bizzycrocheting
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posted on July 2, 2005 11:20:33 AM new
Does this look like shill bidding to you? It seems odd that she won these items or bid them up, but her feedback is only at 3.
http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidItems&userid=mariam5863&sort=3&page=1&rows=25&completed=1&all=1
[ edited by bizzycrocheting on Jul 2, 2005 11:25 AM ]
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vintagepostcardsdotorg
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posted on July 2, 2005 11:22:53 AM new
hard to tell...she's only been a member for two days, and her feedbacks are all from different people. if anything, so far to me it looks like someone who may end up overextending herself.
http://stores.ebay.com/postcardspostcards
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bizzycrocheting
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posted on July 2, 2005 11:26:07 AM new
and look at this one too. It just seems odd that these two people are buying so much and from the same seller(s). And neither one is getting much feedback.
http://cgi6.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidItems&userid=xiaohong623&sort=3&page=1&rows=25&completed=1&all=1
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bizzycrocheting
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posted on July 2, 2005 11:35:59 AM new
Actually, Vintage, she signed up on May 31st. And the one that I am thinking of that she's shilling under left the seller fb, but the seller didn't leave her any. It's so odd. And the seller that I'm thinking of, her auctions weren't going so great and then BAM! These two come on the scene and she is getting OUTRAGEOUS prices for these books. It would be wonderful if she is really getting these prices, that's for sure! But, I just wonder ...
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glassgrl
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posted on July 2, 2005 12:05:05 PM new
http://tinyurl.com/7azw9
http://tinyurl.com/cgwtj
I wouldn't mind being kate_e_didit if they DID pay up!
Guess their not copies though. great looking pocketbooks!
[ edited by glassgrl on Jul 2, 2005 12:07 PM ]
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fenix03
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posted on July 2, 2005 01:14:59 PM new
bizzy - looks like yours is getting a bit of feedback but lots of repeats. Her rank may be 21 but her total recieved is 57. Plus all of those that are leaving her feedback have quite a bit themselves. Doesn't strike me as a shill bidder, just a very enthusiastic collector : )
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No, I'm saying -- I'm merely -- I'm saying what I'm saying. I don't know why I'm always having people say, are you trying to say -- you know what you can do if you want to know what I'm saying is listen to what I'm saying. What I'm saying is what I said ...
- Ann Coulter
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sthoemke
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posted on July 2, 2005 01:19:12 PM new
Looks like shill bidding to me.
She has RECEIVED feedback from 3 OTHER seller, and hasn't left feedback for any of them.
And she has LEFT 3 feedback from kate_e_didit, but kate_e_didit hasn't left her ANY feedbacks.
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sthoemke
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posted on July 2, 2005 01:25:32 PM new
xiaohong623 and mariam5863 seem to bid against each other.
I'm guessing mariam5863 is a shill account, and the seller is sending xiaohong623 second chance offers.
http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidItems&userid=mariam5863&completed=1&all=1&rows=200&sort=3
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sanmar
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posted on July 2, 2005 01:42:31 PM new
VERY SUSPICIOUS to me. 72 auctions & she has had a habd most of them. These 2 are working hand in glove. Too many for this be a coincidenence.
Life Is Too Short To Drink Bad Wine
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amber
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posted on July 2, 2005 04:30:22 PM new
Well, I have sold at least 9 of the same books in the past, and I got $8-12 for them, so you really do have to wonder what is going on. At first I thought that the bidder was buying up purse books, which would be reasonable, it could be a company, but there is quite an assortment of other items.
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sthoemke
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posted on July 2, 2005 05:50:12 PM new
All those auctions, and only 3 one-way feedbacks!!!
Looks like shill bidding to me.
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mcjane
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posted on July 2, 2005 05:59:24 PM new
I absolutely cannot believe xiaohong623 is going to pay all that money for those pattern books.
Bizzy, you know pattern books, are they really worth all that much?
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amber
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posted on July 2, 2005 06:26:27 PM new
mcjane: As I said ealier, I have sold at least 9 of those vintage purse books that sold for such high prices, my bids were no more than $15, and that was a good price. I sell craft books, and I have seen a few books go very high, but it is rare, and to have one seller have a whole bunch do so really raises a red flag. These books are not that rare.
