fluffythewondercat
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posted on June 29, 2003 06:50:32 AM new
Other countries don't always share our obsession with child safety, so I was intrigued when I found this "tile pictures" game at a garage sale some weeks ago. It was made in England, heaven knows when. There's a very nice not-plastic hammer, lots of very sharp little nails, brightly-colored geometric wood pieces and a thick piece of particle board to nail them to.
It's so politically incorrect it makes me smile.
Interestingly, other than some specific examples eBay does not seem to have a prohibition against selling toys that don't conform to U.S. child safety laws.
I could have sworn that lawn darts were prohibited on eBay but could not find a reference for this in the Prohibited and Restricted Items list. Indeed, there's a lawn darts auction:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3137020279&category=234
I think the disclaimers are a good idea. Comments?
I am not hotcupoftea on Vendio.
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maggielane
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posted on June 29, 2003 06:58:20 AM new
I go to an auction every week, and they had some lawn darts but would not sell them becuase it was not legal for them to do so. I don't think it is just an Ebay rule.
"For I know the plans I have for you." says the Lord. "They are plans for good and not for disaster, to give you a future and a hope." - Jeremiah 29:11
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tomwiii
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posted on June 29, 2003 07:03:07 AM new
It is eBay's rule, because it is ILLEGAL to sell LAWN DARTS in the USA!
Pretty petty, in my view -- bunch of old biddies crying over metal spikes driven into numerous kids heads!
Bet those kids learned a lesson!
Ralphie loves Mr Blonde:
"Are you gonna bark all day little doggie, or are you gonna bite?"
http://tinyurl.com/5duz
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Libra63
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posted on June 29, 2003 07:04:26 AM new
Lawn Darts - Jarts were pulled from the USA market because of the danger in them. That is why they can't be sold. It was only listed late last night and I would probably think a red flag would come up somewhere is Ebay and that auction will be pulled. Following is a thread that talks about them.
http://www.vendio.com/mesg/read.html?num=2&id=461796&thread=461364
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on June 29, 2003 07:12:03 AM new
OK, finally remembered. It's the Consumer Product Safety Commission that regulates such things. And you are correct: It is illegal to sell lawn darts with elongated tips. Not all lawn darts have such, but I think the ones being offered in the auction qualify.
There's no specific recall for this tile pictures product, which is probably the result of it being 1) vintage and 2) produced elsewhere in the world and not marketed in the U.S.
I bought it from an English lady so she probably brought it over with her.
I am not hotcupoftea on Vendio.
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tomwiii
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posted on June 29, 2003 07:12:10 AM new
http://www.cpsc.gov/CPSCPUB/PUBS/darts.pdf
Sell them & feed a lawyer!
or, as feeBay says:
Recalled Items
eBay strongly supports the efforts of the U.S. Consumer Products Safety Commission (CPSC) to protect consumers against potentially hazardous goods. The CPSC, an independent federal regulatory agency, protects consumers by issuing warnings about goods that might be hazardous, and even issuing recalls of certain products. Items that have been the subject of CPSC action include lawn darts, baby products (such as defective cribs, infant carriers, and car seats), propane heaters, and thousands of other products."
Ralphie loves Mr Blonde:
"Are you gonna bark all day little doggie, or are you gonna bite?"
http://tinyurl.com/5duz
[ edited by tomwiii on Jun 29, 2003 07:12 AM ]
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CBlev65252
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posted on June 29, 2003 07:16:48 AM new
I personally would never own lawn darts (jarts) because I have had small children and now I have a small granddaughter. I consider myself a responsible parent. But, I don't necessarily think this is fair for adults that have no children or whose children are grown. I would much rather seem some of the smut outlawed on ebay (speaking of those selling hardware in their underwear. LOL!}. Assuming that all adults are irresponsible doesn't seem quite fair to me.
Cheryl
My religion is simple, my religion is kindness.
--Dalai Llama
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on June 29, 2003 07:18:12 AM new
The reference I saw was three child deaths attributed to a lawn dart penetrating the skull.
Pretty horrific, until you realize that every year more than 200 women in this country kill their children.
Homicide is the leading cause of death in children under four, not lawn darts.
Where's the outrage, I wonder...
I am not hotcupoftea on Vendio.
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Twelvepole
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posted on June 29, 2003 07:23:51 AM new
No fluffy, those women are "saving" their babies from the evils of Lawn jarts...
