ewora
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posted on December 18, 2003 09:00:04 PM new
Someone posted this link on the bookseller's area of E-bay.
It's a page that lets you view the neutral and negative feedback that you have both received and given.
You can look up any seller or buyer idea.
http://www.haus.org/cgi-bin/negs
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sparkz
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posted on December 18, 2003 09:29:09 PM new
Ewora...Thanks for posting that. It can be a tremendous help in some instances. I bookmarked it and will probably put it to good use.
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neglus
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posted on December 18, 2003 09:32:44 PM new
That is cool! Thanks!
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zircon4
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posted on December 18, 2003 10:08:48 PM new
Ewora,
Thank you! that is a very useful tool.
Regards,
Adrian
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Libra63
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posted on December 18, 2003 10:09:46 PM new
Wow! How soon we forget. I didn't realize I had left that many negatives.
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Roadsmith
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posted on December 18, 2003 11:21:06 PM new
ewora! Thanks so much. I just checked mine--2 neutrals, no negs (yet), and found that one of the neutrals I'd responded to (P.O. shipping was at fault for Half.com book getting there later than buyer wanted) actually had an apology from the buyer, which I'd never seen. this is a really valuable site you've found.
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earthmum
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posted on December 19, 2003 01:26:21 AM new
Great link, ewora! That little witch that left me my only neutral last spring - she's been booted!
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classicrock000
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posted on December 19, 2003 03:40:11 AM new
this is great! yahoo had this for years.
when I look at some power sellers rating, I could care less about reading the positives,I want to know what kind of problems the seller has.
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on December 19, 2003 04:53:18 AM new
And of course as we all know, everyone who leaves a neg is being strictly truthful and factual, with no ulterior motive whatsoever.
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auctionACE
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posted on December 19, 2003 09:22:34 AM new
I feel sorry for the sellers with lots of negatives. Ebay is going to use something very similar to this in their 'new' feedback system.
The other day I got to thinking about the 'always promised and never delivered' ebay daily TV show and I now believe that ebay sees this as a negative factor. If you think about, the show would educated the sellers and buyers about ebay and ebay makes a lot of its money on the fact that the users are partially uneducated about ebay. Double category listings, worthless BOLD listing options, etc. , etc. If the buyers knew they could search more effectively and search the ebay stores and completed auctions for reference then many sellers would be getting lower bids and less bids. The list of things that savvy buyers would do rather than rookie buyers may drastically change ebay, and ebay may feel an economic pinch from these 'savvy by ebay's own hands' buyers.
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rarriffle
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posted on December 19, 2003 09:29:31 AM new
thanks so much for the link. i find it interesting to read the negs and neutrals, then read the feedback of the ones that left them.
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fenix03
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posted on December 19, 2003 09:40:31 AM new
Ace - lets face it though - the store search truly sucks. It automatically includes searches of descriptions as well so when I put is a search for a black bath sheet I got 13 store mathces- only 1 of which actually had black bath sheets. Other items that qualified for that particular search included whirlpool baths, vinyl fish stickers and a front disk brake assembly. What a wonderful waste of my time.
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popnrock
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posted on December 19, 2003 10:45:29 AM new
Yippee! Some of the bidders who left unfounded feedback are NRU now.
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on December 19, 2003 11:10:29 AM new
I feel sorry for the sellers with lots of negatives.
Don't bother. Having negatives is no deterrent to making money. Countless examples abound.
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auctionACE
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posted on December 19, 2003 02:26:11 PM new
Fluff, I know it's all part of selling in volume but basic human nature is going to come into this new 'innovation' that ebay is coming out with soon.
A seller can have 4,000 glowing positive feedbacks and 50 nasty negatives and the odds are that the positives will never get viewed and those 50 consectutive negative are going to be read and they will scare the Bejezus out of them. That's great for hobby sellers with perfect or near-perfect feedback ratings but it's going to be murder on the volume sellers with hundreds of new feedbacks every month.
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dcpent
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posted on December 19, 2003 02:53:26 PM new
Vrane ( http;//www.vrane.com )developed that service a few years ago, along with several other interesting feedback widgets.
Unfortunately they got greedy, and started charging for it's use. Their's seemed to be much faster than this one.
Somebody should try it on that guy from another thread, that has 10,000 negs
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on December 19, 2003 05:52:33 PM new
it's going to be murder on the volume sellers with hundreds of new feedbacks every month.
You keep saying this, thread after thread, as though it were fact instead of opinion.
You're entitled to your opinion but I hope you have more than one.
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blueyes29
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posted on December 19, 2003 06:06:13 PM new
Thanks, ewora...GREAT site! All of my negs have been undeserved and I've posted a response to each one stating circumstances...So, hopefully, people will look and read the negs and not be automatically turned off when they see those red nasty negs on next to the user ID.
