kraftdinner
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posted on October 16, 2001 09:21:39 PM new
Are you the same person you were on September 10th, or have you changed? In what ways? 
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shoshanah
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posted on October 16, 2001 09:35:56 PM new
Krafty...I would'nt change for anything in the world. I like myself 
Gosh Shosh
Moi
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tegan
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posted on October 16, 2001 09:38:51 PM new
I am a little sadder but that is the only down side. I feel stronger in my beliefs,even more proud to be an American and as I have said before in another post I feel less alone than I ever have in my life.Maybe I value life a little more,but that might also be the effect of a friend passing away recently.
I am not afraid. Ever since I worked as an EMT I have had the theory that when your numbers up it is up. Out of cars so crushed they looked like skateboards we pulled people who survived without a scratch on them
and found fatalities in cars with barely a scratch or dent on it.You just never know.
I refuse to be cowed by these bullies.
How scary can they be, thier leader is hiding in a hole in the ground?
Maybe there are other changes but these are the ones I have noticed.
[ edited by tegan on Oct 16, 2001 09:39 PM ]
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uaru
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posted on October 16, 2001 09:48:15 PM new
I've changed in that I'm more understanding of Israel's approach against terrorist. Probably a lesson that wasn't planned but that's the lesson I learned.
As far as my day to day routine, no change.
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shoshanah
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posted on October 16, 2001 09:54:33 PM new
Actually, yes, I made a change. I used to never, nerver, EVER watch TV during the day. Now, I have the World News channel (DW)on, right in my working area while I drink my first cup of coffee.
Gosh Shosh
Moi
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mybiddness
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posted on October 16, 2001 10:04:08 PM new
I'm angry. I'm more angry than I've ever been in my life and instead of the feelings lessoning with each passing day it only seems to escalate. I'm trying to find a way to either eliminate the anger or to channel it into something productive. So far no luck. But, if I stay angry I lose... so I won't.
Not paranoid anywhere else but here!
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Hepburn
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posted on October 16, 2001 10:10:19 PM new
I mellowed out since Sept 15 or so. Went thru some phases, some good, some not so good. I like to think of it as "growing".
I wonder what mode I will find myself in next.
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docpjw
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posted on October 16, 2001 10:32:00 PM new
I don't think I have changed even a "little" Bit. I am not sure though, if that is Good or Bad. I am what you would call a conservative Liberal (I know, doesn't make sense), with a little YellowDog Democrat Mixed in. 
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mildreds
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posted on October 16, 2001 10:32:15 PM new
mybiddness: My feelings exactly. I wanted to nuke everybody today, (including my ex--my daughter had second degree burns and he wouldn't take her to a Doctor) although I think PMS/menopause starting had something to do with that!!!!! as I wish we had never developed nuclear power to start with.
I am just worried we are not doing enough to get rid of the Trojan Horses Bin Laden sent to this country and that we welcomed with open arms.
Maybe if there is a nuclear war 0r we lose half the population to small pox, then we can deport some of the students on Visas, etc.
[ edited by mildreds on Oct 16, 2001 10:41 PM ]
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mybiddness
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posted on October 16, 2001 11:14:26 PM new
Mildreds What I've been angry about is that this whole thing wouldn't have ever happened if mankind would quit trying to use God as a weapon against each other. "God" doesn't care what we call him or which path we take toward him as long as our path is toward him... toward Love. I have always thought it was sad that we seem to "have" to divide ourselves one against the other. Whether it's height, weight, color of skin or spiritual beliefs - we seem to think we have to try to make everything in our lives a "them verses us." Why? Where has that led us? God is God and God is love - only. Nothing else. No matter what I call him or what bin Ladin chooses to call him... So, how did we manage to turn a God energy of love into a weapon of hate?
Now, I'm not angry... back to feeling sad again.
G'night.
Not paranoid anywhere else but here!
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gravid
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posted on October 17, 2001 05:17:39 AM new
Religions used to offer something to government - a control on the people that extended beyond the influence the government had on them.