AIN'T LIFE GRAND... 
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tomwiii
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posted on June 29, 2003 07:39:48 AM new
outlaw women?? Seems reasonable to me!
Ralphie loves Mr Blonde:
"Are you gonna bark all day little doggie, or are you gonna bite?"
http://tinyurl.com/5duz
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tomwiii
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posted on June 29, 2003 07:41:36 AM new
"...some of the smut outlawed on ebay (speaking of those selling hardware in their underwear..."
THANK GOODNESS it ain't software!
Ralphie loves Mr Blonde:
"Are you gonna bark all day little doggie, or are you gonna bite?"
http://tinyurl.com/5duz
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replaymedia
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posted on June 29, 2003 08:29:22 AM new
"THANK GOODNESS it ain't software!"
Remeber the old 5-1/4" floppy disks with the hole in the middle? Think of the photo possibilities!
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tomwiii
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posted on June 29, 2003 08:37:35 AM new
The very concept of "floppy", gives me the willies!
 
Ralphie loves Mr Blonde:
"Are you gonna bark all day little doggie, or are you gonna bite?"
http://tinyurl.com/5duz
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Twelvepole
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posted on June 29, 2003 08:59:39 AM new
AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
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jake
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posted on June 29, 2003 07:56:30 PM new
"Selling dangerous toys"
It ain't the toys that are dangerous, it's the idiots that don't know how to use them properly. Almost any product could be considered "unsafe" if used in the wrong way. Stupid parents need to watch their kids.
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AuctionAce
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posted on June 29, 2003 08:05:43 PM new
There have been numerous threads here about Jarts over the years. The one post that really got my attention was the guy that bought the Jarts sets at garage sales and listed them on Yahoo Auctions for $50 and they always sold before Yahoo could pull them.
Where there's a will there's a way.
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capotasto
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posted on June 30, 2003 03:54:16 AM new
I listed a nice vintage set of Jarts last year.
I got a bid and some views, then Ebay pulled it within a day.
Then one of the viewers contacted me with a nice offer, and I sold the set to him.
Ebay did me a favor, no final value fee!
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CBlev65252
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posted on June 30, 2003 04:31:13 AM new
Remember:
Your government knows what's best for you.
You must be protected from your freedom of choice.
Our home . . . is your home and yours and yours and yours, too.
Ladies, in the interest of national security be prepared to strip. Always wear clean underwear. A little bit of Victoria's Secret underneath wouldn't hurt.
Don't discuss the burning you-know-what in the Bible. We know what you really mean.
The Canadians are trying to poison you. We will protect you. We will not allow their medicine here.
And whatever you do DO NOT PLAY WITH JARTS. You could poke your eye out.
News flash: I already have a mother. Big brother? Don't think so. Try Big Mama.
Ebay for some reason only they know, chooses to conform to every political, environmental, and civil rights groups out there. Pretty soon all you'll be able to sell is. . .well nothing.
Cheryl
My religion is simple, my religion is kindness.
--Dalai Llama
[ edited by CBlev65252 on Jun 30, 2003 04:33 AM ]
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Libra63
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posted on June 30, 2003 06:52:20 AM new
Opps they're gone.........
Cheryl, not everyone is as smart as the posters in Vendio and someone somewhere has to protect them. Now take this seller the disclaimer means nothing. When they listed this item they knew they were banned but still did it anyway. Remember McDonalds Coffee. Now aren't we smart enough to know coffee is hot. Jurors awarded that person a very large sum of money because McDonalds made hot coffee.. 13 stupid people right there.
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koto1
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posted on June 30, 2003 09:21:40 AM new
It's pretty much a joke. I like how it's become the government's job to protect stupid people from themselves. Might as well ban sharp scissors as well.
"Who's tending the bar?  Sniping works up a thirst"
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paloma91
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posted on June 30, 2003 10:52:20 AM new
Is it illegal to own these things? Or this a child safety issue?
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neonmania
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posted on June 30, 2003 10:56:40 AM new
You can own them, just not sell them.
Mario Andretti - “If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough.”
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koto1
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posted on June 30, 2003 10:56:42 AM new
You cannot sell them because they are a recalled item, due to injuries that children have received in the past. I do not believe it is illegal to own them however. I mean, how would it be enforced? Home to home inspections?
Of course, in this day and age, I wouldn't put it past them.
"Who's tending the bar? Sniping works up a thirst"
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