tomwiii
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posted on June 11, 2003 09:37:10 AM new
This was "liberated" by my Uncle during WWII 
WHAT do they call the pic in the bottom? Hold the stein up to the light & ya see this photo:
WHO is he? NOT the Kaiser, I'm pretty sure. Crown Prince, perhaps??
This stein is in fair condition with one 2cm repair at the rim & is made or portcelain + pewter + glass.
Dated 1901
Are these valuable at all??
THANKS!! THANKS!!
Ralphie loves Mr Blonde:
"Are you gonna bark all day little doggie, or are you gonna bite?"
http://tinyurl.com/5duz
[ edited by tomwiii on Jun 11, 2003 09:38 AM ]
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kiara
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posted on June 11, 2003 10:26:43 AM new
It's called a lithophane though some spell it lithopane as well.
Value depends on maker, subject matter, etc.
Sorry, I don't know who that fellow is except now I've got that whistling tune in my head again.... I Was Kaiser Bill's Batman.
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neglus
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posted on June 11, 2003 10:32:03 AM new
LOL Kiara..I never heard that song! but my great grandfather was his body guard.
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lattefor2
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posted on June 11, 2003 10:44:41 AM new
Hi Tom, LOl! Kiara I have never heard that song before either, but I read someplace the song most often sticks in our heads is the Chili's baby back ribs commercial.
Tom I use to concentrate a great deal on Breweriana mostly neons and signs, tins, etc, the stein you are showing I know as lithopane and they can sell for a nice sum, the ones that people requested were the ones where there was a figure or a profile of a woman. I hear the lidded ones are the most desirable. I have seen these sell at auction around the $90.00 to $100.00. I believe there is a stein with a child that is also desirable, I wish I could be of more help with the soldier.
reenie
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kiara
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posted on June 11, 2003 10:54:52 AM new
It was a popular tune in 1967 by Whistling Jack Smith...... a one hit wonder.
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inot
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posted on June 11, 2003 12:05:07 PM new
Tomwiii, I have a consingnor who is always coming across these and he gives me them to sell for him. I can't be sure from the picture you have provided, but it looks just like the ones he finds. Does it have blue painted decoration on the handle? They are not from 1901, they are reproduction, but older reproductions. I usually list them as ( in this case) "German REGIMENTAL Repro LITHOPANE Lidded STEIN". If there is a reference to a particular battle or war, I will add that if I have the room. Latte is correct, the most I have sold one for was $120.00, most go for right around $100.00.
Here's a tip...there are very recent reproductions being made...most of these will have a "risque" lithopane bottom. These are not as valuable.
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tomwiii
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posted on June 11, 2003 12:22:45 PM new
Did they make repros in Germany during the 30's & 40's?
We know this is from at least 1945, which is when my Uncle scoffed it up in Germany.
THANKS!!
Ralphie loves Mr Blonde:
"Are you gonna bark all day little doggie, or are you gonna bite?"
http://tinyurl.com/5duz
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inot
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posted on June 11, 2003 01:11:05 PM new
Tom,
they are considered to be "commerorative replicas" more than reproductions. Meaning they were not created to decieve the buyer.They all pay homage to either a great leader, branch of the military or a specific battle. There are US repro regimentals also. Most of these were brought over to the US by soldiers of the WW2 as souvenirs. When I listed my first stein for my consignor, I did not know this either. In error, I listed it as an 1890s stein. I received an email from someone from a collectors club, directing me to their web site, that's where I learned about these regimental "repros". That's what the collectors call them, so putting that in the title does not diminish the value. I am trying to locate that web site right now ( it was a looong time ago). If /when I find it I'll let you know.
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tomwiii
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posted on June 11, 2003 01:46:49 PM new
inot: THANK YOU!
Ralphie loves Mr Blonde:
"Are you gonna bark all day little doggie, or are you gonna bite?"
http://tinyurl.com/5duz
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dadofstickboy
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posted on June 11, 2003 01:52:35 PM new
To me it looks like: Lennon, before all the recent body work!
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inot
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posted on June 11, 2003 02:25:09 PM new
Hey Tom, my pleasure...anything for a fellow Cheltenhamian/Abingtonian. . I can't find the exact article I was looking for, but it was on the Steincollectors.org
web site...probably too long ago. Anyway, here is the link to the "ask a question" forum http://www.steincollectors.org/SteinTalk.htm
The lid of your stein is unusual, the steins I have come across with the pointed lid have been Austrian...but I am not an expert by any means, just relaying my past experience. You could always list it withour the repro...just as German Regimental stein. If it is a replica, I'm sure you'll hear about it from a collector!
