinners and parties for the in crowd"?
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