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 tomwiii
 
posted on March 4, 2003 11:01:24 AM new
I acquired a group of Sterling Silver & Silverplate spoons & have some questions:

1) What is the difference betweem "WM ROGERS & SONS" and "1847 ROGERS BROS?"

2) What does I/S mean?

3) Is this spoon 19th century? The font style looks like 1870's to me:











What category is best for this spoon?

THANKS!!

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 kiara
 
posted on March 4, 2003 11:44:17 AM new
Lots of Rogers Bros are here. I believe Wm. & Sons were part of the clan.

http://www.silvercollecting.com/silvermarksR.html

I/S is International silver or International silver plate.

The spoon was made in the 1900's, most likely early 1900's.

Category Antiques:Silver:Sterling

This is just my opinion.




[ edited by kiara on Mar 4, 2003 11:50 AM ]
 
 dcackerman
 
posted on March 4, 2003 11:51:54 AM new
After all this time on AW a question I might be able to help with. "Rogers Brothers can trace its beginning to the 1820's. They were a manufacturer of silver plate flatware and hollowware. Their most popular line perhaps was the 1847 Rogers Bros. flatware. The name Rogers Bros. was first used in 1847. In 1898, they became part of the International Silver Company. 1847 Rogers Bros Silver Plate is still being produced". (From) http://www.silvercollecting.com/silvermarksR.html). Hope this helps you out a little. Interesting site that with a bit of hunting has answered most of my questions on American Silver Companys. The pic is a bit confusing tho, Is that brass I see on the bottom of the spoon bowl? Im confused because the spoon is mark sterling. Well i hope i can orginize my thought better if i should try this again. don

 
 tomwiii
 
posted on March 4, 2003 11:54:24 AM new
Sorry, NO, that is just light reflection!

The spoon is marked STERLING -- does anybody recognize the "M & 2 BIRDIES" trademark?

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[ edited by tomwiii on Mar 4, 2003 11:56 AM ]
 
 tomwiii
 
posted on March 4, 2003 11:58:41 AM new
ALSO

Is "1910" a date or a designation of SILVERPLATE QUALITY?

THANKS! WOOF! THANKS!


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 fluffythewondercat
 
posted on March 4, 2003 02:06:16 PM new
The mark on the souvenir spoon is the Baker Manchester Mfg Co.

It's not really that relevant. Souvenir spoons are collected by subject. Courthouse (and school) spoons are pretty common, but do have collectors, like people who grew up in the area. Wear and condition affects value. I'd put it up for $1 and let it go.

There are well over a dozen different Rogers marks. Most are silverplate. If a US spoon isn't marked coin or sterling, chances are good it is plated. This is one of those common-sense issues. Silverplated ware was made to appeal to those who wanted the look of sterling without the expense, and sold to the masses.

As far as 1910 being an indicator of silverplate quality, no. Dates are usually referring to the patent. Various turn-of-the-century companies used phrases like "Quadruple Plate" to imply that the silver plating on their ware was much thicker than their competitors. It was strictly a marketing ploy and shouldn't be taken too seriously today. Silverplate is silverplate and no amount of wishing will turn it into sterling.

Since just about everyone can read "sterling" when an item is so marked, the savvy scrounger learns what other more obscure precious metal marks mean. Like 750 on a piece of gold-looking jewelry, or 800 on silverware, or even 56 next to a crowned head in profile. That's how you get to be ahead of the game.
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 sanmar
 
posted on March 4, 2003 02:17:04 PM new
According to info that I obtained, none of the Rogers cos. made sterling. There are none listed in Hagens "Sterling Flatware" 4th edition (1994)
[ edited by sanmar on Mar 4, 2003 02:17 PM ]
 
 Dragonmom
 
posted on March 4, 2003 02:31:34 PM new
When you list it, point out the grains of wheat and ears of corn on the handle- they are charming.
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 tomwiii
 
posted on March 4, 2003 02:56:39 PM new
THANK YOU ONE & ALL!


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 fluffythewondercat
 
posted on March 4, 2003 05:53:21 PM new
sanmar: Tere Hagan's book is NOT definitive, comprehensive or error-free. It's a place to start, but it leaves out a lot and gets some other things just plain wrong.

I had some Rogers sterling flatware ("Wedding Bells" a few years ago. There are other patterns as well, listed on eBay.

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 tomwiii
 
posted on March 7, 2003 03:48:31 AM new
Just sold for $29.99 BIN -- THANKS!


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