posted on June 2, 2003 10:55:05 PM new
Hi gang, remember that bidder who raised the bid up on my item for 50 bucks, and 2 weeks later emails me
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hello,
i recently bought a dvd i still owe you money my user name is xxxxx on ebay. well the reason i am e-mailing u is that my wife just picked up the movie i won from u from another seller cheaper i am sorry that happened but i wont be able to buy the movie please email me back if there is a problem thank
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I checked and sure enough days before emailing me, bought the same item from a seller who had one for buy it now for 5 dollars cheaper. So i asked you guys what to do.
some of you said just file both parties and educate him, many said treat him like a deadbeat. Well I decided to be nice. BAD MISTAKE!I didnt file "both parties" yet, I emailed this letter to him
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Hi, just to let you know an auction is a binding contract and when you signed with ebays, you agreed to buy what you win. Some sellers might not be kind and file a complaint (NPB)against you, so please think twice before buying, ebays do have a unrefundable listing fee plus FVF to us sellers, and in order to get partial credit back, the FVF, I have to let ebays know you didnt sent the money, so it would be appriciative if you can maybe help out by paying at least for the listing fee of 1.10? I have kids and that money the item closed would sure come in handy in these times, and even paying for the listing fee and FVF lost would be appriciative, as I do not want to file NPB/FVF against you with ebays. . Please remember, some sellers will not be so kind and demand you pay up, so again please think twicew when winning an item"""
(By the wat, I did explain to him in detals what NPB and FVF is in another email)
then I get this email
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HEY,
I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR SAYING BUT DON'T SAY HOW YOUR GOING TO FEED YOUR KIDS BECAUSE IF I WOULD BUY YOUR ITEM IT WOULD ONLY PAY FOR A KI DZ MEAL SO DON'T PUT YOUR KIDS IN THIS K YOU CRACK ME P! SORRY AND DO WHAT U HAVE TO DO K
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Hmm, i didnt know kidsmeal costed 50 bucks! guess I should have listen to the majority of people here and treated him like a deadbeat, huh?
posted on June 3, 2003 02:50:11 AM new
JMHO but when you mentioned your children you stopped acting like a professional. it is what I call the "pity factor". this should never enter into a transaction as it can often sound insincere and backfire on you, which it did.
didn't your father ever tell you, "the nice guy finishes last"?
posted on June 3, 2003 04:40:50 AM new
He is both a jerk and an "or what". rarriffle is right, though, in the future (hope this never happens to you again, though) I wouldn't mention your kids. If he didn't care enough about your business to honor his bid, then he surely doesn't care about your kids. He's probably the kind that would take candy from a baby if he was hungry enough. Block him and be done with him. If he didn't want the item, he could have honored his bid and then re-sold the item. Paying your fees is the least he can do. Definately not an honorable man.
Cheryl
My religion is simple, my religion is kindness.
--Dalai Llama
posted on June 3, 2003 06:55:25 AM new
Never get personal, stick to the business facts & file on anyone that fails to follow through. If they do it once they will do it again.
posted on June 3, 2003 07:45:40 AM new
You know what gets on my nerves when it comes to a business transaction? People who replace you with u, who put a z on a word instead of an s, etc etc etc.
I can understand laziness (because I am) but, to me, that is just annoying.
As far as the subject at hand, I'd have to agree with everyone. File, block and forgot him.
posted on June 3, 2003 07:51:03 AM new
Deadbeat is a deadbeat, now write that down one hundred times and you will learn. File on this deadbeat and at least you will feel better.
Block their I.D. from your bidders list and the email also. I would rather file on them than get a $1.10 for the listing fee.
posted on June 3, 2003 08:21:28 AM new
I would also leave out the kids in the future as well. I also would go ahead and forget about the $1.10, it is not worth the trouble! I would file a NPB/FVF, NOT a mutual consent. Let this guy have a strike on him...
posted on June 3, 2003 09:23:08 AM new
I dug around to see if I could find the note I sent to my last deadbeat. I couldn't, but the gist of it was something like this:
I appreciate you letting me know you won't be purchasing the widget. However, as I previously mentioned, there are fees that are charged to me as a result of your bid. (This is why eBay informs you that your bid is a binding contract - they charge me whether you pay or not.) Those fees include $xxx listing fee, $xxx picture hosting and auction management fee and $xxx final value fee. Thus, as you can see, the very fact that you bid cost me money (unlike a store, where an owner is not charged every time a person picks a piece of merchandise up and then puts it down.)
If you will agree to reimburse me for these fees, I will be happy to file this transaction with eBay as "cancelled by mutual consent" which will not count against you. I will also agree that neither of us will leave feedback as a result of this transaction.
Please advise me what you want to do.
The actual notice was probably shorter, but you get the idea. I didn't make any appeals or threats, just said "Here's the deal, take it or not."
posted on June 3, 2003 12:45:59 PM new
I no longer send an email to a NPB, I wait 15 days, no payment, then I have eBay send an alert & then follow up with FVF if necessary.
If you get into an email war it often gets nasty & then the deadbeat has an opening to turn the blame on you & feel justified in not paying.
They respond much better when you let eBay do the talking.
Most all my deadbeats pay-up with an apology & a check when they get that eBay alert.
eBay will scare them, you won't.
posted on June 3, 2003 02:53:39 PM new
mcjane hit the nail on the head.
As a rule, I do not email and remind bidders concerning late and non-payments.
I let the eBay system automatically notify
and alert all bidders of any past-due
and non-payments.
Ebay automatically send emails (e.g., "Reminder To Pay Your eBay Seller" on the 10th calendar day from when my auction originally ended if payment is not received.
From past experiences, I try to stay out of it as much as possible.
