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 rustygumbo
 
posted on November 22, 2002 06:08:21 PM new
Ahh, finally caught someone in the act of stealing my photographs. The auction is currently up right now, and no doubt, it is my auction photographs, because I have the exact same photos that I have been using for months to list this very same item. Sooooo.... anyone have any experience with how ebay handles this problem?

I sent the seller a notice that my photographs are rightfully mine and requested that they remove the photographs. I also contacted ebay about it. My issue here is that I am an amateur photographer moving towards becoming a professional photographer. So, I am beginning to wonder if I should copyright all of my work anyways, even photos used for ebay auctions.

 
 askdaruma
 
posted on November 22, 2002 06:14:22 PM new
not much you can do,just take it as a compliment.

 
 roadieken
 
posted on November 22, 2002 06:16:14 PM new
><script language="JavaScript"> <!--
// No rightclick script v.2.5
// (c) 1998 barts1000
// [email protected]
// Don't delete this header!

var message="Sorry, that function is disabled.\n\nContents & Graphics Copyright İroadieken\nOur work is not Public Domain, and should NOT be taken from this site."; // Message for the alert box

// Don't edit below!

function click(e) {
if (document.all) {
if (event.button == 2) {
alert(message);
return false;
}
}
if (document.layers) {
if (e.which == 3) {
alert(message);
return false;
}
}
}
if (document.layers) {
document.captureEvents(Event.MOUSEDOWN);
}
document.onmousedown=click;
// --> </script>
<SCRIPT language=JavaScript>


var scrollCounter=0;
var scrollText="***Take a look at my other auctions! ~ ~ I gladly combine shipping!!***";
var scrollDelay =100;
var i=0;
while (i ++< 140)
scrollText=" " + scrollText;
function Scroller()
{
window.status=scrollText.substring(scrollCounter++,
scrollText.length);
if (scrollCounter == scrollText.length)
scrollCounter=0;
setTimeout("Scroller()", scrollDelay);
}
Scroller();


</SCRIPT>
<br>


 
 roadieken
 
posted on November 22, 2002 06:17:56 PM new
oops....Anyways, copy & paste the script above in your auctions. This will disable people from right clicking and stealing your auction pictures. Be sure to change the "roadieken" to your own eBay user ID.

Hope this helps!
[ edited by roadieken on Nov 22, 2002 06:18 PM ]
 
 bear1949
 
posted on November 22, 2002 07:13:45 PM new
Of if you don't wnat to do that. Edit the photos with whatever jpg editor (PaintShopPro or "etc" & add the comment:

Photo's property of XXXX, substituting your ID for xxxx

 
 eagleedc
 
posted on November 22, 2002 07:15:28 PM new
re no right click script,

That is the most anoying pointless script on ebay, next to that insane swirling mouse pointer. It does not protect your pictures because one can simply use the 'show source' function of a browser and find the URL of the image they want to steel. However it does prevent people from using many options they may normally use such as 'open in new window' and the like.

If you want to protect your images put a water mark on them. Personally I don't see the big deal about it, but you might start with a friendly email asking them to get thier own pictures.

Good luck,

-Eagleedc
 
 ahc3
 
posted on November 22, 2002 07:58:24 PM new
Is he linking it directly to your server, or did he save the pics. I've always wanted someone to steal and link to my server, boy would I have some fun.

 
 rustygumbo
 
posted on November 22, 2002 08:10:51 PM new
They apparently downloaded them to their computer and then reused them with their own system. I generally look the other way, but with every company out there protecting themselves against copyright infringement, it's about time I do the same. I pay for these photos through the time I spend setting them up, the background that i use, and the camera that I purchased. They should be sent a warning by ebay and have their item removed from auction without refund because of their own laziness and greed. I work too hard for someone to steal an image from me. I've had people try and use my feedback and id in their auctions as a means for buyers to check other items "they" have received feedback on. I'm not about to work for someone else to make money on the same items I sell.

 
 tooltimes
 
posted on November 23, 2002 12:34:17 AM new
You'll have to prove that they are your photos before ebay will even warn the other seller. Example, if you could prove that you were the owner of a website with photos that were also posted your auctions on ebay then you might have a case. Of course it would take ebay at least three days to investigate the matter and give out the warning out. And that warning wouldn't mean much as long as other sellers that had photos stolen by the same seller did not report him in the future. It's a lose/lose situation most of the time.

 
 mjh2
 
posted on November 23, 2002 02:15:15 AM new
This problem is discussed on this site constantly. I simply do not understand the gripe. Or I should say, I understand the gripe, but it seems silly and a bit naive from a business stand point.

Let me be a bit outspoken for the sake of argument. Someone's using your images. Big deal. It's called competition. Easier/cheaper is the name of the game. This is what capitalism is all about. He just out gunned you because now his costs are less than yours.

It's similar to the pizza chain that advertizes: "We accept all of our competitors coupons."

It is not stealing, it's business.

 
 Reamond
 
posted on November 23, 2002 01:55:02 PM new
It is copyright infringement and unfair trade practices to use someone else's original and creative commercial works.

However, the OP is right- you'll have to prove that the works are yours before eBay will do anything.


Some picture and auction page thieves have even turned in the actual owner to eBay for infringement/copying. eBay has no way of knowing who is telling the truth.

 
 ihula
 
posted on November 23, 2002 03:03:24 PM new
I also find the right click thing annoying. For example, there have been items that I want to "watch" through AW (not through ebay because I don't look in My Ebay often enought). If you use the disable right click feature I can't highlight the item number and paste it in AW so I can watch it close. Unless it's something I really want I won't find a piece of paper and copy the number down and retype it in AW - too much trouble. I know that sounds very lazy, but I do it quite often and writing down all those numbers is a pain - I'll just move on to another auction.

 
 imabride2b
 
posted on November 23, 2002 08:23:53 PM new
I think it's stealing. We take our own photos in our studio. We spend a lot of time pressing our (wedding)dresses. We also spend considerable time dressing the mannequin in hoop slips, crinolines etc. to look as if it is truly "wearing" the dress. In total, we probably spend an hour or more for each dress. It irks me when someone steals these photos.
What really get to me is when some writes me to ask if mine or auction XXXX is the "real" dress.
Competition is fine, but in my book it's not true competition if all you do is copy someone else's work.

 
 tooltimes
 
posted on November 23, 2002 10:22:44 PM new
You can imprint your name on your images. The name can be removed with imaging software but most sellers do not have the skill or will not take the time to do that.

One way many sellers imprint their name or website url or whatever on a photo is to create a clear transparency sheet with the desired information and then place the photo on top of that if they are using a scanner.

 
 intercraft
 
posted on November 24, 2002 12:00:32 AM new
You can also probably use a layer tag to put a transparent gif on top of the good picture, can even contain the watermark that was mentioned. This will stop the right-click bandits, but not much will stop a View source bandit...




 
 
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