masterthegame
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posted on February 25, 2006 04:57:46 PM new
I am currently the high bidder on a piece of equipment with electronic components. The description says item has been tested and works fine. The questions and answers posted on the auction page since my bid reveals that the machine MAY have been dropped which could affect the electronics. Auction ends on the 26th (tomorrow night). Bid retraction is a possibility, but the explanations don’t fit my situation. Opinions please.
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tOMWiii
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posted on February 25, 2006 05:10:15 PM new
Did you contact SELLER with your concern/question?
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hwahwa
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posted on February 25, 2006 05:19:29 PM new
just use the reason-enter the wrong amount.
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masterthegame
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posted on February 25, 2006 05:25:48 PM new
tOMWiii I asked for clarification and expressed my concern, but no response yet. No other questions have been posted since I sent my email.
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masterthegame
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posted on February 25, 2006 05:28:00 PM new
hwahwa I could retract and say I entered the wrong amount, but it has been over 24 hours since I bid. I believe that if I use that reason I am expected to bid again with the CORRECT amount.
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OhMsLucy
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posted on February 25, 2006 05:38:13 PM new
Seems like with the questions and answers you mentioned the item description has changed significantly...
Lucy
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masterthegame
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posted on February 25, 2006 05:52:38 PM new
OhMsLucy, so you think the question/answer section qualifies as a change in item description? If so, I have a clear reason for retracting. Thanks.
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OhMsLucy
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posted on February 25, 2006 06:08:19 PM new
Well, Master, yes, I think it does change the description.
There are others here who know LOTS more about electronics than I. Still, even if it "works fine" it may have hidden damage.
Seems if the seller had said "it may have been dropped but has been tested and works fine" that would be different.
JMHO
Lucy
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masterthegame
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posted on February 25, 2006 06:12:56 PM new
Thanks, Lucy. Hopefully, the seller will address my concerns by early morning at which time I will decide whether to retract.
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OhMsLucy
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posted on February 25, 2006 06:25:34 PM new
Of course you know you need to retract BEFORE the last 12 hours of the listing.
Hopefully you'll hear from the seller in plenty of time.
Lucy
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masterthegame
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posted on February 25, 2006 06:36:09 PM new
I just finished reading the bid retraction rules. I will watch the clock carefully. Thanks to everyone for the information.
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roadsmith
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posted on February 25, 2006 07:20:22 PM new
The red flag for me would be not getting an answer from the seller--and he may, now, be answering questions about the item but not opting for the Q and A to show on the auction page--so you wouldn't know if others have asked questions and gotten answers that may sound negative about the item.
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masterthegame
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posted on February 25, 2006 07:30:37 PM new
Roadsmith, I now have red flags flying all over the place. I didn't know sellers (I'm not one - I just spend spend spend) could pick and choose the questions to post. phooey. If I don't get a response by very early am, I will definitely retract my bid. A question for you: Do sellers get notified by eBay when a retraction occurs or do they simply see it listed at the bottom of the bidders list??? Can seller cause me any difficulty with eBay other than block me from bidding on his/her auctions?
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OhMsLucy
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posted on February 25, 2006 07:40:24 PM new
Hi all,
Master, it's been quite a while but I think sellers do get an email when a bid is retracted. Someone else here will know for sure.
You know, it might be a good plan to just retract now. Could save yourself a lot of grief later on. No matter what it is you're bidding on there will be another on eBay sooner or later.
If it turns out the item does have damage caused by dropping the seller could claim it happened in shipping.
JMHO
Lucy
Edited to add: I can't think of anything the seller could do to you besides put you on his blocked bidder list. Which I doubt would cause you any significant pain! 
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roadsmith
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posted on February 25, 2006 07:42:27 PM new
Yes, when I answer questions from potential buyers, I can check a box that allows the Q&A to appear on the auction page (at the very bottom of the page, always) and also a box that hides my e-mail address from the questioner. There's another box I never pay attention to and can't remember right now, LOL. In the past few weeks I've chosen NOT to have a certain Q&A on the auction page occasionally--not to be deceptive but for some other good reasons.
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masterthegame
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posted on February 25, 2006 08:04:53 PM new
Deed is done. I retracted my bid. Thanks for your help.
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sparkz
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posted on February 25, 2006 08:10:42 PM new
Too many red flags to suit me. I would retract now. The fact that the description has changed gives you a perfectly legitimate excuse to do so. You can always snipe if he contacts you and gives you some straight answers before the auction ends. My main concern with any electronic component that has been dropped would be a cracked pc board. If he won't give you a money back guarantee against such a flaw, you are better off without it. Is this seller an amateur, or does he sell a lot of electronics? How qualified is he to render an opinion as to the condition that you would be comfortable with? Are you talking about a garage door opener that can be shipped back for $5.00, or is it something like a spectrum analyzer that will cost $75.00 (out of your pocket) to send back? If you smell a rat, there's a good chance there is one lurking somewhere. It's highly unlikely this is a one of a kind item that will not be offered by a reputable seller in the future. Save your money and deal with the seller who will answer your questions to your satisfaction.
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masterthegame
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posted on February 25, 2006 08:23:20 PM new
sparkz, It was the shipping that finally convinced me to retract - $45 each way plus the hassle. Seller could be out of town for a few days; that would explain the delay in responding to my questions. I was considering getting the contact information and maybe giving a call, but decided even that was too much work right now.
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OhMsLucy
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posted on February 25, 2006 08:27:13 PM new
Master, I'm glad you decided to retract the bid. Sparkz knows all there is to know about electronics.
Lucy
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hwahwa
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posted on February 25, 2006 08:34:06 PM new
it is rather common for bidder to use the reason 'enter the wrong amount' when retracting the bid,usually they dont come back and bid again.
What they mean to say is that they have found a cheaper/better item elsewhere,it is called bidder remorse.
I dont know what you are bidding on,45 dollars shipping ??
What kind of question from a prospective bidder will prompt a seller to reveal it has been dropped ??
/ lets all stop whining !! /
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stonecold613
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posted on February 26, 2006 08:11:28 AM new
Good thing you retracted. Just too many red flags. If the seller was worth a damm, he/she would have responded in a reasonable amount of time.
The shipping might be legite though. Depends upon weight and size of the item.
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