Roadsmith
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posted on October 25, 2003 08:40:28 PM new
Be sure to read all the way down. This is very entertaining.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3146042998
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blueyes29
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posted on October 25, 2003 08:51:52 PM new
ROFL...thanks for making my day...Second only to OSU beating Texas A & M! 
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wrightsracing
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posted on October 25, 2003 08:52:48 PM new
That is too funny, LOL
I love this I know nothing about these stuffed Beanie Babies. I offer no proof of anything. It is a stuffed animal, get over it! I don't think my ex-wife was in the Black Market Beanie Trade..but then again, I didn't know she was having an affair either!
Guess he could buy some tools and some beer now $800.00 bucks worth.
A lot of people looked at that auction, WOW.
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beatnikera
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posted on October 25, 2003 09:33:29 PM new
That's not the whole story.
Evidently, there's much more
to it than that.
Here is the link about this particular Beanie Baby auction:
http://www.traderlist.com/DrunkenSailor-SteveKaye.html
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replaymedia
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posted on October 25, 2003 09:54:24 PM new
Concerning the auction:
I heard about this one on the nationally syndicated Neal Boortz show the other day. It looks like he's added a few revisions since then.
I suspect it's someone who has found a creative way to get away with selling what he knows is counterfeit merchandise.
Concerning the link beatnikera pointed to:
I can only say, how stupid is that? Who do those traderlist people think they are? More self-appointed internet cops with no authority to be making threats.
If they sent me an email like that, I'd probably respond in the same manner this guy did.
Not to mention their whole website is a libel suit waiting to happen.
Stupid.
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Replay Media
Games of all kinds!
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sparkz
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posted on October 25, 2003 10:19:25 PM new
It could be a creative way to sell counterfeit merchandise. It could also be a scam on the part of the buyer to get the real thing from the buyer and attempt to return switched counterfeit beanies to him and get a refund. He should have had them authenticated, and she should have had a credible and knowledgeable witness when she opened the package. At this point, it's a he said, she said type transaction.
The light at the end of the tunnel will turn out to be an oncoming train.
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replaymedia
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posted on October 25, 2003 10:28:13 PM new
"He should have had them authenticated"
First of all, I do think he's probably a crook, but lets assume a minute the story in the auction is true.
He had a box of peanut-filled animals he wanted to get rid of. He doesn't know or care if they are valuable. Suddenly it's up to HIM to get them authenticated?
Bid low and take your chances, it's a gamble.
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Replay Media
Games of all kinds!
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sparkz
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posted on October 25, 2003 10:50:18 PM new
Replaymedia...If for no other reason than to protect himself. He had a warning (more like a threat) from the winning bidder during the auction that this could happen. By authentication, I'm not suggesting paying a hundred bucks to an expert for an appraisal. It could be something as simple as an opinion from a knowledgeable collector. This bidder had been blocked and it's my understanding that you can't use an alternate i.d. to evade that situation. She's in no position to complain, as she shouldn't have been bidding in the first place. I get the feeling she's using that vigilante web site to try to set him up.
The light at the end of the tunnel will turn out to be an oncoming train.
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kiara
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posted on October 25, 2003 10:54:58 PM new
Maybe as a revenge thing his wife deliberately left that box behind, knowing he would list them. Then maybe one of her friends or a friend of a friend bid on it just to get him in trouble?
The buyer e-mailed him to tell him it was highly unlikely they were authentic and then she goes ahead and bids several times on the auction? He started it at $10 and claimed he didn't know anything about them. How could he control the bidding?
He was a buyer as well as a seller and has great feedback. I wonder what the true story is?
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sparkz
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posted on October 25, 2003 11:15:03 PM new
Kiara...It's looking more like a soap opera all the time. There's several possible scenarios involved here. The seller can probably make a lot more selling the rights to this story to a Hollywood producer than he made off the beanies 
The light at the end of the tunnel will turn out to be an oncoming train.
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peiklk
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posted on October 25, 2003 11:28:28 PM new
Based on the text in the auction, I don't see how anyone can blame the seller here for anything.
