barbkeith
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posted on December 28, 2002 05:31:15 PM new
Whilst perusing wall shelves I came across this auction 2084182579 and was just wondering. Is this legal?? Barb
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paws4God
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posted on December 28, 2002 05:37:07 PM new
I'm pretty sure you are not supposed to offer the bidder a choice.
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tooltimes
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posted on December 28, 2002 05:50:28 PM new
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewItem&item=2084182579
I just bought a shirt with a choice of sizes but this auction is like a store. 
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dadofstickboy
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posted on December 28, 2002 06:00:36 PM new
This won't last long.
Opening bid is more than he's selling for.
So he won't get any bids.
What he's doing is selling of Ebay.
They will not let it go on very long.
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FETISH128
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posted on December 28, 2002 07:38:10 PM new
No frickin' way....but so what,,I like the layout.
Whhhhhhiiiiiiip It,,,,,,Whip it GOOD!
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Twelvepole
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posted on December 28, 2002 09:31:52 PM new
LOL, I guess even with free listing; seller was too damn lazy to seperate the auctions.
Ain't Life Grand... 
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roadieken
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posted on December 28, 2002 11:18:11 PM new
Not to mention you can click on the 'buy now' button and buy outside of eBay....directly from the listing even!
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clarksville
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posted on December 28, 2002 11:31:01 PM new
Actually, someone will probably report it to eBay (if they haven't already). EBay will probably warn the seller.
It is against eBay's policy because the seller is giving the winning bidder options of what they receive.
tooltimes the auction that you won that the seller gave you a choice of size would be and is against eBay's policy.
[ edited by clarksville on Dec 28, 2002 11:33 PM ]
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Libra63
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posted on December 29, 2002 07:04:21 AM new
Maybe this isn't against eBays rules. He has a dutch auction going for 100 shelves. Listed are the options so maybe eBay will think twice because he isn't offering only one. This to me boderlines on iffy. Ebay will get their money no matter if he listed them this way or separate. This is just my opinion. I don't do dutch auctions so I don't know how eBay charges for listing. Only time will tell.
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tooltimes
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posted on December 29, 2002 08:48:34 AM new
tooltimes the auction that you won that the seller gave you a choice of size would be and is against eBay's policy.
I can see ebay's point that the seller would have to pay for 4 seperate auctions to list all the sizes available and they make 4 seperate listing fees. These auctions are very common on ebay and they will only pull them or warn the seller if ebay users report them. They are sort of like jaywalkers, an infraction of the rules but one the police rarely enforce.
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clarksville
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posted on December 29, 2002 11:35:23 AM new
"These auctions are very common on ebay and they will only pull them or warn the seller if ebay users report them. They are sort of like jaywalkers, an infraction of the rules but one the police rarely enforce."
Yes, I know this. It is still against eBay's policy.
[ edited by clarksville on Dec 29, 2002 11:36 AM ]
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rarriffle
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posted on December 29, 2002 01:54:03 PM new
Libra, there is nothing iffy about this auction, it is clearly against ebays rules about choice in auction, fee avoidance and link to a website. you have it all here!
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mattson2000
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posted on December 29, 2002 10:01:58 PM new
Dutch auctions are for multiple identical items, not a choice of different items except if they are identical items made in different colors. Then it would be a choice Dutch auction.
Choice Auctions
A Choice Listing occurs when a seller allows buyers to choose from a selection of items. Choice listings can be problematic because of potential for fee circumvention, transactions outside of eBay and other issues.
Exceptions:
(1)Listings may offer custom made items or services that are created or customized to the buyer’s specification such as made to order clothing. Other permitted examples include re-sizing of rings or personalized mailing labels. All offered options must be provided at no additional charge to the buyer. Choice of title in software, books, music or movies is not allowed. Choice of size in pre-made items is not allowed.
(2)Multiple quantity listings (Dutch auction, fixed price or store) may offer a choice of color in otherwise identical items. However, the seller must be able to fulfill the entire quantity of every listing in any offered color even if every winning bidder makes exactly the same color selection. It is not permissible to state “The highest bidder gets first choice.” Choice auctions may not be offered “subject to availability” or request the buyer to contact the seller to see which colors are available or what quantity is available. This exception for choice of color does not apply to single quantity listings.
That can be foud at: http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/png-list.html
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sparkz
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posted on December 29, 2002 10:25:34 PM new
One thing he may not realize is that there are yo-yo bidders out there that could construe his title and description to mean that they can buy everything pictured in that auction for a $20.00 bill. If one of these people spot that auction, he could have more trouble and grief on his hands than if Ebay nukes it.
The light at the end of the tunnel will turn out to be an oncoming train.
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