glassgrl
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posted on November 7, 2003 07:10:40 PM new
I know nothing about Masonic symbols. If you're masonic, what are some key words? Thanks
Laura Beth
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wrightsracing
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posted on November 7, 2003 07:30:06 PM new
East, Eastern Star,Apron,lodge hall ,FRATERNAL ORANIZATION ,Mason....can't think of any more right now. it's late.
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AuctionAce
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posted on November 7, 2003 09:18:11 PM new
Gold content and weight. It has a very good chance of being melted down.
There are fratnernal order classifications for a shot at a few style points for added value beyond the gold value.
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Libra63
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posted on November 7, 2003 09:30:41 PM new
Shrine,
I am sure a Mason would just love to have this ring. Jewelry for fraternal organizations are rather pricy when new but the older rings have more charm. If it has a gold content besure and mention that in the title. Don't forget size in description. Good Luck...
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lovepotions
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posted on November 7, 2003 11:08:30 PM new
I have a heavily masonic family.
That ring was NOT made by a jeweler.
Some Mason hand carved and crafted it.
Not sure how you got it unless grandpa died and the grandkids didn't value it among his treasures and sold it off. A ring of that quality shouldn't have ended up in some Ebay sellers inventory. It meant ALOT to the man who made it.
The symbol on the front is the "Square and Compass" In place of where the diamond is usually a "G"
The shovel on one side is called a "Trowel"
I do not know what the Bell type symbol is on the other side. Could be a local side group fraternity.
You could walk into a local Masonic lodge and ask any of those old guys if they know anything about it. Every lodge has a mini-museum display case of members past..... They may even offer to buy it from you directly. If somehow that ring stayed local you may even find some old kodger who new the owner.
I've seen thousands of Masonic rings in my life and hadn't seen any hand carved rings.
It will get you a good price.........
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AuctionAce
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posted on November 8, 2003 12:10:03 AM new
You know that high school class rings mean a tremendous amount to the owner but most others see it only for it's metal value. Once it gets away from the original owner there are not many that want it except for the metal value. The same may be true for this ring.
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lovepotions
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posted on November 8, 2003 01:12:29 AM new
Masonic rings are different. Nearly all Mason's at some point buy a ring and it doesn't have dates or stuff like that. As long as the original owners name is not engraved inside someone will find this ring unique and amazing.
Class rings have the name of the school and a date and are most of the time engraved on the inside with a name. So its only value is the gold and stones.
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glassgrl
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posted on November 8, 2003 02:31:30 AM new
Yes thank you LP, I think it's unique too. It was late when I took the pictures for here and I was only going for the detail, not for the beauty of it. What I didn't point out was that it is only 10k (stamped inside) but I didn't show the size of it. It is a cigar band style and has quite a nice diamond in it. I'm trying to determine if it is a mine cut diamond because it's so sparkly. I'm not sure but from my Google searches, I think the cigar band dates it back to the 40's.
I picked it up in Birmingham last weekend. It was from an estate and the woman said it was here fathers. The ring had been cut off at some point so I squished the ends together a little and have been wearing it.
I couldn't get it to show that it is also 2 colors of gold. The part behind where the square and compass is, is white gold. Every thing else is yellow gold.
What a great idea to show it to someone locally - duh - why didn't I think of that?
I would rather keep it than have it melted down. I was married briefly to a Shriner/Mason whatever and I know they all have to have a Masonic ring at some point. This one is just so different then anything I've ever seen.
I couldn't figure out what the symbols were on the side. I knew they had different degrees but I don't think this is one of them, just general masonic.
It's almost 3/4" wide in the front, tapering down in the back.
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rarriffle
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posted on November 8, 2003 05:19:06 AM new
fraternal items are not quite the same as class rings.
many brotherhoods are intense about items for that fraternity and the masons are one of those brotherhoods. many of them collect masonic items and hold them dear.
good luck with the ring, it is special.
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Libra63
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posted on November 8, 2003 07:22:27 AM new
If you think the ring is made by a craftsmen other than a regular jewelry house remember that Dentists do a lot of jewelry making as it has to do with wax and dentist when they make teeth use wax and have a great knack for jewelry making. Many dentists when they retire go into specialized jewelry making. Perhaps this Mason was a dentist. If you got it at a local estate sale I would find out if the person was a Mason in that family. Or even if you didn't it might have been lost at some point someone found it and thought it was junk. My dad was a Mason, Shriner and he wore a ring as long as I can remember that was Masonic. He never took it off.
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glassgrl
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posted on November 10, 2003 02:19:40 PM new
well the local jeweler tried to buy the ring off of me for $125.00 so maybe it's a winner. He said it was very very nice, probably wax cast and was 40's 50's vintage.
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Libra63
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posted on November 10, 2003 04:56:43 PM new
With the price he quoted it was probably worth 3x that much..At least you have a starting poing....Good Luck..
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