posted on August 16, 2003 01:27:28 PM new
I am still getting shut down by the so called "worm" about 5-10 times a day. I DID download the patch. Is anyone else still getting plauged with this worm??
posted on August 16, 2003 04:26:13 PM new
tomwiii,
Not true! I have used both platform for years and I can say with total conviction that the Mac is NOT the rotten one.
I'll bet Raphie would have the good taste to pick the Mac if he needed a computer. -----o----o----o----o----o----o----o----o
The illiterate of the future will be the person ignorant of the use of the camera as well as of the pen.
Maholy-Nagy, Vision in Motion, 1947
posted on August 16, 2003 04:26:25 PM new
Thank God I have Windows 98. I might not have all the things that go with the later version but I don't have the worm.....
posted on August 16, 2003 04:50:01 PM new
Tom - most people fear the Mac because it is something different. What few realise is that Windows is a cheap and unsuccessful attempt to duplicate the Mac operating system. It is buggy as hell, inconsistant and genreally oconfusing and convoluted.
Mac was the computer of choice until PCs became the cheaper solution. What most peeple fail to realize is that a lot of that is because there is NO QUALITY CONTROL with PCs. There is no guarantee that that new harddrive, videocard, etc will actually work with the other existing compnents of your computer.
Apple does not allow their logo on packaging unless the product is compatible with all other Apple compatible components.
I've worked on Macs for nearly 20 years. I've never bought a single piece of hardware that was incompatiple and I've never had a single virus. Also, please not that for high end production work such as video editing and graphics, it is Mac which is the industry standard. Real users know a real computer when they use it.
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posted on August 16, 2003 05:00:30 PM new
I've used a Mac and didn't like it at all. I guess it's a matter of personal preference. It's only a matter of time before a virus does hit the Mac. I started out on the old DOS programs and still I find those easier to use.
To each his own.
Cheryl
Power to the people. Power to the people, right on. - John Lennon
posted on August 16, 2003 05:35:13 PM new
It really is a matter of personal preference. But I can't help but wonder what prompts Windows users to respond so emotionally to Macintosh, given the opportunity...could it just be a tiny bit of jealousy ? Why would they get so worked up hateing an OS that has such a teeny piece of the market otherwise? Could it just be a bit of bitterness for having swallowed the tired old Beta/VHS argument, only to find themselves saddled with a system that requires so many updates and craps out so often? If you had a new car that had to go into the shop every few weeks because it's brakes were recalled,and you ran the risk of losing your life if you didn't repair it, would you continue driving it and extolling it's virtues, and jump at the chance to to tell drivers of other makes that their cars "suck" and the company who makes them is "going broke"? If you did, you'd be a fool. Regarding this blaster thing, the simple fact is, if you use windows, you're at risk, now, and the next time, and the next time... and if you use any form of Linux, or Unix, including Mac, you have NOTHING to worry about.
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posted on August 16, 2003 05:39:52 PM new
Wanted to add...I use both systems at home and at work. We have a PC at home which gets along fine with our home Macs. The Macs operate under Macintosh OS X, but also have Windows XP Pro installed, for no particular reason other than because they CAN
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posted on August 16, 2003 07:46:03 PM newnobody made software for it & nobody does for the MAC now!
your argument is specious and dates all the way back to the last time you used a mac. By nobody I'm guessing you don't include titles like these:
Adobe Acrobat
Adobe Illustrator 10
Adobe Photoshop 7.0
AOL
Civilization III
Easy CD Creator/Toast 5
FileMaker Pro
Microsoft Excel
Microsoft PowerPoint
Microsoft Word
Norton Utilities
Quake III
Quicken 2003
QuickTime Player
Windows Media Player
Just a few of the thousands of mainstream apps that run native in Mac OS X. In fact, there are more applications native to OS X than are produced for Win XP, and many of them are low/no cost due to OSX's open source base.
you can, if you care to actually know something about Mac software, go look at a lot of the apps here:
posted on August 16, 2003 10:04:43 PM new
::Yeah,Yeah, but just about everything I play with says: "MAC not supported -- we be working on it maybe in da future!" ::
Well, if you kept your playing on a game system and used your computer for work it would be a different story.
