TheFamilyBiz
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posted on July 4, 2004 01:31:15 PM new
Okay - stumped again... Any ideas on the maker of this sweet little plate? It's got a lot of marks, but can't seem to locate its origin - even after scouring Kovel's...
I can tell from the English Registry Mark (pictured) that it is a Ceramic Plate made on Nov. 21, 1882 -- but can't determine the manufacturer.
Sure could use some assistance if you're inside on the 4th...
Thanks in advance for your guidance,
Wayne
Never explain -- Your friends do not need it and your enemies will not believe you anyway.
~ Elbert Hubbard
[ edited by TheFamilyBiz on Jul 4, 2004 01:35 PM ]
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OhMsLucy
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posted on July 4, 2004 01:48:04 PM new
Hi Wayne,
Pretty plate!
Gildea & Walker? The pattern might be Regent but replacements.com didn't have an image posted. The description was griffons and flowers on the border.
Hope this helps...
Lucy
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TheFamilyBiz
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posted on July 4, 2004 01:58:18 PM new
Thanks, Lucy. Did see that at Replacements.com, but hoping someone here might have had seen something like this pattern.
I know it said Griffons & Flowers on the border, but really only see red stems or ribbons and flowers.
Hmmmm -- might just have to put the description up and hope for the best on this one.
Have a great "rest of the 4th!"
Wayne
Never explain -- Your friends do not need it and your enemies will not believe you anyway.
~ Elbert Hubbard
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Roadsmith
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posted on July 4, 2004 04:27:25 PM new
Is it possible G. & W. did a series of plates--maybe with girls' names and pictures? Could Cathleen be the girl on the plate? Could she be from a children's book?
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niel35
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posted on July 5, 2004 05:02:54 AM new
I can help you with the diamond registry mark, but maybe you already know about this.
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TheFamilyBiz
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posted on July 5, 2004 06:09:40 AM new
Niel,
As best I can tell, the English Registry mark indicates: Ceramic made on Nov. 21, 1882.
Anything else you can tell from it would be much appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Wayne
Never explain -- Your friends do not need it and your enemies will not believe you anyway.
~ Elbert Hubbard
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niel35
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posted on July 5, 2004 06:25:14 AM new
that's what I read too. Looked in my Kovels book but can't find anything on the maker yet.
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stopwhining
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posted on July 5, 2004 06:37:43 AM new
search EBAY-UK and see if you can find something similar.
-sig file -------we eat to live,not live to eat.
Benjamin Franklin
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niel35
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posted on July 5, 2004 06:46:49 AM new
In my English Pottery and Porcelain Marks by SW Fisher it says, "Gildea & Walker Burslem 1881-5. The mark first used by predecessors Bates Elliott & Co. c 1870 but without the words, TRADE MARK." I looked in Replacements under Bates Gildea & Walker and found Regent but it is not the one. Will keep looking
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kiara
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posted on July 5, 2004 07:26:35 AM new
niel35 has given the correct info and it is also in Geoffry Godden's Encyclopedia of British Pottery and Porcelain Marks.
The pattern names varied on the marks and were written on top so this pattern is called Cathleen.
Good luck with it, Wayne.
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TheFamilyBiz
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posted on July 5, 2004 09:16:08 AM new
Thanks, folks! You've pointed me in the right direction -- and added some info that I couldn't find, too.
I appreciate the assitance.
Wayne
Never explain -- Your friends do not need it and your enemies will not believe you anyway.
~ Elbert Hubbard
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niel35
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posted on July 5, 2004 09:22:55 AM new
I think it looks more like "Kathleen" but I may not be reading it correctly.
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TheFamilyBiz
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posted on July 5, 2004 09:26:45 AM new
You're right, Niel. It's a bit tough to see all of the "K" -- but, it's there.
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kiara
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posted on July 5, 2004 09:27:22 AM new
I think you're right about that. 
Now that I look closer I can see the "K".
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