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fenix03
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posted on December 19, 2003 06:15:33 PM new
Ace- what I want to know is what inside knowledge you have that tells you something that no one else has read anywhere. How do you know thatebay is adding that? Why would they. Since you have this inside knowledge track, why ebay implement a option which would have only negative results? You have all the knowledge here - what is their thinking and why do they think that allowing a buyer to see only negative would create a more profitable business module for them?
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wgm
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posted on December 19, 2003 06:34:00 PM new
thanks for the tool, ewora! I'm finding it helpful to rebuild my blocked bidder's list that disappeared 
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auctionACE
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posted on December 19, 2003 07:13:15 PM new
It's not 'inside knowledge' it's been announced by ebay and was in several newsletters such as AuctionBytes. If people chose to be uninformed about auction matters that's okay with me.
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fenix03
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posted on December 19, 2003 08:01:26 PM new
If this is the announcement you are speaking of....
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Date: 11/26/03 Time: 03:37:07 PM PST
Feedback is at the heart of establishing reputation on eBay. Over the past few months, we have been soliciting input from the Community on our ideas for enhancing the feedback profile layout and design. Our goal is to make it even easier for eBay buyers and sellers to assess the reputation of potential trading partners.
These updates will result in a page called "Member Profile" which will be introduced early next year. Among the features in the Member Profile, we are including:
New tabs for quick access to buyer feedback, seller feedback, and feedback left for others
New positive, neutral and negative feedback icons to make it easy to scan feedback
New feedback rating table organized in 1-month, 6-month and 12-month intervals
New pagination model that uses significantly less screen space.
Please note that the new Member Profile only affects design and layout; we have not changed the feedback policy or the way the feedback forum works.
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Therre is no mention of enabling feedback searches, only there will be new easier to recognizee icons. Did you misread this or was did the announcement you read that stated different run away and elope with the Free Listing Day on the 26th announcement that you insist was made but no one else saw?
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auctionACE
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posted on December 19, 2003 08:43:39 PM new
New tabs for quick access to buyer feedback, seller feedback, and feedback left for others
New positive, neutral and negative feedback icons to make it easy to scan feedback
This has been discussed to death on other message boards but almost totally ignored here.
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fenix03
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posted on December 19, 2003 08:56:21 PM new
Because the only thing it differnentiates is your bbuyer feedback from your selling feedback, not your negative feedback from your positive.
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stonecold613
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posted on December 19, 2003 11:52:20 PM new
The other day I got to thinking about the 'always promised and never delivered' ebay daily TV show and I now believe that ebay sees this as a negative factor.
That is because it was already done. Gruvo tried it nearly 2 years ago and it simply didn't attract anyone.
I can't believe I am going to back auctiondoofus on this one, but in the ebay announcement boards, it did state that you would be able to search only the pos, neutral or negs in the coming future.
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auctionACE
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posted on December 20, 2003 02:02:50 AM new
some good reading from the ebay feedback forum
http://tinyurl.com/3ytn8
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[ edited by auctionACE on Dec 20, 2003 02:44 AM ]
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amber
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posted on December 20, 2003 04:24:59 AM new
I think it is a real help to be able to see the negative and neutral feedbacks. I checked on a seller I know who has a couple of negs, and 3 neutrals, and I was amazed to see that on each of the neutrals she got glowing comments like "Wonderful transaction, item as described, will buy from again" Why on earth they put it under neutral I have no idea, it's time that option was eliminated. Obviously some people have no idea what it is for.
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auctionACE
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posted on December 20, 2003 09:33:13 AM new
Here's an AB article/survey about feedback
http://www.auctionbytes.com/pages/abu/y203/m01/abu0087/s02
80% look at the number of negatives and neutrals
61% look at the total number of feedback points
47% look at whether the seller's past transactions were as a buyer or seller
32% look at the kinds of things the seller sold in the past
14% look at the dollar amounts of the seller's previous transactions
8% never look at someone's feedback before bidding.
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fenix03
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posted on December 20, 2003 09:34:52 AM new
OK Stone and Ace - please find for me where it says anything about seperating good bad and neutral feedback. I followed your like Ace and the same thing that I pointed out was brought up in that thread - THe different types of feedback being eluded to are buying vs selling , not good vs bad. I went to the links included in that thread and there is NOTHING about seperating good vs bad feedback, only adding icons to make them easier to recognize.
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auctionACE
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posted on December 20, 2003 12:53:37 PM new
Fenix, read the thread from the ebay feedback forum link that I posted. Are there that many posters that got the wrong idea? The OTWA threads on the subject are the same as the ebay feedback forum. Are dozens of posters missreading the ebay announcement or is it you that possibly is missreading the announcement?
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