As for your prediction, I have a hard time taking it quite seriously from someone who relies on programs that use slang in their messages.
Why in the world do you believe that Apple digress their operating platform? Windows is a joke. If you want to use it great, have a blast, but don't pretend it is ever going to be considered a stable standardized platform just because you use it.
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posted on August 17, 2003 07:21:36 AM new
A Google search field is built-in to Macintosh OS X's internet browser called Safari...it's part of the code, you don't have to download,install or configure anything.The browser itself can be configured to perform most of the other tricks the google toolbar does, most notably blocking pop-ups. I haven't seen a pop up in over a year. Here's a screen shot:
To further edify you, here is a clip from an old review of Safari (while still in beta) from PC Magazine, which, as I'm sure you know, rarely reviews Mac software or hardware:
To clock Safari, we used i-Bench 4.0, a benchmark tool for browsers that tests how long loading a series of pages takes. Safari outperformed IE on the Java Script portion of i-Bench, which measures the computers' ability to handle embedded Javascript, such as page redirects, validating an order form, and sorting an array of numbers. More importantly, in our hands-on experience Safari felt faster than IE; pages seemed to load more quickly, and the entire surfing experience felt more fluid. Speed is the main reason to try Safari, but the product also introduces several eyebrow-raising innovations. Our favorite is the intelligent pop-up window stopper. Activated easily by going to the first pull-down menu (labeled Safari), the option worked flawlessly in our tests, stopping all ad-sponsored pop-up windows, but allowing legitimate ones.
Newsrover is unavailable for Macintosh. So what, there are lots of Mac apps that are not available for windows, but that doesn't mean there aren't plenty of others that perform the same tasks. A quick search at VersionTracker.com using the word "newsgroup" yielded the following list of available downloads for OS X.
Versiontracker is a great place to browse through the almost mind boggling assortment of applications created for OS X, and yes, they have a windows section too.
You might have heard of the iTunes music store. It is a legal music downloading service which has become the most successful service of it's kind in the history of the net. It is directly accessed thru iTunes, which is the Music cataloging/disk burning software which comes as part of the OS X system. Since it's inception less than 6 months ago, the iTunes Music Store has sold more than 5 million singles and albums, beating out every other legal online mp3 type download service, most of which have been in business far longer (except for buymusic.com, which only works for Windows IE, and is a lame, barely usable ripoff of the iTunes store). Sadly, the iTunes music store can at present only be accessed by Macintosh OS X users of the iTunes program. Apple is developing an iTunes Music Store application for Windows, but those users will undoubtedly have to pay for it, then install and configure it on their win-tel boxes
While it seems to you like there isn't any software for Mac, there in fact is tons. Apple is alive and well and better than ever. Market share is not everything. I for one would not want to see Apple take M$'s place in market share.I don't hear Chevy drivers claiming there are no BMW accessories, just because of it's small market share. Apple is selling computers to a key niche market and developing applications and hardware (iPod, the industry standard MP3 player, available for Windows) for users of other platforms. The open source community has enthusiastically embraced OS X for the rock solid Unix based platform it is and is falling all over itself to develop applications for it.WindowsXP, while certainly the most stable version of Windows I've ever used, is still a buggy, tattle-tale non-Unix copy of OS X...they even stole the X You may have noticed the proliferation of websites where you can download desktop customizations to make your Windows desktop look like it's running OS X Jaguar..interesting.
Apple's most recent machine, the G5, has the first 64 bit processor (dual, I might add) available to the home user. It has a full 1gig bus speed (512mb is PC standard) and will hold up to 8 gigs of RAM. The only way you can get close to this machine in the PC market is to custom configure a server type box, and you will still only have 1 64 bit chip, a slower bus speed, less RAM space, and you'll pay 1000 dollars more for it. This is due to Apple's new partnership with IBM, the makers of the PPC G5 chip. So much for all the silly wintel rumors about Apple needing to port it's OS to Intel chips so it can stay afloat...wishful thinking if you ask me. I spend a fair amount of time in Apple discussion groups, you'd be amazed at how often a win-tel user will log in to ask when OS X will be available for PC users..Apple Computer has almost 5 billion dollars in reserves and NO DEBT, and throughout the downturn continued to show a profit, while PC box companies practically had to give away their machines to stay afloat, posting record losses in some cases.
