paloma91
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posted on June 19, 2003 10:08:05 AM new
Is this item Anchor Hocking? I don't know if you can see it, but on the rim there is a little bubble in the glass.
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max40
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posted on June 19, 2003 10:38:37 AM new
Depression glass, Miss America, Hocking Glass Co, 1935-1938.
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TheFamilyBiz
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posted on June 19, 2003 10:45:41 AM new
It looks like you have a piece of Miss America from the Hocking Glass Company -- 1933-1937.
There's a piece that looks exactly like this on Pg. 79 of Gene Florence's 4th edition "Pocket Guide to Depression Glass."
There's also a whole section on being careful about reproductions for this pattern.
This is the first time I've been able to identify a piece with this book (new acquisition) -- so it looks like it's worthwhile.
Wayne
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toasted36
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posted on June 19, 2003 11:14:49 AM new
Heres a couple of pics and replacement.com prices
http://www.cyberattic.com/photo.cgi?key/34#ad
http://www.replacements.com/webquote/ahcmiap.htm
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neonmania
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posted on June 19, 2003 12:12:14 PM new
In my effort to learn a few things to eventually help my mother liquidatesome of her long stored and unused item, what is this piece called?
The closest I could see on the Replacements list would be a sugar bowl but the stem makes me think it is somthing not listed... or is it the candy dish (again the stem is throwing me off).
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neonmania
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posted on June 19, 2003 12:13:31 PM new
In my effort to learn a few things to eventually help my mother liquidatesome of her long stored and unused item, what is this piece called?
The closest I could see on the Replacements list would be a sugar bowl but the stem makes me think it is somthing not listed... or is it the candy dish (again the stem is throwing me off).
Mario Andretti - “If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough.”
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max40
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posted on June 19, 2003 12:33:51 PM new
It's a sugar bowl.
There is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
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paloma91
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posted on June 19, 2003 12:36:33 PM new
Neomania, I was having the same problem. Thanks Max! Again, I don't know what I would do without you guys.
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jensmome
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posted on June 19, 2003 12:40:29 PM new
Neon,
It's a sugar. It's seen on page 126 of Gene Florence's Collector's Encyclopedia of Depression Glass, 14th Ed.. He lists a BV of $22. Warman's has a BV of $24 for it. It has been reproduced. However, your color looks right. The newer ones have a funny tint.
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paloma91
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posted on June 19, 2003 12:49:10 PM new
Jensmome, Thanks. My friend always brags about being an antique expert told me it was a copy. The color in the foto listed here is the exact color of the item. by BV, do you mean bidville? I listed it on ebay for $9.00. Do you think that is too high?
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jensmome
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posted on June 19, 2003 01:02:03 PM new
Paloma,
BV is book value. You'll almost never get book on eBay. I sell primarily glass and this is a bad time of year for it. I don't think your price is unreasonable at all. If it doesn't sell, just hang on to it for the Fall.
The other thing about repros in Miss America is the size but I can't find any reference that says what it is, real or fake. This will sound strange but a lot of glass dealers can tell a repro from the feel. It has a greasy feel. Plus you know where this came from so you have a bit of a provenance.
Good luck.
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Libra63
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posted on June 19, 2003 08:25:16 PM new
If you have a depression glass book they always give the height of the piece. If it varies from that it is a reproduction. That is what I was told. So always measure you piece.
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paloma91
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posted on June 19, 2003 09:53:35 PM new
Stands about 4 inches tall and about 3 1/2 inches across the rim
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jensmome
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posted on June 20, 2003 03:45:06 AM new
Libra,
Gene Florence, Warman's and Mauzy's all do not give the height either in the listing or the reproduction discussion. And I'm talking about the big books, not the pocket guides. These books are considered the best sources for depression glass.
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max40
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posted on June 20, 2003 09:26:09 AM new
Florence, Warman's leave alot to be desired for completeness, picture quality and description.
Gene Florence is only interested in selling books, and as long as people are willing to spend good money on them, he'll keep producing them.
The quality of reference books has been a sore spot with me for years!
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jensmome
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posted on June 20, 2003 10:02:57 AM new
So what book gives the height of the Miss America sugar?
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max40
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posted on June 20, 2003 10:15:10 AM new
Beats me.
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AuctionAce
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posted on June 20, 2003 10:46:30 AM new
I'm interested in seeing if this is an original or reproducded sugar bowl. I love learning stuff here and this thread has left me hanging.  And what about the bubble on the rim of the item that was mentioned in the first post. Does that affect the value or is it considered a normal manufacturing minor flaw?
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jensmome
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posted on June 20, 2003 11:49:36 AM new
I seriously doubt that this is a reproduction. First, because of the provenance. It was Paloma's mother's and it was in storage. Repros for this pattern and color could not have been "long stored". They are a fairly recent phenomena. Second, the repros rarely have bubbles. And lastly because the color on this looks correct. A lot of pink repros have a faintly bluish tinge. Another way to tell repros generally is the thickness of the glass and the crispness of the pattern. As I mentioned before, people who are familiar with glass can tell by feel. Repros feel greasy. Plus some patterns were never made in colors that have been reproduced. For instance, Miss America was never made in cobalt.
Bubbles in depression glass are not a problem. They are pretty common. You do need to note any that are very noticable or broken.
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