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 kasue
 
posted on July 12, 2005 03:15:10 PM new
A guy won a fountain pen. Never heard from him. I filed a NPB. Now eleven days after filing the NPB, I was looking around the help pages trying to find out the next step to getting my fees reimbursed. I found the "Dispute Console". It indicated that there was action I needed to take. I opened it up and the NPB had stated that he was sorry and would send a check. It isn't dated. How do I know when that statement was made? Shouldn't I have gotten a notice that he had replied to the NPB complaint I got? Heck, Ebay has everything else automated, why not that? I didn't even know there was a "Dispute Console". I know, ignorance is no excuse. Since his replay wasn't dated, I have no idea whether to wait a few more days or if it has already been way long enough. Any ideas?

 
 kasue
 
posted on July 12, 2005 03:30:36 PM new
Amazing. As soon as I posted my question to this board, an email came in saying a Bidpay payment was pending. It is for the fountain pen! This leads me to believe that he had just today posted on the Dispute Console that he was going to pay. This is eleven days after I filed the NPB form. I hope Speedy Gonzalez doesn't expect positive feedback. Ebay needs to have postings dated in the Dispute Console.

 
 max40
 
posted on July 12, 2005 03:43:16 PM new
They are dated. You have to scroll to the far right of the screen to see them.
 
 kasue
 
posted on July 12, 2005 03:51:54 PM new
Thanks, max40! I filed the NPB on July 1 and he replied on July 2 that he was sending a check THAT DAY! So now today I finally get a payment pending from BidPay. What a peach. He is definitely going into my bidders block file.

 
 max40
 
posted on July 12, 2005 04:38:21 PM new
I receive a notice from eBay when one of my NPB's replies to the notice. It is found on "MY EBAY" selling page, left side. MESSAGES will have a number by it. Click on it.
 
 kasue
 
posted on July 12, 2005 05:32:23 PM new
Great. I have been trying not to use "My Ebay". I avoid using any more doodads on Ebay, PayPal or Vendio than I have to. I figure once I get used to using something, they will start charging for it.

 
 max40
 
posted on July 12, 2005 06:52:53 PM new
LOL
 
 fenix03
 
posted on July 12, 2005 07:13:51 PM new
So in otherwords... all of the negative things you were attributing to ebay were actualy the result of you not taking the time to know your marketplace. You should explore some more, who know what you may discover.
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No, I'm saying -- I'm merely -- I'm saying what I'm saying. I don't know why I'm always having people say, are you trying to say -- you know what you can do if you want to know what I'm saying is listen to what I'm saying. What I'm saying is what I said ...

- Ann Coulter
 
 kasue
 
posted on July 12, 2005 07:38:28 PM new
No, "Ann". I knew about My Ebay, I chose not to use it. Too many bells and whistles on these sites are unnecessary, as far as I am concerned.

 
 stonecold613
 
posted on July 12, 2005 08:38:57 PM new
I hate the MY Ebay pages as well. I find them way too cumbersome to waste time with them..

Here is a link so you can go directly to the ebay dispute page.

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewDisputeConsole
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Alive in 2005
 
 fenix03
 
posted on July 12, 2005 08:51:05 PM new
So you chose to not use aspects of the site and then complained that they were not aware of them.... Well yeah... that's logical.

::head shake::


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No, I'm saying -- I'm merely -- I'm saying what I'm saying. I don't know why I'm always having people say, are you trying to say -- you know what you can do if you want to know what I'm saying is listen to what I'm saying. What I'm saying is what I said ...

