magickalelements
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posted on June 6, 2005 11:33:21 PM new
Hi all,
I reciced this email a couple Minuites ago and am quite shocked actually, have no idea what to respond, at first i though it was one of those Nigeria Scams, but users Feedback is good although a couple sellers in his file are " no longer registerd "
What would you do ??
Dear magickalbuys,
Hi, my best friends are having a wedding in 10 days and I would like to make a present for them. I want it to be something special. For example your necklace packed in a gift wrap with a card inside . Also I want to to send $670 via Western Union to a bridegroomgroom as an additional part of my present. The only problem is I want to make them surprised and doesn't want them to know that the present is from me. I am looking for a seller who could help me with that. I will pay for a necklace, packaging, express shipping and WU fees of course. They live in Ukraine, not in the USA. Please let me know if you could help me with that! I want you to ship everything to him directly and to send the money present via Western Union either. I could even pay you for a trouble let's say $200 - please understand it's very important for me! I hope to hear from you soon!
Thank you,
starbeckkennel
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fenix03
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posted on June 6, 2005 11:48:09 PM new
Delete and move on. 
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No, I'm saying -- I'm merely -- I'm saying what I'm saying. I don't know why I'm always having people say, are you trying to say -- you know what you can do if you want to know what I'm saying is listen to what I'm saying. What I'm saying is what I said ...
- Ann Coulter
[ edited by fenix03 on Jun 6, 2005 11:48 PM ]
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estatesalestuff
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posted on June 7, 2005 12:28:38 AM new
magickal ... fenix is right ... it is a scam.
... edited to add, I'd gotten a very similarly worded scam before, too.
....... trust no one.
....... be vewwy vewwwy careful.
and hey magickal ... check the "'You have been outbid' spoof" thread that is going on here right now too ...
[ edited by estatesalestuff on Jun 7, 2005 12:32 AM ]
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bcpostcards
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posted on June 7, 2005 12:38:51 AM new
hoo boy...positively reeks of scam. Wouldn't touch it with a bargepole, even if I did have one. 
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stopwhining
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posted on June 7, 2005 05:12:30 AM new
why dont you ask him to send you the money first-either a western union money order or wiretransfer or cash.
-sig file -------
Eat grass,kick ass,never go belly up!
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magickalelements
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posted on June 7, 2005 08:07:45 AM new
Ya thas what i thought.
I got another this morning.
Should i report this to eBay?
Txs For the help.
Blessings Magick
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neglus
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posted on June 7, 2005 08:12:55 AM new
Yes report it ASAP - the user is not NARU (probably stolen id). Ebay will NARU in a hurry - send to [email protected]
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http://stores.ebay.com/Moody-Mommys-Marvelous-Postcards
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Roadsmith
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posted on June 7, 2005 08:29:59 AM new
RUN RUN RUN.
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sparkz
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posted on June 7, 2005 10:19:29 AM new
The word "Ukraine" should send up red flags. And the offer of such a high commission for your trouble is another warning. Forward this to Ebay, along with all headers immediately. I agree with Neglus, probably a hijacked account and I would imagine a stolen credit card or a counterfeit money order will surface down the line as part of the scam.
A $75.00 solid state device will always blow first to protect a 25 cent fuse ~ Murphy's Law
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magickalelements
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posted on June 7, 2005 06:17:05 PM new
How do i find the header ???
I`m using outlook, cant seem to find it, I know how to get in AOL but no clue in Outlook.
Help please ,
Magick
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bcpostcards
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posted on June 9, 2005 10:57:29 PM new
magick,
just forward the emails in question to [email protected] as sparkz suggested. The headers will be included automatically.
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If anyone wants to actually see the headers (in OE) to see for themselves if it is a spoof (or for whatever reason), here's the long answer on how to do it.
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If you're using Outlook Express you can check the headers/details/html in any email by right-clicking on the message in question, then clicking on "properties".
In the window that pops up choose the "details" tab, then click on "message source".
In the second window that (then) pops up,
there are two parts, the headers which span from from "Return-path:" to "Original-recipient:" and the second part, which has the html code that makes up the actual email message.
The headers show where the email came from (the routed points), the sender's email address and more. Even though some of the "fake" or "spoofed" info will show that it is coming from ebay as in "From: eBay <[email protected]>", in many spoof emails there will usually be a non-ebay email address that gives it away as a spoof, either in the headers at the beginning or in the second group, at the redirect portion that sends you to the spoofed ebay page.
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crowfarm
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posted on June 10, 2005 12:45:55 AM new
Even if by some fairy tale magic it WAS true...why would you even consider responding?
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stonecold613
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posted on June 10, 2005 01:56:44 PM new
Click delete and do nothing else. Even forwarding it to ebay will be a waste of time. They will do nothing at all. Just delete and quit losing sleep on it.
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Alive in 2005
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sthoemke
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posted on June 10, 2005 02:23:30 PM new
Its either a scam or a phish.
starbeckkennel only has 3 feedbacks in the last 12 months. I'd guess it is a highjacked account.
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=starbeckkennel
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local
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posted on June 10, 2005 07:02:17 PM new
Wow - what a coincidence. I had a similiar weird one this morning, but I didn't have time to do anything. I figured if I came to this board, there would be a thread. Here's mine - slightly different twist & user has no feedback. I later got an email from eBay.
"Hi Seller, Am much interesting in buying this book of your's to my Girlfriend in Metropolitan University in U.K and i'll want it gift wrap and i'll like to know if you can accept a USPS MONEY ORDER as a mode of payment, if yes you agreed get back to me now with your fullname, contact and address for immidiately payment and i promise you an addtional of $30 for the gift wrap of the item....GET BACK TO ME NOW."
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sparkz
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posted on June 10, 2005 07:09:16 PM new
Local...Where did this email originate?
