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 arttsupplies
 
posted on September 8, 2001 08:15:27 AM new
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I offered to have a discussion with spazmodeus about my postings to the "Amazing Race" thread privately and off-list.

Setting up a hotmail account takes less than 5 minutes...I know

<arttsuppliesizdead@hotmail>

Since spazmodeus hasn't posted an email address and has posted to other threads repeatedly since, this is going to be brief, I hope , considering spazmodeus wishes a public forum or nothing.

The "Not So Fast" thread is inching down the page towards second page siberia...

Onwards...

spazmodeus

In response to your post in "AR"

Once again I tune in to discover that arttsupplies ... oops, the artist formerly known as arttsupplies ... has poopied on my post, then edited away his/her words so that while some people were able to read them, one of the people he/she dumped on (namely me) cannot.

This is becoming a pattern, arttsupplies. Why are you so quick to erase your words? Do you post and a few minutes later regret what you've said? But how can that be? Don't you think before you post?

my responses:

Once again I tune in to discover that arttsupplies ... oops, the artist formerly known as arttsupplies ...

Kind of interesting if you wrote this in an alliterative way...

oops, the artist formerly known as arttsupplies...

but kind of stale if you were alluding to the musician.

...the artist formerly known as arttsupplies ... has poopied on my post, then edited away his/her words so that while some people were able to read them, one of the people he/she dumped on (namely me) cannot.

I believe my second post, which you missed, had one direct reference to you. I quoted your reply to another post from someone else.

You wrote:

Now that's just hypocritical of your friends. Either everybody uses the words or nobody does. Nobody has a proprietary or exclusive right to words.

I wrote, and I am paraphrasing from memory:

>I tell you what, we'll play a childrens game. You go up to any group of black men on a street corner and I DARE you to start talking to them in the manner in which they talk to each other...

<poopy_part>
If they beat your ... down please try to explain to them the hipocracy.
</poopy_part>

You seem to be comfortable with this universal truth which you espouse...Maybe there is something else going on? Not everything is black & white. Black people, I've heard/read and seen on TV, state that they are using this language to get back at non-blacks and ease some of the injury it represents from non-blacks who utter these words/phrases. This is from many different types of black people I know, I even know some thugs which is what most people who are reading this equate the language with. It crosses, though, all black socio-economic levels.<

Italisized was added and was not in my original post...

This was the only direct reference to you, that I can remember, which might be considered dumping on you. I think it actually was the only time I referenced you directly in this long post that you missed. My last post had nothing to do with you directly.

This is becoming a pattern, arttsupplies. Why are you so quick to erase your words?

I was so quick to erase my words because as I said in my "artsupplies is dead" post I realized I was saying some stuff that was offensive to some and it in no way should be coming from an employee of "artsupplies",an off-shoot of an art supplies retailer. If the owner would have read some of these posts he would have been pretty upset. He does not want to rock the boat where eBay is concerned. He just wants to make as much money as he can. As others have posted, it is not wise to post in the RT with your eBay ID.

I tried to erase EVERY post that I have ever made to this forum. I've probably missed some but I'm not going to digging any more.

Do you post and a few minutes later regret what you've said?

No, I regret NOTHING of what I've said in this forum except for the personal attacks.

But how can that be?

?

Read above...You're not a good mind reader, don't try.

Don't you think before you post?

Yes, I did think before and while I was writing these posts. The only error was not leaving the AR posts up longer for you to read them.

I was going through my past posts and deleting them , for the reason I stated above, when I got paranoid that someone would notice this slashing... and copy and paste the AR posts before I could delete them. So I came back and deleted them. That is why I gave you Kudos for finally, someone, pasting my posts for posterity.

I wish you could have read the second post with the one reference to you but this one reference to you is preserved forever, above.

My fourth post had nothing that involved you. It was a line-by-line response to another's post.

__

saabsister, thank you for your two posts to the AR thread.

bunnicula cowardly? maybe yes. but not in the way you a proposing. The above reply to spazmodeus, I hope, helps you understand why I deleted all of my posts to this forum. Cowardly in...

I want to keep my job! I make decent money and I am saving up to move to Chicago. I will be completely done with this auction stuff no later than about february. I would like to be employed until then. Hopefully I can get a job long distance sooner.

I stand by eveything I said in those posts and do stand by my convictions. I hope the above reply to spazmodeus reflects the reason for my deletions.

Now ... hepburn

This will be brief.

Interesting...

you wrote:

What you typed is something to "ponder". Makes sense. Some of it I want to debate over, but not right now. BB2 is coming on...

then when spazmodeus disagreed with what I was trying to explain you you took one paragraph out of 15 in my post as a personal attack and said...

What I see in that post is your perspective of what YOU liked about a certain poster...

Later, jokingly you mimicked my using the phrase "bold mine". The reason I used it was because I was trying to emphasize a certain portion of what I was quoting to try and help people understand my reply without a reader thinking the quoted person had used bolded text in their post. I have no idea (well maybe I do...) why you would use this phrase as you did because you were quoting phrases within no other context to be misunderstood with reason for the bolding of them. Sorry if this sentence is sloppy. I think it is worth reading a couple of times to understand.

I'm not going to rehash anything else because I know you've read all of the posts that were deleted.

Some lasts words of wisdom, though, from you:

...And to be perfectly honest, I see lots of holes I could punch in that argument of yours arttsupplies

which never materialised...but you did have the time to post such an astute and obviously well thought out observation as...

Spaz! What did ya win? Huh? Wanna trade? Wait a minute, I dont know what I won either. Well, wanna trade anyway? Yours is better than mine. I think.

--

Now to cue the broken record once more...

I'm gone.
No new ID.
No posting under this one.
Lurking for awhile.
That'll end soon.

Peace

Moderator please lock this thread [ edited by arttsupplies on Sep 8, 2001 08:16 AM ]
 
 bunnicula
 
posted on September 8, 2001 08:22:04 AM new
artsupplies: no, you have not "explained" it. Your job was never in jeopardy, whatever it is...

 
 arttsupplies
 
posted on September 8, 2001 08:27:10 AM new
bunnicula

Shallow, you know nothing about me or my job. I tried to be as civil in this post as possible. Up until I quoted hepburn to end my post I believe I had...

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 bunnicula
 
posted on September 8, 2001 08:28:28 AM new
That's right--and neither does anyone else here. SO how could your job be in such jeopardy that you "have" to erase all your posts?!?

Nothing shallow about it.

Edited to add: many of us here have well-paying jobs. But we seem able to post our viewpoints without going back & erasing them all. I know I have posted viewpoints that others have not liked--and I have even stated where I work & what I do here on AW. Guess what? Still have my job. No one tried to get me fired. My email addy is available here on AW. Guess what? No sinister emails have come my way.

And I have yet to demand a thread be closed because I couldn't face the conversation it raised.
[ edited by bunnicula on Sep 8, 2001 08:36 AM ]
 
 pattaylor
 
posted on September 8, 2001 08:44:24 AM new
Locked at the request of the originator.

Pat
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