replaymedia
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posted on April 4, 2003 11:01:01 AM new
Hello all!
I generally don't pay much attention to feedback prior to the end of auctions. My ithems are relatively inexpensive, so if they don't follow through, I just do the NPB-FVF dance and it's over.
But I'm selling a laptop computer, which I expect to end around $1000, so this is a lot bigger than my usual sale.
I started it low last night, and it was up to $85 this morning. A few minutes ago, I noticed it had jumped up to $750 with one bidder.
Checking his feedback, I see he just registered on March 23 (zero feedback), and already has 14 bid retractions. I checked his other bids and he's currently high bidder on 17 other auctions of this same model laptop.
This has me worried if he's just bumping up the price only to be retracted later.
Should I cancel/block him or am I being paranoid?
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trai
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posted on April 4, 2003 11:06:19 AM new
Should I cancel/block him or am I being paranoid?
How brave do you feel? Thats way too many retractions. Sounds like they are shopping around for the best price.
Myself in this case I would cancel the bid, report them to ebay for abuse and block them from bidding on your auctions.[Email block also]
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Greengate
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posted on April 4, 2003 11:15:27 AM new
I agree with Trai, too many retractions. Most likely he/she doesn't understand that a bid is a contract since they are a "Newbie". Bidding on the same item means they are looking for the best buy.
Im not sure I would close the auction but if you decide to do that and repost with this persons bidding blocked it would at least eliminate a possible headache. In the next auction state no bids excepted from anyone with less than X number of feedbacks.
Greengate
[ edited by Greengate on Apr 4, 2003 11:17 AM ]
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Greengate
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posted on April 4, 2003 11:19:43 AM new
Did you set a "reserve" price on your auction?
Greengate
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neonmania
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posted on April 4, 2003 11:44:43 AM new
::Myself in this case I would cancel the bid, report them to ebay for abuse and block them from bidding on your auctions.[Email block also] ::
How exactly do you justify having Replay reporting them for abuse when they have donne nothing to Replay but bid on his item. Sometimes the advice given here scares me. The gestapo level of policing is a little overboard. Replay can and probably should cancel the bid but what catagory of abuse does this bidders action in Replays auction fall under .... Suspicious posibilty of future bid retraction? I don't think that is an offense.
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trai
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posted on April 4, 2003 12:00:46 PM new
Checking his feedback, I see he just registered on March 23 (zero feedback), and already has 14 bid retractions. I checked his other bids and he's currently high bidder on 17 other auctions of this same model laptop.
This is abuse in anyones book! Maybe you missed this part? 14 of them, even ebay would call this too much.
The gestapo level of policing is a little overboard. Replay can and probably should cancel the bid but what catagory of abuse does this come under?
Excess bid retractions! Gestapo levels? Get for real.
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shawnb1
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posted on April 4, 2003 12:23:56 PM new
I would like to retract my bod.
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neonmania
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posted on April 4, 2003 12:44:02 PM new
::This is abuse in anyones book! Maybe you missed this part? 14 of them, even ebay would call this too much. ::
Yes, but they hve not retracted the bid they placed on Replays item. Like I said, Replay should probably cancel the bid but if they have not retracted a bid placed on their item, how can he report the bidder?
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rarriffle
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posted on April 4, 2003 12:48:41 PM new
trai has given you great advice on all points. do the block bidder, cancel the bid and definitely report him for abuse. this guy is playing a dangerous game for all of us.
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trai
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posted on April 4, 2003 12:57:02 PM new
Yes, but they hve not retracted the bid they placed on Replays item.
Give them time, it will come.
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kiara
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posted on April 4, 2003 01:07:21 PM new
What are the chances that this happened to the bidder on 14 occasions in about one week's time?
It's OK to retract a bid if...
You accidentally entered a wrong bid amount. For instance, you bid $99.50 instead of $9.95.
(If this occurs, re-enter the correct bid amount immediately).
The description of an item you have bid on has changed significantly.
You cannot reach the seller. This means that you have tried calling the seller and his or her phone number doesn't work, or you have tried emailing a message to the seller and it comes back undeliverable.
http://pages.ebay.com/help/buyerguide/bidding-retract.html
We thoroughly investigate bid retractions, and abuse of this feature may result in the suspension of your eBay account. Bids retracted within the last 24 hours of a listing may be viewed as Bid Shielding, which is a serious violation of our policy.
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nanntique
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posted on April 4, 2003 01:09:31 PM new
If anyone has any good bod retraction methods, please let me know, as I have been trying (for many years) to retract parts of my bod.
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trai
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posted on April 4, 2003 01:12:36 PM new
I have been trying (for many years) to retract parts of my bod. 
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jnash
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posted on April 4, 2003 01:27:17 PM new
I'd think bod retractions would do well. Go a head and list a few. As to the
laptops I'd be reluctant to list any since there seems to be laptops all over
the place right now.
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replaymedia
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posted on April 4, 2003 01:54:40 PM new
OK, as a followup, I figured the guy was bidding on them all hoping for a lower price and wouldn't have paid if he HAD won. More likely he was just fishing for my reserve price.
So I Cancelled his bid and put him on my blocked bidders list. Not ten minuted later, I get an email
"Thanks for cancelling my bid, Jerk"
Oh well, my loss. I'll deal with it.
NOW my high bidder is a guy who just registered today and has zero feedback. Same guy? dunno. I think I'm gonna have to keep a careful eye on this auction.
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stonecold613
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posted on April 4, 2003 04:16:12 PM new
Sounds like to me that this person might be your competition. He/she is raising your price just so he can get a better price on his/her item(s). I would cancel the bid, block the ID and keep a close eye on this auction in the case he/she pops up with a new ID and bids it up again. In this case, I wouldn't let any newbies stay in the running.
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Twelvepole
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posted on April 4, 2003 04:25:32 PM new
You should of reported him, 14 bid retractions and still has sun glasses... definately abuse of the retraction...
Sorry this is happening, at least you have a reserve.
AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
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Libra63
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posted on April 4, 2003 05:55:19 PM new
Advice from up above. I would cancell the auction but before you do email the other bidders and tell them why. Then relist the item again and in your TOS say you will not accept any bids from bidderes with 10 or less feedbacks or excessive negative feedback. I hope you have a reserve on it.
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Libra63
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posted on April 4, 2003 05:55:20 PM new
Opps!!!!!!!!!
[ edited by Libra63 on Apr 4, 2003 05:56 PM ]
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sanmar
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posted on April 4, 2003 06:13:06 PM new
I agree with Libra. Please edit your filings, "bod"?
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replaymedia
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posted on April 4, 2003 06:33:06 PM new
Looks like the current bidders are basically legit.
Yes, I do have a reserve on it, but why does that matter in this case? I started it low, but obviously I don't want to sell it for $49.
Every other similar system has sold form $900-$1100 in the past, so I'm not too afraid of where it will end, I'm just more concerned with wasting two weeks with a screwy bidder before it sells.
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