- Ann Coulter
 
 kasue
 
posted on July 12, 2005 09:37:01 PM new
Thank you, stonecold! fenox03, a lot of the stuff on Ebay is more trouble than it needs to be. An excellent example are their chat room/message boards. That's why people that don't even use vendio come here! Ebay wants everything to go through them. They don't want buyers to email sellers directly. They want every question and answer to show up on the listing. Good lord. When they send the winner a notice that they have won, they include a link where they should contact the seller and request payment information. Winners are ignoring my personal EOA and using the "click, pay now" link provided by Ebay. I get the "click, pay now" sent to me minutes after the auction ends. It passes my EOA. It makes everything confusing when it doesn't need to be. It shouldn't be in the congratulatory message that Ebay sends to the winner. Too many bells and whistles being added all the time. Who can keep up with them and who wants to? They will just change them.

 
 fenix03
 
posted on July 12, 2005 10:12:08 PM new
::They want every question and answer to show up on the listing. Good lord.::

Um... NO. If they wanted every question and answer to appear in the auction then having them appear would be the default. Instead they make it an option that your can choose since I am sure that most of us have experienced a question from a bidder that asks for information that we did not realise should have been in the listing. I.e. - I sold an old turntable a right the messaging system started. The second day I got a question asking if it included the stylus... well that's a dumb question I thought, of course it does. But I got the question a couple more times that day. Thanks to the option to include I did not have to answer the question 72 more times or go thru auction revision, I just clicked the Include in Auction box.

::When they send the winner a notice that they have won, they include a link where they should contact the seller and request payment information. Winners are ignoring my personal EOA and using the "click, pay now" link provided by Ebay.::

Well, use the auto redirect. Vendio does offer that doesn't it?

::Too many bells and whistles being added all the time. Who can keep up with them and who wants to? They will just change them.::

Somehow I don't think that the large number of sellers that do not use listing programs consider EOA notices as "Bells and Whistles". You have chosen to use another system. I don't think it's quite fair to complain about ebays basic service simply because you have chosen to include outside bells and whistles but are not properly utilizing them.


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No, I'm saying -- I'm merely -- I'm saying what I'm saying. I don't know why I'm always having people say, are you trying to say -- you know what you can do if you want to know what I'm saying is listen to what I'm saying. What I'm saying is what I said ...

- Ann Coulter
 
 kasue
 
posted on July 12, 2005 10:27:37 PM new
fenix, I am so glad you are on the computer screen and not in this room, because here I have the OPTION to not select "Email notification". Good night!

 
 dblfugger9
 
posted on July 13, 2005 02:46:26 AM new
kasue, dont worry about fenix. She is our all news/all opinion on everything/all the time resident internet junkie. If there's bells to be rung and whistles to be blown; she's ringing em and she's a blowen em! Toot! Toot! (And you can bet if it aint out one end, it sure is out the other! And the gas usually comes with a wink attached.)

Odd thing though, she doesnt seem to realize that somebody else may not particularly want to think, be like, or operate like her. But imagine that!! A different train happily on a another track! But as you said, lucky for you and most of us you can shut off the Toot! Toot! Tooting! of her own 24/7 horn when you want to.

 
 davebraun
 
posted on July 13, 2005 04:46:04 AM new
You wouldn't want to drive without being familiar with the controls...then again maybe you would!

 
 kasue
 
posted on July 13, 2005 08:07:59 AM new
Good morning! fenix, As far as I can recall, I don't think I use ANY system's bells and whistles other than have vendio host my pictures and the most basic parts of their sales manager I can. I don't need or want all that junk. I do about 30 auctions a week at the most. When the auction ends, I have a basic letter I cut and paste into an email and add specifics to it.

"If they wanted every question and answer to appear in the auction then having them appear would be the default. Instead they make it an option that your can choose ..." GOOD POINT, FENIX, I AGREE WITH YOU.

"Well, use the auto redirect. Vendio does offer that doesn't it?" SURE! IF I WANT TO PAY FOR ANOTHER BELL AND WHISTLE!

