paloma91
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posted on August 3, 2003 07:49:04 PM new
Here is another finding from the same estate sale. It reminds me of the one my grandmother gave me that she pulled out of ashes during the 1906 earthquake. It too is ceramic bisque? Has a slightly rougher Feel than grandma's does. No markings anywhere to tell who made it. I should sell it but I really would like to keep it. What do you think? Old or new from chinatown?
[ edited by paloma91 on Aug 3, 2003 08:08 PM ]
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Libra63
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posted on August 3, 2003 08:04:26 PM new
I think it's Lefton? Angels were a hot seller awhile ago. They are really pretty. Not from China for sure. We have a pair right now on our dining room table that my husband picked up for 25 cents a piece and they say Made in Japan but they are beautiful.
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paloma91
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posted on August 3, 2003 08:13:19 PM new
You think Lefton?!! Hummm wouldnt that be nice. I swear, I have checked all over this piece and can't find a darn mark on it.
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Libra63
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posted on August 3, 2003 09:00:06 PM new
The ones that my husband bought have a paper sticker on Made in Japan and nothing else. Remember Lefton was made in Japan. Lots of angel collectors out there. I sold a pair of lefton angels for $60.00 but that was back when people appreciated fine items. They are keepers in my book...
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rarriffle
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posted on August 4, 2003 02:13:18 AM new
if they are very rough to the touch, they may be new pieces. angels came back into vogue with "Touched by an Angel" tv series and you can find them everywhere. without a mark you are pretty much at a loss on description of maker.
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CBlev65252
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posted on August 4, 2003 04:31:42 AM new
Old porcelain will be smooth to the touch. Is there no paint wear anywhere? If they're as old as 1906 and there is absolutely no paint wear, they'd be pretty dirty (IMO). My grandmother, too, had figurines on the order of this (my mom has them now). They are smooth to the touch and there is slight paint wear here and there from normal cleaning. Also, hers had no gold anywhere. Still, without a mark. . .could be anything. I'm a lot of help, sorry!
Cheryl
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Dragonmom
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posted on August 4, 2003 06:25:58 AM new
I think these little sweeties are brand new. I saw some like them at a local imports store. The new bisque stuff is rough to the touch, because sanding it first is too labor-intensive even for the Chiniese factories. Your pair have such a sweet expression in their eyes!
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AuctionAce
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posted on August 4, 2003 10:16:21 AM new
They look brand new to me too. The little import stores have shelf and after shelf full of angel figurines and most are priced under $3.95. The Asian mass manufacturers are quick to spot buying preferences and trends and promptly flood the market with items.
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CBlev65252
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posted on August 4, 2003 10:28:22 AM new
Another way to tell is from the quality of the painting and the colors used. The wings look haphazzard to me. Also the flowers in their hands would be more finely done (with highlighting and such). I base my opinions largely on old oriental figurines. You can tell the new from the old by colors, technique and wear. Things are more massed produced today and they lose something in the quality by that.
Still, they are sweet and I'd probably keep them. I have an angel collection at home. Most are new and I love them all. Once you tell anyone you like something (angels for example) you get one for each and every birthday and holiday. I once told someone I liked cows (back in the early '80's). I now have a kitchen full of cows. 
Cheryl
Power to the people. Power to the people, right on. - John Lennon
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fenix03
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posted on August 4, 2003 11:10:26 AM new
LOL Cheryl! I was just joking with my mother about her elephant collection. She started when she was in high school so you can imagine how many elephants she has. She took a couple to work for her office and from then on she not only got them from family and friends but also from the people in her department. Most of her collection is now in boxes, when she gets tired of the ones he has displayed, she packs them away and unpacks some of the older ones but the family has now been warned that unless it's very unique or somehow special there is a moritorium on elephants.
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aintrichyet
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posted on August 5, 2003 03:35:57 AM new
Whoa!!! Paloma!!! I swear you would think we went to the same estate sale !!, except the one i went to was a couple months ago ... my mouth dropped open when i saw your angel here because i ALSO bought two angel wall plaques in your EXACT same style at the SAME estate sale I bought the yellow crystal tray w/ small bowl at!!!!!!!!!!! LOL ... eerie!
The bisque angels, I have sold one at ebay a couple months ago [that's when I bought all these], and I still have one left I will post a picture here in a day or two ... it is at the antique shop and i'm at home right now ... both my angels had/have orig. label and i'm getting old with poor memory but I believe it is the silver & white Napcoware label... as i said, i promise to post a picture of her here in a day or two ... the one i sold already at ebay went for 9.99 ... the other one i hung onto because i'm thinking about maybe giving it to my Mom, who collects angels [her whole condo is decorated in gold and blue and angels] ... these are really beautiful angels, and i feel they are quite well done ... I'm guessing the age is not 'antique' but surely not brand new ... they have on the backside the label [as i said i think it's napcoware], and a small hole to hang them on the wall ... I will retrieve mine from the shop next trip over there and post a picture of her front and back here ...
Marcia AintRichYet
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paloma91
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posted on August 5, 2003 08:21:44 AM new
Marcia, that is so sweet of you to take the time to take all these fotos and post them just to help me out and to educate me. (smile) Thanks so much. You have your own antique store! Where is it located? What state?
I should pull out my grandma's statue and take a foto of that so you can see what I mean. I'll try to do that later on today to. I wouldnt part with that piece for love or money. one of the only connections I have left to her.
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aintrichyet
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posted on August 5, 2003 06:50:36 PM new
hi Paloma ... the antique shop is here near Akron Ohio area but it's not got the 'open' sign hanging on it anymore ... too much crime creeping into the neighborhood there the last few years ... we just sell on internet and at local antique mall ... inherited this all from dad-in-law but we AintRichYet ... still have a very patient bro-in-law to raise a lot of bucks for his share of estate ....
i'll get that little angel fromt he shop tomorrow ... ~
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aintrichyet
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posted on August 6, 2003 03:33:56 PM new
tada!!! [i read cheryl's thread showing how to get a photo to show up ... now i don't need Ralphie anymore!!! LOL]
yep, National Potteries Co. label on these pretty angels ... at the estate sale i got this at, there were several angels in this 'style', most were holding a musical instrument, a this one was holding some rosettes ...
hope this works ...
edited to add, i'm dumbfounded why the first one's not showing up ... it's at http://members.aol.com/porfere/angel1.jpg
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aintrichyet
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posted on August 6, 2003 03:37:10 PM new
HELP Ralphie HELP! woof woof!
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kiara
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posted on August 6, 2003 03:46:08 PM new
I think Tom left Ralphie over in my babbling thread. 
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aintrichyet
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posted on August 6, 2003 03:47:36 PM new
LOL... THANK YOU, Kiara!!! what did i do wrong?
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