Today the people do what they jolly well want when they go home even if they do go to a church.
Religion has gone from being an ally and an asset to being a huge liability and when they realize that they will tax and regulate the churches right out of any meaningful existance.
Americans have gotten used to not having religion be the first and biggest question about their identity like in much of the rest of the world. Yet everyone in the WTC was attacked in a religeous war. It would have made more sense to attack them because of their jobs - which is what placed most of them there, and is the first thing most people ask a stranger now - What do you do?
This attacking people for their religion is something we see other people do on TV in other parts of the world and think it stupid. It is not going to increase the popularity of religion in general here.
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Mylanta
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posted on October 17, 2001 05:26:25 AM new
Yes. I have changed.
The following is the main part of a post in another thread that I posted to today.
This seems like a good place to post it as well.
We won't just give them a Holy War, we'll give them Holy Hell.
When this terrible business started I was trying to advocate reason and avoidance of wholesale conflict.
Now, I am leaning the other way. More and more these days I am feeling that all these terrorist scum and those who harbour them or have sympathetic leanings to their causes should just be obliterated, crushed like cockroaches.
It doesn't matter if they have actually done anything or not. They would if they could and are guilty by association.
They have had all the chances they need. They care little for the value of human life and dignity and their time is up.
I've always tried my best to be tolerant to others but now I've had enough and the sooner we all stop piddling about and listening to all the civil liberty whackos, radicals and other assorted morons the better off this world will be.
The message is simple. Live in harmony with us or get zapped like the bugs they are. If they want to play hard ball then fine. My side has a big bat.
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REAMOND
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posted on October 17, 2001 08:07:59 AM new
There is a good book called "Power Shift" by Alvin Toffler that address these religious terrorists. The book is about 10 years old.
Be warned, once you read one of Toffler's books, you will read all of them. He is the author of "Future Shock" from about 30 years ago.
Toffler offers fascinating insights about future trends and is chillingly accurate.
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sadie999
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posted on October 17, 2001 08:48:18 AM new
Maybe I'm shallow, but I've changed very little. I've grieved, been angry, etc., but have calmed down. I also believe there will be other incidences, so that is different, but its not an all pervasive fear, so it hasn't changed my life or how I do things.
Where I think I've changed the most is that I've become a bit more alert and concerned about my friends' moods. I'm on the egocentric side, but lately I'm listening harder to what's being said.
On the other hand, yesterday I received an envelope w/no return address, and opened it very carefully, being careful not to touch what was inside until I looked inside. Turns out it was just a local yahoo running for our town council. I wouldn't have done that before the 10th.
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breinhold
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posted on October 17, 2001 08:57:21 AM new
yes , I pay even closer attention to my family and friends.
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breinhold
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posted on October 17, 2001 09:41:52 AM new
by the way kraftdinner great to see you...still the best name!
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sallyhoffman
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posted on October 17, 2001 10:26:48 AM new
It changed me by making me appreciate so much more the little things in life - the warm snuggles with my beautiful, healthy children when they first get out of bed in the morning or after nap time; the extra long hugs I give my children and husband countless times throughout the day (hugs and saying "I love you" many times a day is not new, but cherishing each and every one of them and not taking any of them for granted is now something I think about all the time); watching our dogs perk up their ears and start chasing each other while they wait for my husband to get from the parked van outside into the house at the end of his work day (being ever so grateful that my spouse is alive and healthy....). I could go on and on but I think you get the idea....
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jt-2007
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posted on October 17, 2001 12:38:12 PM new
Our friend just called. He has 6 kids. He has a shovel. He is digging a BIG hole.
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kraftdinner
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posted on October 17, 2001 01:09:36 PM new
Shosh - Of all people! I remember you having to be escorted home and it scared the living daylights out of you. It scared me. That had to have had an effect on you, but I'm seeing you're quite a tough little cookie!
Same to you breinhold!!
{{{sadie}}}....I love your posts!
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