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 LifeIzGood
 
posted on January 12, 2004 07:25:07 AM new
Hopefully someone can help me on how to stop or have this stopped (without closing my email account) as this is my email address for eBay that they are using.

Left on Saturday and returned Sunday to about 40 "undeliverable" emails. I DID NOT SEND THEM! But, they either have my email address in the "Reply to" field or they are "From" Unprofitable E. Zit <[email protected]> or some other stupit name. What a bunch of buttheads whom ever they are! Freaking Viagra, etc. spams.

Is there a way for me to stop this? I did go in and change my password (probably has nothing to do with that), but didn't know what to do. Is this a new/old way to tick people off with spam? Should I contact "Hotmail Customer Service" (if there is any) and see if they can help me? Or will it all run it's course? I hate the fact that it looks like I am sending SPAM emails when I'm not. Can I get into any kind of warning/trouble with my email provider?

I have never had anything like this happen before so am without a clue how to fix, if I can.

Thanks for any helpful help here.

 
 BIGPEEPA
 
posted on January 12, 2004 07:38:09 AM new
Hello, That happened to me once. Call your ISP and change your pass word. That worked for me.

 
 fluffythewondercat
 
posted on January 12, 2004 07:41:55 AM new
No, changing your password will not help.

The spammers aren't using your actual account; they're just forging email with your address on it.

Most people don't realize that email is incredibly easy to fake...which is why we always advise looking at the headers to see the actual path a message travelled.

I have had two incidences of spam being sent out under my address. You'll get some angry emails but it'll pass. There's nothing you can do about it.

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Fish are food, not friends.
 
 LifeIzGood
 
posted on January 12, 2004 07:47:22 AM new
Thanks! What a PITA!!!

 
 liveinjeans
 
posted on January 12, 2004 07:59:29 AM new
Question about headers.
Can't they be altered too?

Which address path is the originating one?
Sometime it appears they go through 3 or 4 paths, so which is which?


 
 lindajean
 
posted on January 12, 2004 08:00:34 AM new
I had it happen two years ago and it was terrible for about a week then tapered off.

Worse, it came from a porn site. If that many were "undelivered" I shutter to think how many made it through.

My ISP said they couldn't do anything, but did tell me to change my password and the next day it stopped. So, maybe that was a coincidence, but it is worth a shot.

 
 Roadsmith
 
posted on January 12, 2004 08:47:51 AM new
My cousin is on AOL and just yesterday he mentioned he'd had this same problem. It was very embarrassing for him.

The spam coming to my e-mail box has many different "senders" listed and this is what they're doing. Using someone's e-mail address for a while. If we call this "Junk," sent from a particular "person," the next identical piece of junk will be from a different person, not idenitified as a junk sender by my spam filtering. Very frustrating.
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"I have resolved to allow my friends their peculiarities." -- Samuel Johnson
 
 fluffythewondercat
 
posted on January 12, 2004 09:14:42 AM new
Question about headers. Can't they be altered too?

No, not really, not significantly.

A mail message goes through a relay process getting to you:

sender -> serverA -> serverB -> serverC -> serverD -> recipient

Each server prepends the message with header information. There is no human intervention. A human can configure a server so that it gives phony information; however, this generally doesn't happen. That would only be one hop (one component) in the path anyway.

Each hop in the path begins with "Received:"

Which address path is the originating one?

Since the message is prepended by each server, you read headers from the bottom UP. The last server message is the one at the top.

Sometime it appears they go through 3 or 4 paths, so which is which?

It's all one path, those are just different components.

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Fish are food, not friends.

[ edited by fluffythewondercat on Jan 12, 2004 09:15 AM ]
 
 giftsforall
 
posted on January 12, 2004 10:14:01 AM new
I had it happen to me in Oct. Not fun! I emailed the support staff to let them know. Just in case somebody thought I was really sending it out. It was not my main business email thank goodness.


 
 tradersjones
 
posted on January 12, 2004 10:31:17 AM new
Could it be a virus? Aren't there types that send out emails to everyone in your address book?

 
 fluffythewondercat
 
posted on January 12, 2004 10:37:52 AM new
Well, yes there are.

However, the angry emails from complete strangers are probably not a result of a virus run amok.

--
Fish are food, not friends.
 
 LifeIzGood
 
posted on January 12, 2004 11:39:35 AM new
Well hopefully they will tire of forging my email address. I have gotten about 20 more today. What a nuisance. So far I have not received any actual angry emails from anyone regarding these. All have been only "Non-Deliverable" stuff gone direct to my junk mail/trash bin. Will just have to wait and see.

 
 skylite
 
posted on January 12, 2004 11:54:54 AM new
hi LifeIzGood

try this, which helps me and i have so far have not any spams, believe it or not,
first download the lastest " AD-AWARE " program and use it once or twice a day, it will take the cookies out, which is one of the causes for spam
Second, do not sign or give your email away ever, even if some company offers you a billion dollars
Third, download a program called " Mailwasher "
Fourth i know people who have a hotmail account which seems to help for spam and viruses from coming unto your hard drive
Fifth, i use ADVANT as a browser, and not IE 6
even though it still mingles with IE, but for some reason this ADVANT browser, has helped also to prevent spam
some tricks that work for me, maybe might help you...........also do a regular disk cleanup for your computer at least once a day
[ edited by skylite on Jan 12, 2004 11:56 AM ]
 
 LifeIzGood
 
posted on January 12, 2004 12:13:17 PM new
Skylite,

I have AdSubtract and McAfee Spam Killer. My SPAM is pretty much undercontrol.

My Current problem is someone has sent out SPAM mail (not to me but to god knows who) and has forged my email address to be the "From" and "Reply To" addresses. What I'm getting now, are the emails that are undeliverable. This is how I found out about it to begin with.

 
 fluffythewondercat
 
posted on January 12, 2004 12:37:12 PM new
What I don't understand about all this is why the spammers don't just make up a fictitious return address. Why use a real one? There's no verification of email. Mail servers don't care whether or not the return address is real.

Unless they get some pleasure out of thinking an innocent person is going to get slammed with all the bounces and undeliverables.

People who send out UCE (unsolicited commercial email, aka spam) claim that they have a legitimate business purpose. But this hijacking of someone else's email address tends to negate that argument, don't you think?

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Fish are food, not friends.
 
 throughhiker
 
posted on January 13, 2004 05:33:52 AM new
OK all you smart people out there, I have a question about programs like Adware and Spybot.
How do I know what to "fix" once I have done a scan? Will anything be harmed if I just delete/fix everything that is tagged?

I am under the impression that there are good cookies. I you regularly shop at sites all your info is tagged to the cookie so you don;t have to type everything each time. If I clean all my cookies won't the site think I am a new customer? Can I tell what site a cookie is from?

Just a few "stupid" Questions
Don



 
 
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