"Somehow I don't think that the large number of sellers that do not use listing programs consider EOA notices as "Bells and Whistles". You have chosen to use another system. I don't think it's quite fair to complain about ebays basic service simply because you have chosen to include outside bells and whistles but are not properly utilizing them." WHAT OUTSIDE BELLS AND WHISTLES AM I UTILIZING? Nothing I can think of. Ebay sends the seller an EOA notice with a link to "Create Invoice" at the same time they are sending the buyer an EOA notice with a link "Request Total". If both people are contacting each other at the same time, you have no way of knowing if either received the message or not! I have in my Vendio auctions to please allow me to contact them when the auction closes. Of course, they don't wait because Ebay has sent them a notice containing a link "Request Total". It causes confusion and repeat emails to get it straightened out.
DAVE: I consider the passenger air, built-in compass, automatic door locks, etc. in my mini van to be unnecessary bells and whistles. My husband doesn't see it that way!

DBLFUGGER: You are a hoot!


 
 fenix03
 
posted on July 13, 2005 09:31:29 AM new
Shock of shocks - Dbl is once again desperate to make herself heard but since she has nothing to add to the actual conversation she decides to comments on me... Poor baby. No body will play with you in RT so you decided come here?


Kasue - Morning to you too My mistake - I was under the impression that you were using Vendio's auction listing aspects, not just their image hosting. As for blaming ebays letter for people contacting you...don't. Haven't you figured out that no one actually reads sellers terms Seriously though, the point I was trying to make is that there are many aspects of ebays "bells and whistles" that really can make your life easier. Rather than dismiss them out of hand simply because ebay created them, explore them... you never know what you may discover that really can help.


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No, I'm saying -- I'm merely -- I'm saying what I'm saying. I don't know why I'm always having people say, are you trying to say -- you know what you can do if you want to know what I'm saying is listen to what I'm saying. What I'm saying is what I said ...

- Ann Coulter
[ edited by fenix03 on Jul 13, 2005 09:52 AM ]
 
 dblfugger9
 
posted on July 13, 2005 10:22:20 AM new
I havent been on the round table for days, uncle arthur - because unlike you, my world doesnt revolve around something electronic to reach out and communicate with somebody. The last I was there was to correct your silly statements 1. Cosby exists in the world he is speaking about...(what a joke that statement is!) and 2. Rove said wilsons wife was a spy. You'd think as much as you have the news on to talk at you, you'd get it right once in awhile.

Kasue, I think there is a certain element of programming that should allow for the individual user to perform and conduct their business how they want to. And I think ebay IS closing in to sew it up for us to all be automated the same. Or per how THEY want it.

You are right in that now the questions are in your my ebay, and also your mailbox. But how long do you think that will last? So as much as they claim they are only a venue, I can see the future moving towards all transmissions through ebay, and probably evenutally payments by paypal only, too. If they can get it to that. The bigger the monopoly, the more the controls are laid down.

Now I dont think I missed that point - or that miss goodie two shoes big business marketing advocate thinks its a good thing for everybody.

 
 trai
 
posted on July 13, 2005 10:55:01 AM new
I havent been on the round table for days, uncle arthur - because unlike you, my world doesnt revolve around something electronic to reach out and communicate with somebody.

You were posting on the Rove thread just yesterday on the RT so obviously you must be somewhat confused as usual.

 
 dblfugger9
 
posted on July 13, 2005 11:39:26 AM new
Trai, I dont think you can read too well. But the pizzaass washer-woman you are, you have to find something to say anyway!



 
 fenix03
 
posted on July 13, 2005 12:27:40 PM new
Dbl - it's very hard for me to buy into "I have a full and wonderful life" routine you keep trying to sell when you keep coming back to this obsessive need to anylise and comment on mine. I really feel bad for you hon. To be so focused on trying to make someone feel guilty or bad, or whatever the point of your constant commenting is, about their life is a sad statement on your own. Someday maybe you will feel fulfilled enough that you don't need to attempt to tear others down just to build yourself up. I hope that day comes soon.


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No, I'm saying -- I'm merely -- I'm saying what I'm saying. I don't know why I'm always having people say, are you trying to say -- you know what you can do if you want to know what I'm saying is listen to what I'm saying. What I'm saying is what I said ...