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bizzycrocheting
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posted on July 2, 2005 06:38:01 PM new
McJane -- I have NEVER seen vintage pattern books go for this much. I have had a two newer (but out-of-print) pattern books (now this is in almost two YEARS of selling) go for quite a bit. My highest was $255 and the book was featured. Here is what made me suspicious. Perhaps someone can make this into a link for me.
http://search-completed.ebay.com/crochet-pattern_Crocheting_W0QQampq3bsspagenameZhQ3ahQ3aadvsearchQ3aUSQQcatrefZC12QQfclZ3QQfisZ2QQfromZR32QQfrppZ25QQfsclZ1QQfsooZ2QQfsopZ3QQsacatZ3094QQsacurZ0QQsaslopZ1QQsatitleZcrochetQ20patternQ2a
Diane
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bizzycrocheting
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posted on July 2, 2005 06:38:58 PM new
Gee ... I'm sorry! I didn't mean to screw up the thread! 
Diane
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bizzycrocheting
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posted on July 2, 2005 06:41:32 PM new
Amber -- You're right. I am listing a couple of the ones tonight that she sold just to see what mine would bring. I have much better pictures, too. This definitely raised a red flag with me. Take a look at my previous message and plug in the page. Notice who is consistently the high seller!
Diane
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amber
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posted on July 2, 2005 07:00:26 PM new
Diane: I checked the completed auctions on these books, and most of them averaged around $8 each, I think the highest was $46, which is a very good price. There are quite a few listed for sale, so why would anyone pay over $400!!
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mcjane
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posted on July 2, 2005 07:01:19 PM new
http://search-completed.ebay.com/crochet-pattern_Crocheting_W0QQampq3bsspagenameZhQ3ahQ3aadvsearchQ3aUSQQcatrefZC12QQfclZ3QQfisZ2QQfromZR32QQfrppZ25QQfsclZ1QQfsooZ2QQfsopZ3QQsacatZ3094QQsacurZ0QQsaslopZ1QQsatitleZcrochetQ20patternQ2a
bizzy & amber, I can't figure out what is going on or if xiaohong623 is in on it or really stupid.
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bizzycrocheting
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posted on July 2, 2005 07:07:51 PM new
I can't figure out what is going on either, McJane! That's why I posted my suspicions here to see if someone else can try to make sense of it all!
Diane
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bizzycrocheting
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posted on July 2, 2005 07:13:16 PM new
Here is one of mine that I have put up tonight. I think my pictures are much better. Put it on your watch list if you're interested to see what it brings. These pattern books pretty easy to find on ebay. That is why I am so stumped at how she is selling hers for so high!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8202980203&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1
Diane
Edited to add that I even listing mine similar to hers (and yet set it apart so that my customers know it is my listing) as a type of comparison. I was really curious as to what would happen.
[ edited by bizzycrocheting on Jul 2, 2005 07:15 PM ]
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fenix03
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posted on July 2, 2005 09:33:46 PM new
There is another option... Mariam could just be a vengeful bidder. I used to have someone that bid on all of the same stuff I bid on. I knew this person and they used to drive me nuts so after awhile I used to place high bids on low quality versons of the items just to drive them into spending more. After about 4 months they had an extensive collection of very expensive, incredibly average widgets and eventually they went away.
Even now there have been times when some bidder annoys me so I drive the high bid up on them. Of course I justify it by saying that I am helping out the seller 
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No, I'm saying -- I'm merely -- I'm saying what I'm saying. I don't know why I'm always having people say, are you trying to say -- you know what you can do if you want to know what I'm saying is listen to what I'm saying. What I'm saying is what I said ...
- Ann Coulter
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sparkz
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posted on July 2, 2005 09:57:36 PM new
It's interesting that this cozy little group follows each other from the U.S. Ebay site to the U.K. Ebay site. They all seem to show up in the same place at the same time. Coincidence? If they get caught and booted on the U.S. site, they can still continue on the U.K. site.
A $75.00 solid state device will always blow first to protect a 25 cent fuse ~ Murphy's Law
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twig125silver
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posted on July 3, 2005 05:28:37 AM new
Corde Bags....Coming soon to a Walmart near you......
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stopwhining
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posted on July 3, 2005 05:56:19 AM new
there are also autorepair and notaryresources as sellers,check the way they leave feedback,all use THANK YOU VERY MUCH over and over again.
may be Xao is Asian and wants to reproduce all these patterns in his factory for Walmart.
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Eat grass,kick ass,never go belly up!
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fenix03
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posted on July 3, 2005 08:07:51 AM new
I was wondering the same thing. $200 for a pattern book is not all the unreasonable if it nets you 40 new patterns to program into your Chinese based crochet machines.
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No, I'm saying -- I'm merely -- I'm saying what I'm saying. I don't know why I'm always having people say, are you trying to say -- you know what you can do if you want to know what I'm saying is listen to what I'm saying. What I'm saying is what I said ...
- Ann Coulter
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stopwhining
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posted on July 3, 2005 08:24:48 AM new
could be the Chinese wants to do nothing but crochet up a big storm in front of their TV set in the evening .
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