A $75.00 solid state device will always blow first to protect a 25 cent fuse ~ Murphy's Law
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local
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posted on June 10, 2005 07:15:09 PM new
It came through eBay's Ask Seller a question. I checked this morning & saw this was a newbie. I did forward it to spoof@ebay. I just checked again & NARU! And from Singapore! They'll probably be back in business tomorrow with a different id. I think what struck me as odd - is why would someone offer to pay an extra $30 to gift wrap something?
Here is the seller id - karey3311
Anyone else have any weird messages?
[ edited by local on Jun 10, 2005 07:17 PM ]
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sparkz
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posted on June 10, 2005 07:20:04 PM new
Here's a copy of the headers from a spoof email I got today, allegedly from Paypal, even though I don't have a Paypal account. By looking closely you can see that it bounced around through a U.S. throw away account at a lax domain, but the actual origin was zappmobile.ro in Romania:
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from rly-xb01.mx.aol.com (rly-xb01.mail.aol.com [172.20.64.47]) by air-xb03.mail.aol.com (v106.2) with ESMTP id MAILINXB34-8742aa0203fa; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:11:44 -0400
Received: from mail752.megamailservers.com (mail752.megamailservers.com [69.49.98.62]) by rly-xb01.mx.aol.com (v106.2) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXB15-8742aa0203fa; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:11:31 -0400
X-Authenticated-User: admin.parazitus81.com
Received: from admin.parazitus81.com (cdma-3g1x-186-163.zappmobile.ro [80.97.186.163] (may be forged))
(authenticated bits=0)
by mail752.megamailservers.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with SMTP id j5AJZ2Ii030478
for <[email protected]>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:07:48 -0400
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: PayPal Account Limited
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:07:46 -0600
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="us-ascii"
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mail752.megamailservers.com id j5AJZ2Ii030478
X-AOL-IP: 69.49.98.62
X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:297612699:11327976
X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0
A $75.00 solid state device will always blow first to protect a 25 cent fuse ~ Murphy's Law
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local
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posted on June 10, 2005 07:24:35 PM new
Sparkz,
I use Microsoft Outlook XP. Is there a way to check source code? Besides this looks like a legitimate Question to Seller Regarding an item for sale.
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sparkz
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posted on June 10, 2005 07:49:25 PM new
Local...Bcpostcards posted the method for viewing the headers in OE. It's about 3 or 4 posts up. You won't be able to view the actual origin if it came through the Ask Seller A Question section of Ebay. It will probably only show Ebay's server information, which will make it look legitimate. This is the one fly in the ointment that I can see with communications through Ebay's system. There's no way to tell if the email originated in Nigeria or Wichita.
A $75.00 solid state device will always blow first to protect a 25 cent fuse ~ Murphy's Law
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sthoemke
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posted on June 10, 2005 08:01:38 PM new
"why would someone offer to pay an extra $30 to gift wrap something?"
No one in their right mind would pay an extra $30 to have an item gift wrapped.
Notice the promise of a USPS MONEY ORDER and GET BACK TO ME NOW in ALLCAPS.
They are trying to get you to respond to their email, so they can find out your email address, name, or other information.
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local
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posted on June 10, 2005 08:05:23 PM new
I know - that's what struck me as a possible scam - why would anyone offer to pay an extra $30 for gift wrap? Oh well, they are narued now. Who knows what the next scam will be!
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sparkz
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posted on June 10, 2005 08:06:10 PM new
Not to mention the major problem that is being suppressed by the P.O., which is a major operation counterfeiting U.S.P.S. money orders. It is so bad, that Wells Fargo bank will no longer cash a Postal money order.
A $75.00 solid state device will always blow first to protect a 25 cent fuse ~ Murphy's Law
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local
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posted on June 10, 2005 08:08:13 PM new
I didn't know that WF no longer takes them. So how can we protect ourselves? We can't stop taking USPS money orders!
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sparkz
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posted on June 10, 2005 08:20:11 PM new
I can still cash them at my wife's bank and also at Union Bank, but WF got burned big time when these things first hit and they put a systemwide ban on cashing them until such time they can train all their employees to spot the bad ones. You need to be able to recognize the watermark on the m/o, and cash it at a post office before you ship. The P.O. can cash them and instantly verify if it is legit. Also, they are having a problem with people buying a series of several money orders for $1.00 each and altering them to $51.00 or some other amount. The big problem WF has, is that it takes a minimum of 30 days for a postal m/o to clear, so if someone opens up a small account and cashes a bunch of them in one month, he can be long gone before the first one bounces back to them.
A $75.00 solid state device will always blow first to protect a 25 cent fuse ~ Murphy's Law
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local
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posted on June 10, 2005 08:24:59 PM new
We use Downey for our ebay business account & WF for personal acct.
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sparkz
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posted on June 10, 2005 08:43:26 PM new
The problem I have, is that my primary account is at WF, and the local post offices are all located in places that are hard to get to, have no parking, and long lines. So I have my wife cash them at her bank. She charges me a 50% commission 
A $75.00 solid state device will always blow first to protect a 25 cent fuse ~ Murphy's Law
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sthoemke
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posted on June 10, 2005 09:04:01 PM new
If a USPS money order is no good, altered, or fake, and you cash at your bank, you will be hit with a returned check fee.
It is best to cash them at the post office.
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magickalelements
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posted on June 11, 2005 09:17:15 AM new
Hi
So I did forward it to eBay and received thier reply yesterday"" There is no eBay account associated with that Email address"'
They said this how accounts get hijacked.
Luckily I was intellegant enough to not to respond.This person has since sent me 3 more emails, all of which i have forwarded to spoof.People think we are stupid I guess,or as Money Greedy as them.
Blessings All!
Magick
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