They made it quite clear what they were selling and that they had no idea if they were valuable or rare.
Sure, he COULD have authenticated the items, but he didn't -- but of course he didn't pass them off as anything of exceptional value.
I could sell a ring and say I don't know what it is, but that it looks like a diamond -- but I cannot say for sure. If someone paid me for it as if it were a diamond (without knowing for sure), then tough. They are paying for what I'm selling: something that is diamond-like.
Same here. For these people to bid so much for something of unknown value as if they knew for sure the value, well sorry. Buyer's fault completely.
They got what the seller offered for the price they wanted to pay. Had he said they were rare and they weren't, that would be a different story altogether.
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Japerton
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posted on October 26, 2003 12:12:50 AM new
Judging by the crappy QVC quality fine jewelry that is splatter-gunned all over ebay, that's not a useful analogy.
This seller does give credence to some Neanderthal remnent in our DNA...
What a pure lazy a$$.
He could photograph and do some research, and save himself the hassle. Nothing like bidding on a browbeater's auction.
Nothing like a whiney a$$ed ex.
Too much browridge and not enough usage of braincase.
But, definitely a hoot and sending it to friends across the globe...lol
J
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All the monkeys aren't in the zoo,
Every day you meet quite a few,
So you see it's all up to you.
You can be better than you are,
You could be swingin' on a star
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lovepotions
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posted on October 26, 2003 01:08:30 AM new
I think they were probably real.
The bidder is a scam artist and stalker.
Why would he have paid $40+ to authenticate a bunch of stupid beanies then have a starting bid of $10.
The bidder............WTF? she emails him with her BS claiming they probably aren't real gets blocked and uses a 2nd ID to bid $860 bucks??
Beanies rare or not, valuable or not if you aren't comfortable with the auction or its "authentication" then why the F*** bid it up to $860.
If you wanna be so crazed and psycho over a stuffed toy and its authenticity then don't buy it on the damned internet.
http://www.lovepotions.com
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rarriffle
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posted on October 26, 2003 01:35:40 AM new
IMHO, the auction is just what it says it is.
if he were trying to rip somebody off, he would have listed some of them separately, he just wanted them out of the house!
I live in an apartment complex and you would not believe what people leave behind. one man, after telling us for 3 years about his LP collection, moved and left the whole collection behind.
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neglus
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posted on October 26, 2003 03:19:42 AM new
I'm with the seller on this one! One should authenticate a Van Gogh, Picasso, Elvis' autograph, diamonds, pearls...but a mass produced bean bag animal less than 10 years old? no way!! THe buyer went to extraordinary lengths to win the auction - greed got the better of her and she should have to live with the results. The guy never warranted authenticity and went to great lengths to say that he wasn't about to worry about it. Caveat emptor!
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toasted36
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posted on October 26, 2003 04:46:09 AM new
I think collecting beanies are silly...my reason is they don't protect them enough from the factory...they should have the tag protector on them from the minute they come off the conveyor belt and put in a air tight plastic bags or boxes...maybe then they'd be worth the time.As they stand now they are just pieces of fabric that can be messed up by taking them from a box to be put on the shelf for sale. I bet the seller is sorry he ever listed these things...Beanie and Barbie collectors are as bad as Fluffy's Bridezilla's lol  you have to put on a safey suit and gloves just to pack the dang things ! God forbid you break wind lol ! they'll have a funny smell. The only beanie type toy I have in my house is the Red Ebay bear called Besty Bear I got for free when I signed up for Ebay years ago.Anybody else feel this way?
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peiklk
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posted on October 26, 2003 04:56:58 AM new
I agree toasted...
I have one, a squirrel, that I picked up at a garage sale -- and it sits on my monitor. Only because at the time we had squirrels in our attic and this was a reminder for me to get out the pellet rifle.
