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 bunnicula
 
posted on August 29, 2001 11:00:29 PM new
In less than a month, Banned Books Week will be coming 'round again: September 22-29.

Censorship is alive & well, and a growing number of folks seem to feel that if *they* don't like a book then *no one* should be able to read it. Everyday in this country a book is banned or challenged somewhere and all too often schools & libraries cave in without a fight. Don't let others dictate what you, or your children, should be allowed to read.

You can find a list of the most challenged or banned books here:

http://www.ala.org/bbooks/challeng.html
 
 sadie999
 
posted on August 30, 2001 12:43:29 AM new
Great link! The 1990-99 stats were interesting:

1,446 were challenges to “sexually explicit” material
1,262 to material considered to use "offensive language”
1,167 to material considered “unsuited to age group”
773 to material with an “occult theme or promoting the occult or Satanism,”
630 to material considered to be “violent”
497 to material with a homosexual theme or “promoting homosexuality”
397 to material “promoting a religious viewpoint.”

What I get from the above is that folks who want to ban books think sex (and three other categories) is more offensive than violence. Now that's a group of people I can live without for always!
 
 lrlover
 
posted on August 30, 2001 04:16:36 AM new
Farenheit 451

 
 donny
 
posted on August 30, 2001 04:47:49 AM new
When I was about 12, growing up in NYC, one of the activities I and my group of friends did in our rounds of 'hanging out' was browsing around in the public library.

One of these times, the title of a book lying around caught the eye of the girl I was with; Thinking it was a religious book, she picked it up, read the synopsis, and put it down again, with the comment "I don't like to read books where things happen to children." Being the contrary sort, I picked it up myself, checked it out, and took it home. It was E.L Doctorow's "The Book of Daniel." Reading that book was a watershed moment in my life.

I'm sure it would be considered inappropriate for a 12 year old. But, things were different then, we weren't as much concerned with appropriateness as we were with the freedom to read, and the librarian didn't bat an eye when I checked it out. Perhaps if my parents had noticed I was reading it, and if they'd been familiar with it themselves, they might have taken it away. But, they didn't, and the book was a revelation to me, it was from that moment that I began to develop an adult perspective. I remember it very fondly.
 
 snowyegret
 
posted on August 30, 2001 06:12:00 AM new
2 of the books on the most challenged books from 90 to 99 were required reading in junior high for me, and 1 in high school. I went to school in Tx.

To Kill a Mockingbird

Flowers for Algernon

Native Son

I still remember those 30 years later as powerful writings that made me think and question and feel.

Thanks for the link, bunnicula. I'll be feeding my brain with some of those.

 
 Hjw
 
posted on August 30, 2001 07:19:57 AM new
bunnicula

Thanks for such an interesting link! I can remember when challenged books were kept behind the librarians desk.

I was very surprised to find the children's book
by Maurice Sendak mentioned...I think that nudity in the illustration was a problem.
LoL

Some banned books can be read on line...

http://digital.library.upenn.edu/books/banned-books.html

Helen

ubb ed.


[ edited by Hjw on Aug 30, 2001 07:22 AM ]
 
 Femme
 
posted on August 30, 2001 07:35:21 AM new

Most enlightening link, Bunnicula. Thank you.

I am absolutely stunned by some of the books on the list:

To Kill a Mockingbird?

The Color Purple?

Fallen Angels?

I may be wrong, but, wasn't Fallen Angels the book about the Civil War, on which the movie "Gettysburg" was based?

If so, by all means, let's shield young people from the ugliness of our history.

How would one go about sugar coating the Civil War?

I read Lady Chatterly's Lover when I was a young teenager and remember my mother being shocked when I told her.

No one has the right to tell me what I can and cannot read.

And, I certainly didn't need the do-gooders to tell me what I could or could not let my children read.

Live and let live, dammit!!!!



 
 bunnicula
 
posted on August 30, 2001 07:41:45 AM new
I was so lucky growing up: there was literally nothing that my mother ever forbade me to read. She was always willing to discuss things that I didn't understand or which were controversial.

There are many parents that I meet daily who are so fearful & restrictive. Fairy tales? Oh no. Too scary. Laura Ingalls Wilder? Oh no. Ma Ingalls' attitude toward Indians wasn't PC (though historically accurate). Harry Potter? Oh no. Satanic. Huckleberry Finn? Oh no. Racist. So many want to avoid anything that is controversial, thought-provoking, sad or in any way upsetting. Their kids are restricted to literary pablum.

It's bad enough they do it to their own kids. But these are the kinds that often will work very hard to get books removed from school reading lists. I remember when I was in the 6th grade, my mother protested when this was attempted by another parent. Thanks, Mom.

 
 donny
 
posted on August 30, 2001 07:48:39 AM new
My mother took a book away from me once. I was 9 or 10, it was "The French Connection." A classmate had given it to me because his mother wouldn't let him read it. I hadn't even gotten through the first chapter when my best friend's father noticed it. He told my mother I was reading it, and she took it away. I never have read it.
 