It is very sad to see so many people who feel that they have no choice but to choose a Windows machine. It simply isn't true. The older a lie gets, the harder it is to kill. I'd suggest you need to go into an Apple retail store near you and just leave your preconceptions behind. Play...and be ready to be amazed.
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posted on August 17, 2003 07:35:35 AM new
It has NOTHING to do with TRUTH or FALSEHOOD!
The subject was roses...er, the subject was: why don't viruses&worms hit MACs!
To me, the answer is pretty obvious: if 99% of the world is on PC, then why would hackers write viruses for MACs?
TAINT "cost"-effective. Has nothing to do with whether or not MAC is superior to PC.
The fact remains that nobody buys them & thus, nobody bothers them!
Is that a valid reason for purchasing APPLE products? Not to me! Last PC I bought, I looked at the POWER MAC & went instead with the top Sony -- far more pc for da moola!
posted on August 17, 2003 08:33:16 AM newif 99% of the world is on PC
Keep repeating that, if you like, but it's not true. (Not that that factors hugely into your thinking, I realize.)
Depending on who you read, Macintosh market share is either 5% or 4%....which means PC usage is either 95% or 96%.
Much of that comes from 1) ignorance and 2) sheer "me-too"-ism. First time computer buyers will purchase a machine that their friends or relatives can help them with (or so they think). Or they buy a machine similar to the one they have at work. No surprise that corporate buyers spend their bucks on cheap PCs; they're not the folks who have to clean up the exploding heads every time Windows bombs.
<mr. t> I PITY the FOOL who thinks that viruses and worms are just something you "have to put up with" to have a computer! </mr. t>
I am not a bathtub full of brightly-colored machine tools on Vendio.
posted on August 17, 2003 10:54:38 AM new To be fair, though, there is precious little business software for the Mac.
There will always be specialized apps made for different OS's..which business software did you have in mind that isn't available for Mac?I'm not sure how you define precious little, but the Apple software links page for business looks like this, each radio button takes you to a page or pages that link to scads of applications in each category.Chances are very good that for any given title published for Windows only, there is a comparable app. for OS X, often times at little or no cost.
It has NOTHING to do with TRUTH or FALSEHOOD!
It has to do with falsehood when you make a bald-faced statement like "nobody makes software for Macs"...you're just plain wrong.
I'm glad you like your Sony...have fun with the security patches and creepy crawlies
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posted on August 17, 2003 02:10:01 PM new
sorry to interrupt this little tea party but I activated my firewall, downloaded the patch and this GOD#@$ worm is still shutting my computer down. What can do besides toss it over the staircase in front of me? I have had it.
posted on August 17, 2003 02:16:04 PM new
did you remove the worm??? You have to get that thing off your computer for things to work right again. Norton's has isntructions for removal..not sure what ant-vius program you are using...mcAffee surely has removal instructions too.
[ edited by neglus on Aug 17, 2003 02:16 PM ]
posted on August 18, 2003 10:07:02 PM new
It sounds to me that you don't have anupdated version of your AntiVirus, that is if you have an AV. I run Windows 2000, but have every update thast is available for it. As far as Windows 98 is concerned, you are not immune, I know of 3 cases where users with 98 have been infected. micmic, until you get the worm in quarantine, it will keep raising havoc with your PC.
posted on August 18, 2003 11:01:55 PM new
I wrote my ISP about windows 98 and they said that 98 was safe. It is the higher versons that is missing something therefore that is why you have to download the patch. I have had my computer on all the time and I have not gotten anything except the KLEZ virus which is stopped by my virus protection. Your friends need housecall to check what virus they have...but I will bet it is not that worm.....
