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posted on October 30, 2003 12:10:17 PM new
Can anyone help me ID this? The object in question is a flask. It is 6 1/2 inches tall. One side is a couple dancing and the other side is a brown tree trunk. The couple look very 20s/30s to me. The tree trunk side has an opening at the height of the man's shoulder. It is stopped with a cork with a brown ceramic knob. The woman's nose is quite sharp and there may be a small chip there. The white mark on the tree side base is not a chip but a miss in the glaze.
 
Here is the bad part about the ID: There is a black ink stamp on the bottom that is hit and miss. It seems to say:
POLL--ck(?)-- CO. LTD
FERN-- B.C.
I have searched for every combination of these words with willdcards and guesses on the missing or blurred letters plus any keywords that seem likely. I am coming up blank. I am thinking the FERN is Fernie, British Columbia. Does that seem likely to any Canadians? Does anyone know a manufacturer of this type of flask that could be Poll(whatever)?
Thanks for any suggestions.
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posted on October 30, 2003 12:41:45 PM new
Looks like an old Maple Syrup bottle.
Could that be Anna Nicole Smith with deceased hubby J. Howard Marshall
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posted on October 30, 2003 12:51:57 PM new
Can't help with the lettering, but it is a give-away liquor flask from the 1930's or earlier. The majority were made in Japan, with some of the finer ones made in Germany. The fact that it was given away in Canada is the reason it's not marked with the country of origin. If it was made to be sold to a tavern or liquor dealer in the USA, it would have "made in ---" somewhere on it.
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posted on October 30, 2003 01:01:39 PM new
The figures look like apache dancers, to me.
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posted on October 31, 2003 07:26:25 AM new
max40 is correct. I used to have a very large collection of these from Germany in the 1960's and 1970's. Yours looks well made enough to have been made in Germany. The Japanese copies were much less carefully made. And yes- these are Apache Dancers. We used to call these flasks " Giveaway bottles" since the taverns and speak easys would fill them at Xmas and give them to their customers. Date from the 1920's and early 30's. Used to bring high prices in the heyday of bottle collecting.
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posted on October 31, 2003 09:12:35 AM new
Thanks to all who offered help. Is the two sided quality typical of this kind of flask? I am reminded of the ash tray with the couple standing side by side and when you turn it over the other side is very naughty. I can't think of any reason to have a tree stump on the back except that it would look more innocent on a shelf although the woman's foot sticking out kind of suggest it was not supposed to fool anyone.
I found this completed auction on eBay:
http://tinyurl.com/t5y4
(can someone take pity and tell me the code for a clickable link on this board)
Can I assume that this rather gross little flask that did not get a bid at earlier but similar in use. I am thinking again about keywords that might be useful.
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posted on October 31, 2003 09:22:44 AM new
There is a small town in BC Canada named Fernie
Maybe it says Fernie BC??
http://www.fernie.com/about_fernie/downtown.html
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max40
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posted on October 31, 2003 09:41:10 AM new
Link = [*url]whatever[*/url] Remove the stars.
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posted on October 31, 2003 09:44:05 AM new
http://tinyurl.com/t5y4
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posted on October 31, 2003 09:44:55 AM new
http://www.fernie.com/about_fernie/downtown.html
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posted on October 31, 2003 09:47:13 AM new
nb: Fernie did have a boozey past!
http://tinyurl.com/t62m
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posted on October 31, 2003 09:53:49 AM new
Yes, it and neighboring towns had a boozey past and also many breweries.
There was a Pollock Wine Co there at one time.
http://www.crowsnest.bc.ca/fernie03.html
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posted on October 31, 2003 10:05:15 AM new
In answer to the question about the two sided quality, some did and some did not and only had a rich chocolate brown glaze on the back. I recall a lot of so called "flappers" depicted complete with short skirts and beads and a very common one with the plain glazed back and the stopper on the top of a Scottish boy in kilts urinating into a fountain or something with the inscription "Don't drink the Water"
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posted on October 31, 2003 10:13:46 AM new
Hey you guys and gals are a mine of information! I will follow up on the links. I never knew that Canada had proabition!
I am working with my sister on auctions and she gave me the job of finding more about this flask. I think she will be surprised and delighted with what you have been able to add. I now have a ton of information to research.
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Maholy-Nagy, Vision in Motion, 1947
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posted on October 31, 2003 10:42:04 AM new
Thats it then.
It must be from the Pollock Wine Company in Fernie BC which burned down in 1908??
Cool!
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posted on October 31, 2003 10:56:27 AM new
Do not believe Canada had prohibition. Though a lot of the liqour was shipped from the Briish Isles to Canada and then slipped across the border illegally into the US. Wasn't the elder Kennedy inolved some way with that?
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posted on October 31, 2003 10:57:18 AM new
I would call the Fernie Historical Museum
at 250-423-6512
They should be of some help.
I would also email the Fernie & District Historical Society at [email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
Fernie and District Historical Society and Museum
Contact Person: Randal Macnair
Phone Number: (250) 423-7016
Fax Number: (250) 423-7461
e-mail address: [email protected]
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posted on October 31, 2003 10:58:48 AM new
The road to Canadian Prohibition was filled with baby steps taken by those in the general population who believed in the "evils of drink". Prohibition was a passionately contested issue that was debated in various social circles, at home, and in formed societies for decades. Everyone had his or her own opinion. It took years for Prohibition to be passed on a national level in Canada and when it finally was passed, Prohibition lasted less than 2 years. The federal government passed Prohibition in March 1918 and it lasted until December 1919.
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posted on October 31, 2003 12:14:29 PM new
Lowprofile,
"It must be from the Pollock Wine Company in Fernie BC which burned down in 1908??"
It's not that old.
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posted on October 31, 2003 01:59:38 PM new
Maybe the Pollack Wine co. burned down at a later date because Apache Dancers were a thing of the 1920's, were they not? Were not around in Edwardian times. These bottles dated from about 1918 until the very early 1930's. Actually these little flasks were never filled with wine but with the hard stuff - like whiskey unless the Pollock Co. sold all types of alcoholic beverages
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