Greengate
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posted on May 28, 2003 05:18:32 PM new
It was announced on the news this am that PayPal had been hacked and email addresses were the target. The report states that the accounts are intact however.
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neonmania
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posted on May 28, 2003 05:59:16 PM new
You would think that at least one of the news agencies would have picked up on it by now if it was reported this morning and yet nary a single news report to be found.
Have a link?
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horsey88
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posted on May 28, 2003 07:15:02 PM new
Hacked as in I gave them my password via a scam email and they used it.
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capotasto
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posted on May 28, 2003 07:22:56 PM new
LOL horsey!
When will they ever learn?
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kasue
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posted on May 28, 2003 08:52:21 PM new
That wasn't the Paypal email that was "PayPal Security Measures" in the subject line, was it? Wanting me to update all my information? The link started out http so I figured it was safe.
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neglus
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posted on May 28, 2003 09:42:36 PM new
THAT WAS A HOAX KASUE!!!!!!!!
I got one too and forwarded on to PP who confirmed it was a hoax.....the bad guys copied the PayPal signin page so it looked very official but IT WASNT!!!
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reddfoxx
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posted on May 29, 2003 05:33:23 AM new
kasue,
Never, never, never click a link to a site from an email and submit a password or personal information! Always enter a site via it's homepage by typing it in the address bar. (ex. www.Paypal.com or www.ebay.com)
ASAP, and I do mean yesterday, log on and change your Paypal password and notify Paypal so you can protect your account.
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kasue
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posted on May 29, 2003 05:56:01 AM new
Hold everything! It's okay. I filled the whole page out, but at the very bottom was this, "I have read and agree to the user agreement." Which made me mad. I have been stalling about re-signing with PayPal, and I figured it was a sly way to get us procrastinators to re-sign. It pissed me off so I just closed the window. Later I just figured, "Oh, what the hell." and when I was using paypal to pay someone, I just re-signed with them then. That page sure looked official. Just now I went back and clicked on the link that was provided by the hackers. It didn't start with http in the address window. I could have sworn yesterday that it did because I remember looking for it. Hmmmm.
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neglus
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posted on May 29, 2003 07:16:29 AM new
Kasue: I don't know if your email looked like mine, but the one I got had just the PP sign-in page on the front..then presumably after you sign in you get the second page asking for "security" information....if you "signed in" ( i didn't), you gave the bad guys your password!
I would go to PP NOW and change your password!
What you need to look for is "https" not just "http" but that is not enough! I'm sure that the bad guys can make their website secure too! You have to make sure that the web address is the valid paypal site: https://www.paypal.com/
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neonmania
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posted on May 29, 2003 09:03:35 AM new
Kasue - "http" is not what you are looking for to provide proof of legitamcy since that is the beginning of EVERY address : ). What you are looking for is the url of the site. Is it ebay.com or paypal.com - that is the important part. Look carefully too, mowt of the time the url is just numbers, sometimes it's a completely different word but I got one a few days ago where they address was ebayl.com - you have to really look. Also, don't check the URL shown in the email - that's easy to change - you want to check the email shown in the actual window that opens.
If you really want to be careful, don't click anything, just type the address given into a new window yourselff and on't be urprised to see that that page does not actually exist.
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horsey88
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posted on May 29, 2003 02:57:36 PM new
The scammers will continue to ask and the naive will continue to give.
I don't see which part,of "PAYPAL & EBAY will never ask for your personal information via an email",these folks don't understand.
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neglus
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posted on May 29, 2003 05:10:54 PM new
don't be so hard on them Horsey..the bad guys are getting smoother! I was on the lookout for some broken English email full of errors - the three I have gotten in the past few days absolutely look authentic because they copied the eBay and PayPal sign-in screen (anyone can do it DUH!)..if you move your mouse around all the links, they are authentic ebay/paypal links EXCEPT the all important "submit" button which does not show a link....just for fun i filled in a bunch of swear words as my user name and "hopeyougotojail" as my password and hit submit ..... by now the link was dead but was just a bunch of i/p numbers....
I was ALMOST fooled and i have a couple of thousand eBay transactions under my belt....I shudder to think of how many "newbies" and "part-timers" might get taken in...it just doesn't FEEL like eBay or PayPal are asking for passwords, they are just asking you to sign in!!!
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capotasto
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posted on May 29, 2003 05:24:14 PM new
"The scammers will continue to ask and the naive will continue to give."
We were all naive at one time, and unfortunately naive newbies continue to come along...
Sites and threads like this perform a public service in educating them. And us.
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horsey88
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posted on May 29, 2003 05:54:52 PM new
If you take the factual position that ALL emails requesting your personal information are scams how can you be almost fooled ??
I miss the basis of your argument,unless of course you are claiming a "naiveity exemption".
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neglus
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posted on May 29, 2003 06:30:20 PM new
I guess the point I am making is that the email, on the first page, does NOT ask for personal information but does say your eBay/PayPal account will be restricted unless you complete the "security measures"..you are instructed to sign-in on what appears to be the same page you sign in to every time you go to the real site...unsuspecting people might not see the red flags until it's too late because, of course, the password and user id have already been gleaned in the "signin" process.
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