shagmidmod
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posted on October 2, 2008 09:22:53 AM new
So I was going through some dead stock from my retail store and found some novelty items that we carried for a few years, but pulled b/c they weren't selling well. I decided to blow them out in lots on ebay.
This is the auction...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360088981129
though i got positive feedback (no idea on the DSR), this was the message, "Pin up kits are modern reprints which was not noted on the ad. Still a fair deal"
I didn't even consider to use the word "NEW" or that someone would think they were originals. Maybe it is me, but when I went back to see what his beef was, I was surprised that someone actually assumed the lot was vintage. There was nothing that indicated it was vintage. The photos show the item in shrink wrap, and it notes in the description: "retail: $9.95".
I never heard from the bidder either.
I know I got a positive and should be happy with that, but with the DSR ratings it really can make a difference. I guess my point in all of this is shedding light on just how backwards the rating system is... or at least how it affects our ability to sell and at what costs.
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carolinetyler
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posted on October 2, 2008 10:11:36 AM new
What the buyer was complaining about was he wanted something for nothing - in his mind, he had hoped these were valuable 'new/old stock' items worth hundreds and you were just a stupid seller who did not realize that. Of course, he didn't want to ask any questions because he didn't want to tip you off.
I just had my rating lowered because of another international buyer slamming me on shipping charges, and I don't have any handling fees, which I do state in my descriptions.
How can anyone run a successful business not knowing where their items are going to be in the searches or how much their fees will end up being.
Your right - it is backwards.
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 Caroline
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hwahwa
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posted on October 2, 2008 12:33:29 PM new
If I see this auction,I would think it is vintage or original since they are not making these anymore and the price is 9.95?
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Gulag-a Soviet era concentration camp is now reincarnated as EBAY with 13,000 rules.
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ladyjewels2000
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posted on October 2, 2008 02:11:17 PM new
Maybe for once ebay has it right with their rules. Soon they will require us to put in the description if something is new or not.
I don't think it would have mattered in this case, as I think Caroline was right on the money with her statement.
Don't worry about it - you did nothing wrong
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neglus
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posted on October 2, 2008 03:05:37 PM new
They already have plans for this and use it in some categories: "condition". They need to add a "vintage" condition
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http://stores.ebay.com/Moody-Mommys-Marvelous-Postcards?refid=store
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blueyes29
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posted on October 2, 2008 03:19:43 PM new
This post brings up something I've always wondered about. If an item was made in 1960, has never been used and is in the original, unopened packaging, is it "new"?
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cblev65252
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posted on October 2, 2008 03:46:58 PM new
It's considered NOS (New Old Stock). Putting NOS in the title is all that's needed. I would say, yes, it is new.
Cheryl
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merrie
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posted on October 2, 2008 03:49:14 PM new
Other words that can be used for vintage, but unopened items are : Mint, NRFB, NIB
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shagmidmod
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posted on October 2, 2008 03:51:37 PM new
"If an item was made in 1960, has never been used and is in the original, unopened packaging, is it 'new'?"
Yes and no... I would list it as "Vintage-Never Used" or "Vintage-New" with a clarification in the description.
That is a great question, and one that I have always considered when something is vintage.
But here is a question...
If you find something like a modern blender (made within the last year or so) at a garage sale or thrift store that has obviously never been used (in the box/package)... do you call it "new"? or should you refer to it as "open box" just in case or make reference to how/where it was purchased?
These are all concerns that buyers should most definately have... but I have a hunch that most sellers would have a hard time explaining.
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blueyes29
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posted on October 2, 2008 08:39:15 PM new
I know mint and MIB but what does NRFB stand for? I'm drawing a blank...
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pmelcher
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posted on October 3, 2008 02:18:22 AM new
never removed from box I think people use that to cover themselves just in case the product is somehow damaged but still new in box. Some things can be chipped or even not working even though the box has never been opened and item examined.
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merrie
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posted on October 3, 2008 06:02:47 AM new
I only use NRFB when it is a vintage item, like a Star Wars doll that can be seen through the front and the tape is still intact on the top and bottom of the box.
I would never use it for something that can be easily removed from the box for inspection.
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ladyjewels2000
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posted on October 3, 2008 05:34:42 PM new
I've never heard some of these terms. I guess they are more for the collectible market?
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KarenMx
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posted on October 6, 2008 05:18:57 PM new
I'm not really into collectibles...is NRFB "never removed from box"?
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zippy2dah
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posted on October 6, 2008 05:29:26 PM new
Yes.
Here are some more.
MIP = mint in package
MIMP = mint in mint pkg
MIB = mint in box
MIMB = mint in mint box
MOC = mint on card
MOMC = mint on mint card
NM = near mint
NMIB = near mint in box
NMIP = near mint in package
NMOC = near mint on card
NRFB = never removed from box
NRFP = never removed from pkg
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