- Ann Coulter
 
 dblfugger9
 
posted on July 13, 2005 12:46:18 PM new
To be so focused on trying to make someone feel guilty or bad, or whatever the point of your constant commenting is.....Someday maybe you will feel fulfilled enough that you don't need to attempt to tear others down just to build yourself up.

Sorry fenix, hon,dearie there - that is what YOU do on these boards!! The only reason I posted to this thread was because of YOUR attempt to tell kasue she was wrong or stupid about how she felt about ebay controlling so much of what she wants to do with HER business with them. If you need to feel sorry for somebody, try finding somebody thats actually around you - like go look in the mirror at yourself.



 
 fenix03
 
posted on July 13, 2005 01:26:00 PM new
It does not shock me that you completely twisted the situation... it fits with your thought process. The difference is that I directly addressed the issues at hand but you are once again much more inclined to attack the messenger because you have no input on the message but absolutely must be heard. Hopefully Crow comes back this weekend so that you have someone to play with because I'll be gone a few days and I wouldn't want you to get lonely.


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No, I'm saying -- I'm merely -- I'm saying what I'm saying. I don't know why I'm always having people say, are you trying to say -- you know what you can do if you want to know what I'm saying is listen to what I'm saying. What I'm saying is what I said ...

- Ann Coulter
 
 dblfugger9
 
posted on July 13, 2005 02:43:22 PM new
LOL! Sorry there spock you've got it wrong again. *I* actually saw the message. Which was the poster felt ebay was doing things beyond her control, and it was hassleing her. Whereas you only choose to talk down and preach to the poster.

btw, how do you know when crows coming back? Oh yeah, one and the same. Talk about keeping track of people! Just another finger on the sock puppet for you, eh? It's amazing your thought process has no concept that maybe people want to read something other than your daily drivel at 8:00 am!! 4:00 pm!! 6:00 AM!! 9:00 pm! 12:00 AM!! You and crowfarm are two peas in a pod good for that: Harp around the clock Hogs. Has it ever occured to you maybe people want to process something other than what you post here,..something posted by some body else besides your sniveling comments on every damn subject under the sun - everyday?!! No. Probably not. Because obviously you think what you post is somehow more important and must get to this board more than what anybody else posts.



 
 trai
 
posted on July 13, 2005 03:06:42 PM new
Trai, I dont think you can read too well. But the pizzaass washer-woman you are, you have to find something to say anyway!

Nothing wrong with my reading skills and the post is still there.
pizzaass washer-woman? What's this? Finished your laundry and now its happy hour and pill popping time again?

 
 fenix03
 
posted on July 13, 2005 03:46:26 PM new
::btw, how do you know when crows coming back? Oh yeah, one and the same. ::

No sweetie pie - that particular brand of board paranioa is all yours. BTW - if you don't want to read what I have to say... utilize a little self control... don't read it... or at least stop responding. Now, I am bored with you little girl, go a find a new friend. Shoo!!
~~~ • ~~~ • ~~~ • ~~~ • ~~~
No, I'm saying -- I'm merely -- I'm saying what I'm saying. I don't know why I'm always having people say, are you trying to say -- you know what you can do if you want to know what I'm saying is listen to what I'm saying. What I'm saying is what I said ...

- Ann Coulter
 
 dblfugger9
 
posted on July 13, 2005 05:18:11 PM new
BTW - if you don't want to read what I have to say... utilize a little self control... don't read it... or at least stop responding

And yet another important post by the jimmeycricket mutant over here. Just addressing the topic! ~Natch! It's too bad you cant apply your own solutions to yourself! Utlizle a little self-control. Stop responding!!

Why dont you go take yourself a good crap[ola fenix youre obviouslly totally clogged up with your own stink! But make sure you walk with your lap top so you dont miss anything happening on the internet anywhere for five minutes!!

 
 
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