paws4God
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posted on January 15, 2004 11:57:55 AM new
Can you believe people buy into this. If I could make that much selling on ebay I wouldn't bother selling $20 cd's. On the other hand maybe that's how he made so much.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3579691866&category=13539
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neglus
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posted on January 15, 2004 12:04:00 PM new
I dunno but I know I didn't stick around to read the whole auction because of that annoying "pop-up" BUY NOW box!
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glassgrl
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posted on January 15, 2004 12:12:05 PM new
YUCK! Is that box legal?
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ebayvet
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posted on January 15, 2004 12:32:36 PM new
What is amazing is he has a total of ONE negative, and is a powerseller with many positives...very interesting...
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Libra63
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posted on January 15, 2004 12:39:11 PM new
He has a lot of buyers. He must be doing something right. I think it is legal as he is selling his own motivational CD.
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glassgrl
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posted on January 15, 2004 12:40:05 PM new
no no no....is the Pop Up Box legal, not the CD.
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replaymedia
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posted on January 15, 2004 12:48:44 PM new
I'm with Neglus. That annoying box was so distracting that I didn't bother to read the ad!
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Games of all kinds!
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ebayauctionguy
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posted on January 15, 2004 01:12:45 PM new
I'm kinda suspicious about his feedback reviews in the auction description. I already noticed that he sneaked in a few reviews of himself by himself (no item #'s).
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fenix03
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posted on January 15, 2004 01:44:42 PM new
The box is legal and used in a number of auction. It is annyoing in its size and should be edited done but there is nothing illegal about putting a link to an ebay store item.
BTW - Lets say that that the seller is the speaker or his company. 5 months selling - average feedback is 323 a month. Let use that very conservative number, item prices range from $20 to 60 - letts say that the majority is low end sales average out at $25. Considering that the $3.50 shipping scharge would cover CD manufacturing cost, packaging and shipping, sale price is pure profit. So multiply 323 x $25 and you are bringing in $8075 a month. Add to that motivational speaking fees, material sales at seminars, etc ....Better than a stick in the eye.
The problem I have is that it's oversold. There is a point at which every sales person should just shut up and that pitch steamrolled over that point. Info overload. Oh yes - and my particular pet peeve... the text is to freaking large and there are too many colors. Rainbow text is sensory abuse and 1" letters remind me of 1st grade and makes me feel as though the seller thinks I am still on that level. Why would I buy from someone that treats me like a 6 year old?
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If it's really "common" sense, why do so few people actually have it?
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paws4God
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posted on January 15, 2004 02:01:53 PM new
fenix03````````
Well said.
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fenix03
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posted on January 15, 2004 03:22:51 PM new
Thank you 
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If it's really "common" sense, why do so few people actually have it?
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parklane64
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posted on January 15, 2004 04:37:49 PM new
This is Utah's version of cottage industry. I have worked for a similar venture. The best I saw was a two VCR tape deal to help protect your children. One for the adults to watch and guide the children, the other tape a hokie, but ok, tale about the dangers out theeeeere. An easy $50.
I think the whole thing is marketed right at people like fenix. You resemble those remarks, eh?
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sanmar
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posted on January 15, 2004 04:40:59 PM new
Did any of you by chance look at the # of feedbacks the buyers have? Most are newbies to eBay. Many have less than 100 +fdbcks
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AintRichYet
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posted on January 15, 2004 04:54:24 PM new
and his ONE neg. he has turned in for 'winning the bid and immediately leaving the neg' [or something to that effect]
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sallyhoffman
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posted on January 15, 2004 05:03:34 PM new
Parklane64, I'm curious about the video you mentioned. Without giving away "trade secrets", can you elaborate a bit more on the type of information this video talked about in terms of protecting children?
I'm just curious to know what material is covered in this video - do they teach the kids about pressure points so children can use that information against an attacker, do they demonstrate self defense techniques like those used in KidPower classes where the kids actually practice on "model muggers"? Is safety in cyberspace discussed?
