ihula
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posted on November 16, 2002 05:56:22 PM new
I was doing a search on Koss Headphones (I have 12 pair...anyone need one?) This was what I came across.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=979935930
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ihula
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posted on November 16, 2002 06:03:27 PM new
Here's another one, but at least they know how to hide it
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1788977198
People that can't "play nice" just make me mad. I wouldn't have even found the keywords in this one if someone in another chatroom didn't teach me how to do it.
Edited to add - Person has no feedback and user ID is from 10-14-02. I'm willing to bet it's a suspended seller that got a new ID
[ edited by ihula on Nov 16, 2002 06:04 PM ]
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inot
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posted on November 16, 2002 06:06:02 PM new
Wow..usually when you see that, you have erroneously wandered into one of those
"why I hate ebay CD" offers! What if everyone
started doing that? you'd never be able to find anything! YIKES!
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mjh2
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posted on November 16, 2002 06:10:02 PM new
Ihula--
Funny how some sellers tell on themselves. I.e., snow job.
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akmcmc1
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posted on November 16, 2002 06:19:05 PM new
OK, I must be looking for the wrong thing or blind, but I don't see any "keywords" in the second one. What am I missing? Thanks
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hair2dye4
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posted on November 16, 2002 06:38:31 PM new
My, I can't get over the first one, just the thought and research to get all those key words.. that is really wrong, smart but not cool, I don't get the second one what did I miss?
The first seller should not get away with that besides the normal part of the auction was loud and to long of TOS, If I hadn't seen the key word spam I still wouldn't have bought from this seller just because of the long TOS.
Ya know there are a few on these threads who thrive on policeing ebay just for fun but this should be reported, I asume they have reported them by now.
I often wonder when someone posts an auction number here and we all go look at the auction for whatever reason what the seller must think of all the hits?
This person is smart and if paying attention knows someone is on to him/her.
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ihula
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posted on November 16, 2002 06:42:56 PM new
What you have to do to find the key words in the second one is right click anywhere on the page and click on view source. When you scroll down you'll see them. That's how people hide the keywords.
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throughhiker
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posted on November 16, 2002 07:12:00 PM new
Here's another interesting phenomenon, When the second one is viewed in Netscape, which is my primary browser, the spam is just as visible as in the first. But when viewed in MS Internet Explorer, they are hidden in the source. These guys need to me canned!
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gina50
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posted on November 16, 2002 07:34:26 PM new
Unreal but how in the heck do they link the keywords so the shopper will find their auction ??
Not that I am going to do this, I have excellent feedback after 3 years of selling on ebay and would not risk doing this but was just wondering
NOT gina50 on ebay
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ihula
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posted on November 16, 2002 07:43:15 PM new
I'm not sure what you mean by link them so someone will see their auctions. I did a search on Koss headphones and clicked to view titles and descriptions - so they showed up. Even the hidden ones will show up that way. I have heard that you can do the hidden ones in the title too, but I'm not sure if that would actually work. I would never do it either to risk getting suspended.
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Twelvepole
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posted on November 16, 2002 07:53:25 PM new
Way to ruin search function... hate keyword spamming.
Ain't Life Grand... 
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Libra63
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posted on November 16, 2002 08:33:29 PM new
It's time that someone can figure some softwear to show key word spamming? Or isn't that possible. There are cheaters everywhere, except on this discussion board. Now I know how to check for things like this.
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Libra63
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posted on November 16, 2002 08:34:56 PM new
ihula - did you sell your victoria secret items yet?
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sparkz
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posted on November 16, 2002 09:25:27 PM new
I'm definitely not an Ebay cop but these two auctions need to be turned in. Any seller who is selling an item on either of those lists is being adversely affected by the impact this method of sabotaging the search function. If their junk can't sell on its own merits, they need to get off ebay and leave the site to serious buyers and sellers. I got turned in and wound up in hot water just for including the word "Bud" in an auction for a German beer stein. I wasn't even trying to pull a fast one. It was just a stupid mistake on my part. These people have to know what they are doing is wrong.
The light at the end of the tunnel will turn out to be an oncoming train.
[ edited by sparkz on Nov 16, 2002 09:29 PM ]
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tomwiii
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posted on November 17, 2002 04:52:53 AM new
do a VIEW SOURCE on the second one &... voila! Pretty SNEAKY 
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ihula
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posted on November 17, 2002 05:16:16 AM new
The second one is so tricky - that's why I can't believe he is a newbie. I think he is a former suspended seller.
Sorry Libra - went to bed early last night. I sold a couple of pair of jeans and other long pants, but haven't gotten around to doing the summer stuff yet. I just ordered 3 pallets of computer products, so once I'm done listing those (probably this week) I'll start on the VS while I'm waiting for my next load. I want to slow down a little, though. I had parent teacher conferences with my 8 year old on Friday. He showed us a picture and a "story" that he made that was hanging in the hall about what he's thankful for this year. This is what he wrote (keep in mind that me and his father are divorced): "I am thankful for my dad because he loves me. I am thankful for my mom because she sells on ebay". It almost brought tears to my eyes. I said "don't you think that I love you too?" He said "yes, I know you do, but I get to keep some of the things that you sell on ebay (video games and stuff that I get in) and I didn't have enough room to write both. I guess that makes sense in an 8 year old mind, but I am still feeling that I don't pay enough attention to him.
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classicrock000
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posted on November 18, 2002 08:23:39 AM new
ihula--my wifes a 2nd-3rd grade special ed teacher,and she knows what an ebay addict I am.If she saw that comment "I love my mom because she sells on ebay" hanging in the hall-she would have been "roaring" as I imagine most of the teachers were,if they had a sense of humor.
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ihula
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posted on November 18, 2002 08:28:32 AM new
I took it the wrong way at first, but his occupational therapy teacher assured me that he just was looking for something unique to say and that the love was a given. I guess it is cute. What I hate is when I'm at rummage sales or Goodwill and the kids will run up to me and practically yell "you think this would sell on ebay?". I have since taught them that the "E" word is not appropriate to mention in some places (makes me feel self-concious - like I'm stealing from poor people). Now our key word is "Do you think Even would like this for his birthday?"
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BIGECOLLECTIBLES
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posted on November 19, 2002 11:54:20 AM new
WHY DO YOU DO A SEARCH WITH TITLE AND DESCRIPTION??? JUST DO TITLE. IT WILL SAVE YOU ALL AGGREVATION AND $$$
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ihula
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posted on November 19, 2002 01:04:45 PM new
I will very often to a search on both title and description if the title search brings up nothing. For example I wear size tall jeans. Some people may put in the title tall, long, or 34 - sometimes nothing at all, but in the description they may put tall length or something like that. I will also do it for a certain model number (like the headphones). Sometimes people will list the model number in the description, but not in the title.
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Prada67
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posted on November 19, 2002 10:57:51 PM new
And I thought I had a bug in my computer or something. Thanks. I usually do the titles and descriptions search and I am always getting things that have nothing to do with the other - clueless no longer. Thanks!
Not Prada67 on eBay
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breyerlover
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posted on November 20, 2002 07:41:29 PM new
Hi all. I'm new to the Community and found this very informative. Thanks! And by the way, I did some checking, and they are being investigated. Just thought yall would like to know.
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