blueyes29
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posted on February 16, 2007 04:13:37 PM new
Just want to clarify something before responding to a buyer in China (Beijing) who has sent a PayPal payment. His address is "unconfirmed". It's my understanding that, in order to have an address "confirmed", the person has to have a credit card on file with PayPal...Is this correct?
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max40
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posted on February 16, 2007 04:38:38 PM new
I thought it was bank account. I've been wrong before.
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merrie
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posted on February 16, 2007 04:40:19 PM new
To be confirmed the address on the credit card must match the shipping address, but most foreign countries do not have confirmed addresses through PayPal. My understanding is the only US, Canada and UK are confirmed. I may be missing a few countries.
[ edited by merrie on Feb 16, 2007 04:40 PM ]
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agate18
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posted on February 16, 2007 05:48:38 PM new
AUSTRALIA.
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hwahwa
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posted on February 16, 2007 06:19:51 PM new
Say if his address is confirmed,you still have to ship with trackable DC to get seller protection.
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agitprop
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posted on February 16, 2007 07:20:06 PM new
blueyes29,
Doesn't matter if your buyer in Beijing has a confirmed address or not - you get ZERO payPal seller protection for ALL shipments to the Middle Kingdom aka PRC. Most Chinese do not have credit cards - they use bank debit cards and huge wads of cash.
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blueyes29
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posted on February 16, 2007 09:28:25 PM new
I know...he keeps asking me to accept his PayPal payment (I've already refunded it)...and keep telling him about BidPay. I'd really hate to lose the sale but won't ship to his unconfirmed address...we'll see what happens.
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roadsmith
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posted on February 16, 2007 09:44:03 PM new
Well-concealed cash is another way to go. That's worked for me about a dozen times.
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hwahwa
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posted on February 17, 2007 08:14:27 AM new
The new BIDPAY is just like Paypal,go to its website!
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tomwiii
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posted on February 17, 2007 08:36:49 AM new
Haa-haa:
In what manner is the new, un-improved BidPay superior to PayPal as far as international shipments is concerned?
To me, BidPay was WUNDERFULL when they did MOs, but is severely resricted now that they ONLY do downloads into one's checking account...
PLUS, their "protection policies" seem un-necessarily obtuse to me & Ralphie...OR, have they changed recently?
Again, Ralphie stresses that one should assess one's RISK TOLERANCE LEVEL before accepting ANY payment method for INTERNATIONAL shipping...
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merrie
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posted on February 17, 2007 08:40:23 AM new
I agree about the risk tolerance for international. I have a frequent buyer from Australia, she is very patient. She always pays for upgraded shipping, but some times it still takes months. Packages have always arrived, but if she was not patient and familiar with me I am sure there would have been problems.
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hwahwa
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posted on February 17, 2007 01:57:49 PM new
Tom,
Did I say Bidpay is superior to Paypal?
I mean the new Bidpay is like Paypal,it does not sell money order.
So asking your intl bidder to use Bidpay buy you nothing!
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tomwiii
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posted on February 17, 2007 07:38:37 PM new
I'm so confused...
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blueyes29
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posted on February 17, 2007 11:10:32 PM new
Guess I was thinking the "new" BidPay was essentially like the "old" one and need to look into it. I guess it all boils down to the question...Is the really and truly only safe way to send items to international customers through insured mail? That way, if there are any receipt problems, the seller can absolutely prove that the item was sent and won't have to worry about chargbacks or PayPal problems?
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merrie
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posted on February 18, 2007 06:55:05 AM new
Receipt showing you mailed a pckage does not cover you for charge backs, only if you can show that the package was delivered to the buyer, not that it was sent. That is why you you need insurance. If the package was sent and you can prove that, but no proof of delivery, you have an insurance claim, but the buyer can still do a chargeback saying they never recieved it. The seller is left holding the bag in almost every scenario.
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agitprop
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posted on February 18, 2007 02:20:23 PM new
blueyes29 wrote: Is the really and truly only safe way to send items to international customers through insured mail? That way, if there are any receipt problems, the seller can absolutely prove that the item was sent and won't have to worry about chargbacks or PayPal problems?
Insured mail doesn't fully protect you against chargebacks or PayPal problems. Insured mail may provide compensation provided the buyer is willing to cooperate with the Post Office investigation. However, "non-delivery" scammers will usually be reluctant to cooperate with authorities in investigating any claims, especially signing any official forms. This usually sorts out the real lost packages from the PayPal scammers that make a claim for "non-delivery" after getting the item.
I weeded out most "non-delivery" scammers by insisting on track-n-trace with signature required for all PayPal transactions (costs around US$30+ for international). Most opt to pay by bank transfer or money order and have their package sent regular Airmail which includes insurance as standard.
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