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CBlev65252
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posted on October 26, 2003 05:39:17 AM new
I have three of them and only because my son bought them for me at McDonald's during the last election (oops, I mean last appointment). Those at least come in protective packaging! I don't see the charm in them at all. It's like Pokemon. What has started out as a child's toy has turned into an adult's collectible. I guess the same can be said for Barbie and we all know what's happened to her. I wish I still had the first one I ever got. It was a number 1. Then again, I wasn't exactly toy friendly.
Cheryl
He has his own throne (Revelation 13:2) and his own worshipers (Revelation 13:4).
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bkkofaz
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posted on October 26, 2003 06:26:26 AM new
Maybe the bidder is his ex-wife trying to get her beanies back?
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Twelvepole
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posted on October 26, 2003 06:54:28 AM new
Loved his reponse....
I think the buyer is trying to do a switch and he should be on the lookout.
AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
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stopwhining
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posted on October 26, 2003 07:34:09 AM new
if the bidder bot paypal insurance,would she be able to just send the beanies to paypal and get her money back that way??
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drcomm
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posted on October 26, 2003 07:39:16 AM new
I think I've talked about my Barbie auction on here before..the one I bought at a garage sale for a quarter and sold for 1,113.00. ('66 American Girl)
I had no fewer than 20 email questions a day about that doll. Was her lipstick more coral or pink? Was her skin tone more beige or ecru? Was I SURE she had ALL of her nail/toenail polish. Was her hair more silver brunette or chestnut or .. I just didn't have enough colors in my crayon box! I was a nervous wreck about that auction and even had nightmares about Barbie dolls with missing heads and other body parts until I finally got it shipped. Turned out the buyer was a gem though, thank goodness!
I'm with the others on here. He didn't try to play these up to be anything other than what he was offering: a bunch of beanies that he had no idea whether they were authentic or not. Greedy person that I am, I would have been more open to questions, but that wasn't what he choose to do and if the buyer wasn't pleased with that, she shouldn't have bid!
Deana
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stopwhining
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posted on October 26, 2003 08:10:10 AM new
one word,my dear -GREED
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Libra63
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posted on October 26, 2003 08:20:04 AM new
Here is some interesting reading.....
http://www.traderlist.com/DrunkenSailor-SteveKaye.html
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drcomm
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posted on October 26, 2003 08:39:12 AM new
I liked his response. Who the hell are they to accuse him that way? She stated herself in the first email that she DID NOT know if they were authentic or not, and actually thought they probably were not. If I were him, I'd say "Take me to court!". The countersuit will buy him a whole lot more tools and beer. She tried to get the auction pulled, but bid on and won it anyway?? What a flake. Isn't changing IDs and bidding on an auction you've been blocked from a violation of ebay rules? I'd say she's the crook here.
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stopwhining
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posted on October 26, 2003 08:40:59 AM new
why does she bid after being blocked from bidding??
she asked for it,no sympathy from me.besides she should have bidded 10 dollars.
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Twelvepole
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posted on October 26, 2003 09:00:43 AM new
It is just beanie baby pizz and moan site... means nothing in the greater scheme of things...
AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
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wgm
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posted on October 26, 2003 09:26:12 AM new
Wonder why she hasn't left him feedback yet?
"I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it." - A Few Good Men
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ahc3
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posted on October 26, 2003 09:28:41 AM new
I didn't think people still bought and sold these things. I see them at garage sales all the time for a quarter and don't even consider them.
I think the fact that this bidder admitted she bid on the auction with a different ID after she was blocked should be enough to get all of her ID's blocked on ebay - This auction had all sorts of red flags, even the attitude of the seller suggested that if they were not authentic, there was no way in hell you were getting a refund...
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Libra63
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posted on October 26, 2003 10:49:24 AM new
Shouldn't the seller have made sure the auction was authentic as fakes are not allowed on eBay. In my opinion eBay was wrong in not stopping that auction. Even though he put a disclaimer in his auction in my opinion means nothing. So in all my auctions I put a disclaimer. Then I don't have to refund? He knew what he had and tried to get away with something. I have no sympathy for either one. Now I know why the sellers wife left him and of course that is probably a lie.
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