posted on April 4, 2003 05:21:54 AM new
This necklace was in a box of old jewelry I bought. I'd like to sell it because it doesn't fit in with what I collect. The problem is I'm not quite sure what to call it other than beaded necklace, which is too general. Does anyone have an idea if there is a name for this type of necklace? It's made with tiny little beads (one flawed area as you can see, but still pretty). Fluffy, if you're out there, might you know? Also, what era would you guess it is from? I want to be sure I describe it properly. Thanks!
posted on April 4, 2003 07:51:07 AM new
It's probably considered an Arts and Crafts necklace. No doubt made by a beader. But that doesn't make it any less valuable. It is a beautiful necklace. Alot of work has been put into this piece.
posted on April 4, 2003 09:31:14 AM new
Looks like seed beads maybe from the mid-seventies? I made a belt similar to this in about 1973...dating myself here. There is a tremendous amount of work involved in this type of beadwork. Isn't there a category in jewelry for artist's offerings or something like that. Since this was handmade it should do well. Even with the flaw it could be repaired at a reasonable cost, its just finding the person to do it.
posted on April 4, 2003 12:59:48 PM new
Hi
This is a split loom necklace, one possibility, or a square stitch necklace.
It could be 80's or '90's
Could be even contemporary!
Or it could be pretty old.
Boy am I help...sheesh...back to lurk mode!
It's hard to see the work, or the beads.
But it is very nice, and I am betting it's loomed.
Japerton
ps judging by the color scheme, without a close look at the beads I'd think later than earlier. They could be old beads, those are legit old colors, too...again...sorry for all the "help"
Here are close ups. It feels as though the beads are glass; the necklace has a good deal of weight and sparkle (like tiny rhinestones). Don't think it's contemporary. I'm more confused than ever. LOL
Cheryl
[ edited by CBlev65252 on Apr 4, 2003 01:11 PM ]
posted on April 4, 2003 06:08:42 PM new
Cheryl-The beads used in this beautiful necklace are called seed beads. As said probably done on a loom but beautiful. The length is what probably will tell you the years as pendants in the 60-70's were usually long. Now they are short. If it had an opening where the wide part is it would be an amlut bag but since it is closed it is just a necklace. There are a lot of bead artists out there.
posted on April 4, 2003 06:23:36 PM new
I remember seing necklaces worn like this in the 70's over what they used to call "priest" shirts and mu-mus (spelling?).
posted on April 4, 2003 07:11:36 PM new
70's? I'm an old 70's gal, but I don't remember these. Oh, oh, what was that stuff I smoked too much of back in the 60's and 70's? Must admit, most of the 70's are a blur. LOL. I do, however, remember naru jackets, hot pants, sizzle dresses (short, short dresses with matching underwear), bell bottoms (got my first pair in 1969), polyester, tiny little halter tops and platform shoes. Gee, sure wish I stil had all those things. I'd be sitting in the green right now. All your help on this necklace is appreciated. It really is pretty.
posted on April 5, 2003 12:09:59 PM new
I wish I was better at dating things based on designs.
The black beads look like cut beads. Those are called charlottes, which have been around for a long time.
The green and fuschia ones look like they may have been color lined. These are not old beads, but I can't really tell from the photo. So my guess is that it's not old.
Could be a mix of old and new beads.
But the sea green and fuschia beads LOOK color lined, paint lined, rather, and not solid. It is hard to tell, without a real clear close up.
I don't know the history of color lined beads, but it's later and I am thinking the Japanese started it.
Hmmm...time to do some homework!
Also I have no doubt that the necklace is all glass beads.
Good luck!
Japerton
ps you can tell it's loomed!
posted on April 5, 2003 05:28:42 PM new
It is a split loom necklace. These are still being made today. The patterns can be found in any craft book dealing with Indian
Beadwork. As to it's age, that is hard to say-they are still being sold at the Pow- Wows and I have made a similar (diffrent pattern) myself within the last year. Should be listed under American Indian beadwork or crafts.
Hope this helps a little.
J.C./bjaytraders
posted on April 5, 2003 06:14:28 PM new
buffalowoman
Wow, you made one of these? I can't imagine the work that must have gone into it. It must be gorgeous! I'm guessing 60's or 70's on this one. I know it's not too awful recent because I got the jewelry from a woman my mother's age (60's) who had no children. I just couldn't picture my mother wearing anything like this at that age. I would love to have one with a Native American theme, but no way could I afford it.
posted on April 6, 2003 03:23:45 PM new
I would guess as well 70's or later. I have been crafting for 45 years. The design looks comtemporary, so I do not think it is much older than that. Design is a rose and a rosebud. It is definitely NOT an American Indian artifact. Roses came from Europe and the design is just too contemporary.
Yes, a lot of hand work went into it but that may not raise it's value. I suspect that it was made by the former owner of the jewelry or given to her by a crafty friend or possibly purchased at a craft booth at a fair.
I doubt that it has much value. Sorry to dash your hopes, but it looks like the type of project one can buy at most any craft store thesedays.
posted on April 6, 2003 03:51:14 PM new
meadowlark:
I agree this is not an artifact. However, I have seen beaded roses on 1925 Chippewa Bandolier/ Sholder Bags. the native Americans incorporated a lot of designs that "came over on the Mayflower"
I also feel it is not that old-however if I were trying to sell it I would list it under American Indian Beadwork since these pieces can be bought at the Pow Wows. They do have a section for modern beadwork and crafts.
J.C./bjaytraders
I know it is not an artifact. I just wasn't sure how to describe it. Took a bit of what everyone said and posted it for $25 making sure to note that I did not know it's age or origin. It got a bid already. Considering I only paid about $.50 for it, that's not a bad return. I've seen very similar pieces selling for upwards of $200 on some sites. I know there are collectors out there for bead work. Since it's not what I collect, I thought I would offer it for someone who does collect beads and would love to have it. I'm more in to 50's and 60's costume jewelry sans beads.
buffalowoman
I, too, have seen beaded work done by Native Americans incorporating roses and the like. I know that they have done and continue to do designs that will appeal to other cultures. I've also seen it in some blanket designs. My ex-husband was part Cherokee (a fact my daughter takes great pride in) and his grandmother had some pieces that were done by her ancestors that were of more conventional design.
Thanks, Patty and buffalowoman! You, too, Japerton! You had me a bit confused for awhile, but I recovered. LOL.
Where do you find the most knowledgeable people around? On Vendio, of course. (Saves a lot of money on books, too.)
Cheryl
[ edited by CBlev65252 on Apr 6, 2003 04:50 PM ]
posted on April 6, 2003 06:22:21 PM new
Cheryl
Glad to hear you got it posted and have a bid on it. After all this what category did you use and how did you come up with a title?
posted on April 6, 2003 06:25:59 PM new
I actually posted it in vintage and used the word vintage in the title. Actually, it is considered vintage. You will find when posting in jewelry, vintage is the way to go. But, only if your item is truly vintage. I hate searching in vintage to find brand new pieces. I consider 1980's and earlier as vintage. Could be wrong, but hey, whatever works.
Cheryl