 Hjw
 
posted on August 30, 2001 08:06:37 AM new
After Donny's first post, I realized that I had not read The Book of Daniel so I did a search on Ebay, using the title and up pops a book called "Bunnicula Escapes" ending in 27 minutes.

How weird is that!!!

Guess I'll try Amazon. LoL!

Helen

 
 rhondalee65
 
posted on August 30, 2001 08:39:54 AM new
I also found 6 books that I can remember were required reading for me in junior/high school. I just read "Brave New World" again a couple weeks ago.

Could someone please explain to me why "Where's Waldo?" is on this list?????

Rhonda


 
 Hjw
 
posted on August 30, 2001 08:42:48 AM new
Well, I was able to order a copy from Amazon by using the author...title search did not work.

Before this, I tried Ebay and got the same results as before...a list of unrelated books.

Maybe I need another gallon of coffee.

Helen

 
 jamesoblivion
 
posted on August 30, 2001 08:44:11 AM new
James and the Giant Peach?

 
 Hjw
 
posted on August 30, 2001 08:55:57 AM new
Where's Waldo

a tiny drawing of a woman lying nude on a beach. LoL

http://www.slugwire.org/weekly/archives/99Oct28/banned.html

helen

 
 Hjw
 
posted on August 30, 2001 09:06:25 AM new
Didn't the giant peach roll over and kill some aunts?

Helen

 
 Hjw
 
posted on August 30, 2001 09:11:52 AM new
James

Children could read that book and start killing their unwanted relatives. LoL

Helen

 
 jamesoblivion
 
posted on August 30, 2001 09:15:37 AM new
Come to think of it, Helen, the book almost made me do that. But I couldn't find a peach large enough.

[ edited by jamesoblivion on Aug 30, 2001 09:16 AM ]
 
 Hjw
 
posted on August 30, 2001 09:23:35 AM new
LoL

You gotta be more creative and make one!!!

Helen

 
 jamesoblivion
 
posted on August 30, 2001 09:25:20 AM new
Build a better peach?

 
 Hjw
 
posted on August 30, 2001 09:34:16 AM new
Yes!

The banned book committee was afraid that some little guy might just do just that.

If not a better peach...then maybe some other lethal instrument of murder.

Helen

 
 arttsupplies
 
posted on August 30, 2001 09:44:23 AM new
>...<
[ edited by arttsupplies on Sep 7, 2001 08:55 AM ]
 
 Borillar
 
posted on August 30, 2001 09:51:38 AM new
Dang! There's those DEMOCRATS going on and on and on and on ...



 
 snowyegret
 
posted on August 30, 2001 10:56:05 AM new
Borillar, I'm a Republican.






 
 bunnicula
 
posted on August 30, 2001 12:51:52 PM new
jamesoblivion: James & the Giant Peach has been challenged "because it encourages disrespect for parents/guardians."

 
 Hjw
 
posted on August 30, 2001 01:57:07 PM new


Helen

 
 victoria
 
posted on August 30, 2001 02:29:26 PM new
I'm all for parents making informed decisions on reading material for [b]their[/i] children.
It's the ones who knee-jerk their way through life, the ones who don't even read the books, who irritate me.
Equally irritating are the ones who want to save MY child from all these evil books.

Mind Your own Business Nosy Neighbors.

I personally read a lot of these banned books myself, and my daughter has read many that are age relevent (Harry Potter, Goosebumps etc. The Witches and A Light in the Attic??!! Who's stupid idea to ban them was that?). She will likely read many of the other banned books in the near future, and I will help her to understand the ones which have some outmoded concepts, like Tom Sawyer & Huckleberry Finn.

I thought Catcher in the Rye was boring, but I read Flowers For Algernon and To Kill a Mockingbird several times for fun.



 
 donny
 
posted on August 30, 2001 02:59:55 PM new
I thought "The Catcher in the Rye" was boring too (though my college aged son loved it.) And, I've started on "The Decameron" several times, and never got very far. That's a problem with some of these famously "banned" books, they just don't live up to their billing, they need to get dirtier quicker.

Helen, I hope you'll enjoy "The Book of Daniel," I did.
 
 Borillar
 
posted on August 30, 2001 06:05:57 PM new
doony: try Slaughterhouse-5 by kurt Vonnegut, Jr. and Catch-22 by Joesph Helm. Both have been banned forever, but are good, easy, and funny reading.



 
 Hjw
 
posted on August 30, 2001 06:59:47 PM new

Donny, Thanks!

I'm sure that I will!


Borillar

That's my favorite Vonnegut book! After Slaughterhouse-Five, Vonnegut seemed to mellow out a bit. The Joseph Heller book, Catch 22, is a classic! Great suggestions!!!

Helen

 
 donny
 
posted on August 30, 2001 07:36:02 PM new
I'm ashamed to say I've never read any Vonnegut, I've always meant to, though I did see the movie version of Slaughterhouse-5 (and I wasn't impressed at all.) Vonnegut was one of my father's favorite authors, I remember many of his books lying around the house. Catch-22, another of my father's favorites, I must've read 3 times, loved it. I passed it to my kids when they were in high school and they were both crazy about it. I tried another Heller book, long ago, think it was called "Good as Gold," and I hated it.
 
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