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bigpeepa
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posted on June 11, 2003 06:08:33 PM new
Hi,
The patina on the pewter top looks too new to date back to 1901.
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tomwiii
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posted on June 12, 2003 05:19:45 PM new
inot: this Galloping Ghost says: THANKS!
Ralphie loves Mr Blonde:
"Are you gonna bark all day little doggie, or are you gonna bite?"
http://tinyurl.com/5duz
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trai
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posted on June 12, 2003 05:39:54 PM new
The picture might just be of prinze Eugene who was the crown prince in that time frame. [pre 1918]
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rarebourbon
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posted on June 13, 2003 03:35:09 PM new
It's Mad King Ludwig!
Check out the resemblance -- especially in the style of facial hair. He was crazy in a sweet kind of way.
http://www.german-way.com/german/ludwig.html
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rarebourbon
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posted on June 13, 2003 03:47:17 PM new
Here's another photo of Ludwig -- nearly identical to the "mug shot."
http://www-users.york.ac.uk/~sph2/spooky/images/ludwig3.jpg
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tomwiii
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posted on June 13, 2003 03:49:51 PM new
THANKEE!! ole whiskey-boy!
Ralphie loves Mr Blonde:
"Are you gonna bark all day little doggie, or are you gonna bite?"
http://tinyurl.com/5duz
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tomwiii
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posted on June 13, 2003 04:24:42 PM new
Hey!
THIS one is VERY similar:
http://tinyurl.com/e9y8
Ralphie loves Mr Blonde:
"Are you gonna bark all day little doggie, or are you gonna bite?"
http://tinyurl.com/5duz
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tomwiii
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posted on June 13, 2003 04:29:18 PM new
Ralphie loves Mr Blonde:
"Are you gonna bark all day little doggie, or are you gonna bite?"
http://tinyurl.com/5duz
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tomwiii
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posted on June 14, 2003 03:43:22 AM new
Do these pics of prism make a diff??
THANKEE!!!
Ralphie loves Mr Blonde:
"Are you gonna bark all day little doggie, or are you gonna bite?"
http://tinyurl.com/5duz
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tomwiii
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posted on June 22, 2003 07:00:48 PM new
Mine HUND Ralphie ist duing eine HAPPY DANCE over zie STEIN -- closeth at $102 & ve in da SAUERBRAUTEN NOW!!!
DANKE to mine fruends here!
Ralphie loves Mr Blonde:
"Are you gonna bark all day little doggie, or are you gonna bite?"
http://tinyurl.com/5duz
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neonmania
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posted on June 22, 2003 07:09:52 PM new
Congrats Tom.... and you too little Ralphie : )
Mario Andretti - “If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough.”
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stopwhining
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posted on June 22, 2003 07:11:16 PM new
you let it go at 102,you blank blank blank blank worthless dealer!!!!!!!!
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toasted36
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posted on June 23, 2003 03:40:00 AM new
Congrats Tom and Ralphie ! You can buy Ralphie a big bone now ! I think it well considering the big scar it had around the top edge....it's not going to be cheap to fix it.So you and HUND Ralphie keep duing eine HAPPY DANCE over zie STEIN
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tomwiii
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posted on June 28, 2003 09:19:57 AM new
inot: after reading this site, it appears that me stein WAS an original!
http://tinyurl.com/fi4p
Tis a rather confusing item to collect -- I'll stick with...
Monkey-Porn!!
Ralphie loves Mr Blonde:
"Are you gonna bark all day little doggie, or are you gonna bite?"
http://tinyurl.com/5duz
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inot
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posted on June 28, 2003 08:36:12 PM new
Hey Tom! That's the exact page I was looking for! Went to check out your listing just now..the pictures look much better than the ones you posted here...it was a beauty, lots of nice detail!
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sparkz
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posted on June 28, 2003 09:05:45 PM new
Tom... I sell a lot of steins. One word of advice, never pass up a good deal on any stein that has eye appeal to you and was made in Germany, Austria or Brazil. Grab them, sit on them until the first week of November and list them. They are very popular as Christmas gifts and 75% of your winning bidders will be women. Expect a lot of requests to ship to their place of employment or an address other than their home address, as they are trying to keep this a secret from their husbands. What doesn't sell before Christmas, relist on FLD or after Christmas. 90 % of the winning bidders on the relist will be men who are adding to their collections. The final selling prices and the sellthrough percentages in November and December are much higher (sometimes 100%) than during the other months.
The light at the end of the tunnel will turn out to be an oncoming train.
[ edited by sparkz on Jun 28, 2003 09:40 PM ]
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