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 nanntique
 
posted on May 1, 2005 08:47:46 PM new
Just sold a fairly high $$ item to a bidder in Taiwan, who states they will pay by PayPal.

Anything special that I need to be aware of in closing this transaction satisfactorily??

Thanks

nanntique

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 Sparkz
 
posted on May 1, 2005 08:52:38 PM new
You're kidding, right?


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 nanntique
 
posted on May 1, 2005 09:23:13 PM new
No, I'm not kidding at all.

I just got an Unconfirmed PayPal transaction for several hundred $$.
 
 Sparkz
 
posted on May 1, 2005 10:38:25 PM new
Sorry...I surmised that since you are an oldtimer here at Vendio/Auctionwatch that you were aware of the problems involved in accepting Paypal on international transactions. There have been quite a few threads recently discussing this type of situation. In fact, there is one on this very page. Basically, all international addresses are unconfirmed, hence no seller protection. If your buyer has an ounce of larceny in his heart, he can file for a chargeback claiming non-receipt of the item and you are virtually powerless to do anything about it. He winds up with the item and the money. You wind up holding an empty bag. Tell him you do not accept Paypal from users with unconfirmed addresses and the only payment options you accept on international transactions are Bidpay, International Postal money orders or cash in U.S. dollars sent via registered mail. Also, it would be safe to accept a Western Union Money Order via wire transfer, but he has already received an EOA from Ebay notifying him that method of payment is not recommended, so I wouldn't mention it unless he brings it up.


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 CBlev65252
 
posted on May 2, 2005 05:15:08 AM new
Don't send the item and return the payment! I don't sell to Taiwan period. Here are the other countries I don't sell to: Romania, Indonesia, Singapore, Ghana, Ukraine, Uganda, Nigeria, Hungary, Belarus, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Slovak Republic, Russia, Yugoslavia, Macedonia, Philippines, Thailand, Malaysia.

Listen to sparkz and take that advice.

Cheryl
 
 stopwhining
 
posted on May 2, 2005 06:31:26 AM new
I have taken many intl paypal payments and never have any problem,Taiwan is okay,like Singapore and Japan.
You have to decide how much you can afford to lose if it turns sour??
Credit card purchases are not that common in Asia,and filing chargeback is rare.
But then all it takes is one transaction went bad-............
You can ask him to use bidpay,or send money order.

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[ edited by stopwhining on May 2, 2005 06:32 AM ]
 
 fenix03
 
posted on May 2, 2005 08:26:52 AM new
:: Don't send the item and return the payment! I don't sell to Taiwan period::

There is no reason not to sell to poeople in Taiwan based soley on their country of origin. Taiwan is not known as a hotbed of fraud.

Just out of curiosity, how how many bidders do you get from Belarus?

I do find it ironic that you do not sell to residents of countries where your merchandise is manufactured
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If it's really "common" sense, why do so few people actually have it?
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 toolhound
 
posted on May 2, 2005 09:40:09 AM new
I have sold to Taiwan 4 or 5 times with no problems. All were PayPal payments on items around $100.00

 
 agitprop
 
posted on May 2, 2005 02:47:44 PM new
CBlev65252 wrote,

Don't send the item and return the payment! I don't sell to Taiwan period. Here are the other countries I don't sell to: Romania, Indonesia, Singapore, Ghana, Ukraine, Uganda, Nigeria, Hungary, Belarus, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Slovak Republic, Russia, Yugoslavia, Macedonia, Philippines, Thailand, Malaysia.

We have sold to Taiwan, Singapore, Ukraine, Belarus, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Russia, Philippines, Thailand, and Malaysia over the many years on eBay and direct via our websites without losing a cent. Of course, we don't accept PayPal or credit cards for international transactions - just plain old cash or (verified) MOs/bank drafts deposited into our bank accounts. Check the buyer's eBay feedback and buying history to detect irregularities and thus avoid any problems down the road.

 
 Sparkz
 
posted on May 2, 2005 03:58:08 PM new
I don't sell to Taiwan period. Here are the other countries I don't sell to: Romania, Indonesia, Singapore, Ghana, Ukraine, Uganda, Nigeria, Hungary, Belarus, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Slovak Republic, Russia, Yugoslavia, Macedonia, Philippines, Thailand, Malaysia.
Cheryl...If you're trying to avoid being defrauded, add New York City and Chicago, Illinois to that list

Toolhound...You've got a point there. I go to FedEx 3 times a week. They're out by the airport. The route I take is semi-rural with a 45 mph speed limit. I regurarly go 65 mph and have never had a problem. The traffic cops never go out that way. There is absolutely no chance whatsoever of me ever getting pulled over, so why should I pay attention to that speed limit sign?


A $75.00 solid state device will always blow first to protect a 25 cent fuse ~ Murphy's Law
 
 sthoemke
 
posted on May 2, 2005 06:38:48 PM new
If the buyer had decent feedback, and as long as the payment wasn't with a credit card (chargeback risk), I don't really see a problem. Maybe send item registered mail for peace of mind.

Or request buyer to send a Western Union money order, if you are concerned with the buyer for any reason.

 
 stonecold613
 
posted on May 2, 2005 08:50:18 PM new
Taiwan is not known as a hotbed of fraud.


Your kidding right? Taiwan is very high with PayPal fraud. Has been for some time. Personally, I would refund and ask for a safe form of payment.
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