There are a number of personal-safety related websites out there that deal with many of the above mentioned topics (these sites are a great resource for personal-safety related tips for adults too!):
http://www.gdbinc.com
http://www.safetychick.com
http://www.kidpower.org
http://www.wiredpatrol.org
http://www.cybearsurfer.net
http://www.cybercrime.gov
http://www.modelmugging.org
One of my 2004 New Year's resolutions is to take a basic Impact self-defense class and then enroll my children in the children's version of this class. I have the parent resource manual from the KidPower class to know exactly what my children will learn, and it is awesome! I have attended a graduation ceremony of a Model Mugging class, where the women participants demonstrate the various techniques they learned - it was extremely enlightening, scary (they get very realistic in role playing various scenarios), and hightly empowering to both the women who took the class and to all of us who were in the audience providing support to these ladies.
I am always on the look out for new personal safety related information. The latest book I read was called "A Girl's Gotta Do What a Girl's Gotta Do" by Kathleen Baty - she has the www.safetychick.com website listed above.
Excellent resource!
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kiara
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posted on January 15, 2004 06:03:09 PM new
Fenix, though the auction being discussed is a bit overdone I do believe that large font and rainbow colors work for some sellers, depending on their marketing tactics.
Many buyers don't read and I'm sure that when the auction description is broken up somewhat with different styles and colors, it may help the buyer to grasp a section at a time.
Visual impact is very important these days and most people seem to be attracted to picture images and colors. People today are in a hurry! I'd rather see large print and bright colors than those endless long descriptions with no line breaks........ blah, blah, boring and even more difficult to grasp.
Or maybe it's just me, maybe I've got less of an attention span as I age. 
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fenix03
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posted on January 15, 2004 08:58:28 PM new
All I know is that I had ever designed an ad with no less than 10 different colors without at least 8 of them being in the photosor graphics my old marketing director would sent me on an all expense paid vacation to the rest home for a week because it's obvious that I had lost my mind
Oviously from their sales numbers it works for him so there is some group of people that it works for it was not me. My curiosity about the product was immediately killed by the marketing style.
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If it's really "common" sense, why do so few people actually have it?
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upriver
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posted on January 15, 2004 11:54:39 PM new
Well, I dunno, in the last 30 days this fella ran 274 auction listings and managed to rake in the grand sum of $310.00 in sales.
Geez, deduct about half of that for listing fees, plus end of auction fees, and looks to me he made about $130.00, less of course his cost of producing each CD, and Paypal fees, and ouch! I think he cleared $14.98 or something like that...
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sanmar
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posted on January 16, 2004 12:15:30 AM new
Hey. he is making a wad for nothing. The same ad repeated over & over is a golden egg.
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Fenix03
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posted on January 16, 2004 12:57:06 AM new
Up - you might want to see if the offer a basic math course. Not counting store sales from what I counted they did at least 150 piece sales in the past two weeks at $20 each - that works out to $3000.
I'm assuming that someone there is smart enough to be producing these things themselves. An automated unit to burn and print CD (cool little gadget - load your masters, 100 blanks and come back in a couple hours) runs around about a $1000 - that has long been reabsorbed so we are now talking production costs a blank CD and toner cartridges - probably 25 cents.
Again - I wouldn't mind having a piece of that action.
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If it's really "common" sense, why do so few people actually have it?
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stonecold613
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posted on January 16, 2004 08:16:46 AM new
YUCK! Is that box legal?3
No. It was done with java script and is against ebay's tos. This one should be turned in.
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parklane64
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posted on January 17, 2004 06:24:27 PM new
Sally, it was one of those stranger danger types of learning. Never take candy or a ride from a stranger, don't tell a caller mommy isn't here right now, never answer the door by yourself. It was marketed to grandparents and new parents. The sellers bought lists, such as subscribers to parents magazines, gift registries, and warranty lists for car seats. They operated a continuous dialer and the pitch and objection response were completely scripted.
Have you ever been to a sales presentation for a Baby Tenda or sat through a time share presentation? The type of selling where all of your objections are funneled to a point where you are depriving yourself of something you really need, just to save a few pennies a day.
I dislike pressuring the customer into buying over-priced widgets and have been invited to leave a time share sales pitch more than once. Hehehe.
Another phenomenal gravy train is real estate and nothing down investing. The 'boiler room' for the Carleton Sheets no money down operation opened my eyes wide. There are people out there that send money to evangelical TV preachers, need I say more?
Fenix is bright enough to be insulted, but there is a certain point on the bell curve where the gewgaw come-on works very well.
(I think they are shooting themselves in the foot with that box, though)
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