kiara
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posted on May 31, 2003 11:12:32 AM new
Didn't eBay say that all those boxes within the auction that scroll with thousands of keywords can no longer be used?
No matter what you search for you get this seller's auctions. Only 9 feedback but he has obviously been selling for awhile to learn all these gimmicks.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2932036351&category=20924
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neglus
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posted on May 31, 2003 12:23:50 PM new
Wow! That is abuse! When I mentioned using "key words" in an earlier thread I didnt mean ANYTHING like this!! I meant to use words that validly applied to your item - this is craziness! Lots of the images in this listing have "red x's" - if the guy is such a pro, why is that? Maybe they "teach" you how to spam on the CD??
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zircon4
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posted on May 31, 2003 04:08:59 PM new
It has been pulled already. One of the keyword spammers that was mentioned here previously had 5300 words in his block of keywords. They are persisitent aren't they?
Cheers,
Adrian
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ebayauctionguy
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posted on May 31, 2003 10:26:41 PM new
Just wondering, did anyone reading this thread report the auction to ebay to get it pulled? If not, then there are probably some important ebay employees reading this board and they must have had it pulled.
If there are any ebay bigwigs reading this, how about some more ebay tv commercials?? And a free listing day would be nice too!
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kiara
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posted on May 31, 2003 10:55:22 PM new
I didn't report it but it got removed fairly quickly considering it's a weekend. Perhaps there had been other reports and they just got around to it today or maybe they do read here after all.
The seller relisted this afternoon without all the keywords.
The auction where the seller had almost the whole dictionary in his listing sat there for several days after it was on the board here and I didn't check it after that so don't know if ebay removed it or not.
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auctionace
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posted on May 31, 2003 11:07:36 PM new
They don't pull them very fast on weekends. The auction was probably reported a few days ago. The ebay search bots are getting better and better and they may have found the auction.
I do have a feeling that Meg and other ebay brass may spend a few minutes looking at ebay message boards every once in a while.
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kiara
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posted on May 31, 2003 11:30:04 PM new
This seller's auctions show up when I'm searching. If you scroll to the bottom of the page below where the template ends and just above the Shopmonkey logo and drag your mouse in there you will see the hidden words.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3523297177&category=14214
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tomwiii
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posted on June 1, 2003 06:05:19 AM new
hey! that's veeeery kewl!!
Ralphie loves Mr Blonde:
"Are you gonna bark all day little doggie, or are you gonna bite?"
http://tinyurl.com/5duz
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Helenjw
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posted on June 1, 2003 07:59:46 AM new
Although indirect, starting a topic here about a particular seller is a very effective way to "report" the "infamous". In my opinion, the seller should be notified before being discussed so that they will have a chance to correct their mistakes without possibly being embarrassed or losing their ability to sell on Ebay.
Helen
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Twelvepole
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posted on June 1, 2003 08:03:08 AM new
Didn't you know helen, as long as they are not posters here all is fair game... 
AIN'T LIFE GRAND... 
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Helenjw
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posted on June 1, 2003 08:34:53 AM new
Looks that way, Twelvepole. 
This seller had a feedback of only "9" when this thread was started. I can't agree that all sellers are fair game.
Helen
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ohmslucy
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posted on June 1, 2003 08:39:39 AM new
It's auctions like this that keep me from searching by description and I'm all for eBay tossing them, the sooner the better.
Sellers who use keywords correctly in their description but don't have room in their title are missing out because of the spammers.
Lucy
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kiara
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posted on June 1, 2003 08:44:09 AM new
So who should notify the seller? If I e-mail him and tell him that he's not obeying the rules but in the meantime he has been reported to ebay by someone else and his auctions get pulled, who is he going to blame?
I do numerous searches daily and if we all did keyword spamming it would drive many buyers away forever. Most of these sellers have been around for awhile and know exactly what they are doing. If they didn't think it was wrong they wouldn't be hiding their keywords.
Most will be warned by ebay several times before losing their ability to sell there. Sellers have been embarrassed by worse things on these boards than keyword spamming. I don't see anything in the user agreement about bringing auctions to the board but maybe I missed it.
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trai
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posted on June 1, 2003 08:49:07 AM new
The seller with 9 feedback had a very slick ad. He did not learn how to do that keyword spamming overnight so I think he was around for awhile.
I don't think he is a virgin. He is a cheat and is fair game.
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Helenjw
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posted on June 1, 2003 09:07:48 AM new
I am not saying that notification of seller before discussion is a policy that anyone is deliberately ignoring. It's just my opinion that the decent way to handle this kind of problem would be through email first....especially when it's a new seller. If he really knew what he was doing, he would use HTML to hide his words.
Helen
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trai
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posted on June 1, 2003 09:31:08 AM new
9 feedback does not necessarily make him a new seller. Most likely born again.
Those boxes of text with the keywords were used by high feedback sellers who sold those informational CDs. They didn't try to hide it and ebay cracked down on them for keyword spamming.
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Helenjw
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posted on June 1, 2003 09:44:02 AM new
A couple of years ago there was a problem with sellers who hid their keywords using white print so that the words were invisible yet they were picked up by the search engine. It seems to me like the work of an amateur to display boxes of text in your auction.
But Hey! What do I know...LOL!
Helen
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