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 OhMsLucy
 
posted on January 9, 2004 05:02:48 PM new
Hi all,

I've Googled and eBayed until my poor little mouse's optical eyes are as crossed as mine. Trying to decide if this chandelier is Art Deco or Medieval, or some other style, for that matter.

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I'm leaning towards Art Deco because of the motifs on the light wings. To me, Medieval would be heavier. Just not sure...

It's bronze, quite old, reasonably large and very lovely. Been rewired, too.

Thanks!

Lucy
I grow old...I grow old...I shall wear the bottoms of my trousers rolled. T.S. Eliot

Edited on accounta I messed up the second link. Oh well, better go get another glass of wine.
[ edited by OhMsLucy on Jan 9, 2004 05:04 PM ]
 
 max40
 
posted on January 9, 2004 05:23:26 PM new
IMHO it's way too busy for art deco.
More like early Count Dracula.

Life is not a dress rehearsal
 
 OhMsLucy
 
posted on January 9, 2004 05:27:31 PM new
Thanks, Max.

Whatcha mean by Count Dracula???

LOL!

Lucy
I grow old...I grow old...I shall wear the bottoms of my trousers rolled. T.S. Eliot
 
 max40
 
posted on January 9, 2004 05:28:43 PM new
He had those all over the crypt till he redecorated.

Life is not a dress rehearsal
 
 OhMsLucy
 
posted on January 9, 2004 05:35:40 PM new
So that would be Medieval?
I grow old...I grow old...I shall wear the bottoms of my trousers rolled. T.S. Eliot
 
 fenix03
 
posted on January 9, 2004 05:44:00 PM new
I would use Gothic
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If it's really "common" sense, why do so few people actually have it?
 
 Roadsmith
 
posted on January 9, 2004 05:45:56 PM new
I agree it's too busy for art deco. Looks more medieval-like to me. Actually, our architect son in law would say it's a "pastiche of styles," including ornate, medieval, a touch of . . . whatever. We had a house like that until 2 years ago. ON the home tour, too, and the brochure described our house as a pastiche of 30s and 20s styles and some other phrases I can't remember.
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 max40
 
posted on January 9, 2004 05:50:22 PM new
I think gothic is a good description.

Life is not a dress rehearsal
 
 OhMsLucy
 
posted on January 9, 2004 05:54:22 PM new
Hi all,

Thanks for the help!

It's very likely from the 20s or 30s, which, as I recall, was a transitional period.

Gothic/Medieval seems like a good middle ground. A bit light to be Gothic/Medieval but, I agree, it's pretty busy to be Art Deco.

Oh well, maybe I can fit more than one style in the title and let the bidders decide.

I bought this and another one at the auction. They were selling them as a lot. The other one's going in my dining room but this one needs to find it's destiny elsewhere.

Editing - pastiche of styles - I like that phrase! Can I steal it?

Lucy

I grow old...I grow old...I shall wear the bottoms of my trousers rolled. T.S. Eliot
[ edited by OhMsLucy on Jan 9, 2004 05:56 PM ]
 
 Dragonmom
 
posted on January 9, 2004 09:57:33 PM new
Yeah! call it a "Hollywood Gothic pastiche" and use every other word you can think of, too- mideival, Say that it has an Art Deco feeling.. say it all, the more terms you use in the description the better off you are. You can also mention that Charles Eastlake would have loved this chandelier, and that is also called "arts and Crafts revival" or Queen Anne period.
Anyway, a lot of Art Deco design was Gothic inspired.
When I am an old woman, I shall wear purple
with a red hat that doesn't go, and doesn't suit me.
 
 OhMsLucy
 
posted on January 9, 2004 10:33:28 PM new
Hmmm... Hollywood Gothic-Inspired Art Deco. Not bad. You know, this thing does kinda make me think Grauman's Chinese. I saw King Kong there. First time in my entire life I wore high heels!

Thanks all for the thoughts and ideas.

Lucy

And I shall spend my pension on brandy and summer gloves
And satin sandals and say we've no money for butter.

 
 earthmum
 
posted on January 10, 2004 05:00:20 AM new
There was a decorating style in the 1920s that I think was called "Baronial." The idea was to emulate an old English castle. There was oak furniture with barley twist legs, swords and shields, suits of armor, tapestries ... I believe it was a short-lived fad, something like the "Mediteranean" fad that hit in the 1970s - wrought iron, ghastly red upholstery (or gold). Edited to add that I can't spell Meditteranean and that the Baronial style went into those fake English Tudor houses.
[ edited by earthmum on Jan 10, 2004 05:04 AM ]
 
 chathamsue
 
posted on January 10, 2004 05:58:08 AM new
I agree with earthmum. We have cousins who have a home built in that era - English Tudor w/ leaded glass windows, spiral staircase, etc. The bulk of the house is original with lighting fixtures very much like yours. It would look very cool in the right setting!

 
 OhMsLucy
 
posted on January 10, 2004 08:47:05 AM new
Hi all,

Thanks, Earthmum and Chathamsue. I Googled Baronial and I'm pretty sure that's what it is. Fits in with the age, too, mid-1920's.

Looks like that style is along the lines of Medieval with a bit of Gothic tossed in for good measure.

However... seeing as how Baronial isn't a particularly well-known style, in the interests of key-word searching, I think I'll call it a Pre-Art Deco Bronze Baronial Chandelier. That, of course, presupposes I have room.

This board is amazing - there's always someone here who knows the answer.

Thank you all very much!

Lucy
I grow old...I grow old...I shall wear the bottoms of my trousers rolled. T.S. Eliot
 
 fenix03
 
posted on January 10, 2004 11:10:12 AM new
ZLUcy - Add Gothic to that description - there are 20 and 30's somethinngs that have never heard of Baronial but love the Gothic styling.
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If it's really "common" sense, why do so few people actually have it?
 
 OhMsLucy
 
posted on January 10, 2004 03:08:49 PM new
Good idea, Fenix. I didn't think of Baronial until it came up here.

I've got Gothic & Pre-Art Deco in the title with Baronial and Medieval in a subtitle. First time I've used one. Of course it won't come up in search but might be a good idea.

Thanks!

Lucy
I grow old...I grow old...I shall wear the bottoms of my trousers rolled. T.S. Eliot
 
 AintRichYet
 
posted on January 10, 2004 03:13:04 PM new
It's a beautiful fixture MsLucy~! ... good luck with it at auction!

 
 OhMsLucy
 
posted on January 10, 2004 05:35:25 PM new
Thanks, AintRichYet. I'm not rich either, mores the pity...

Maybe this neat old light will make me a little bit richer for when I go to Elko in a coupla months. Getting all set to gamble my brains out!

Lucy


I grow old...I grow old...I shall wear the bottoms of my trousers rolled. T.S. Eliot
 
 ltray
 
posted on January 10, 2004 07:39:24 PM new
Mslucy,
Gorgeous piece, I bet it pays for your first round at Elko.

 
 OhMsLucy
 
posted on January 10, 2004 09:30:45 PM new
Ltray - I sure do hope so. Thanx a bunch!

Red Lion in Elko has charter flights from many, many cities. The fare is VERY reasonable and includes 2 or 3 nights in the hotel. It's a great little vacation.

Me


I grow old...I grow old...I shall wear the bottoms of my trousers rolled. T.S. Eliot
 
 
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