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 Borillar
 
posted on March 28, 2002 10:45:55 AM new
Funny, after fighting it like it was a diseased mad dog foaming at the mouth (not refering to McCain, but to Campaign Finance reform), out of the Blue he turns around and endorses it! Whatta Guy!

Of course, mysteriously as well, is the near simultaneous challanges to that Law; notably from the NRA and the Civil Liberties Union. They forsee a Supreme Court challange, whereby the Supreme Court will knock part of it down, if not all of it down as being "unconstitutional."




 
 krs
 
posted on March 29, 2002 07:11:12 AM new
Sure he signed it. It will hurt the democratic party more than it will him in 2004, and it doesn't take effect until right after the 2002 November elections so he can still push hard for republican seats in the senate which he can sell to the big repug donors as the last chance that their money will get what they want done.

 
 Borillar
 
posted on March 29, 2002 09:41:06 AM new
What hurts the Democratic party is their gutlessness and America knows it! It's the wash of million$ of Dollar$ in bribe money to SHUT-UP and PLAY-ALONG with the Facists. Not a single one of them has any guts to stand up and bitterly fight to the end for any Principles or for the People who voted them into there to Represent them. Oh sure, you hear them squawk once in a while -- when they need more bribes. Just enough Democrats SNEAK AROUND BEHIND OUR BACKS to Vote with the Fascits to pass their agenda and the rest Stand Up and Protest the Bill!

No, the American People KNOW SELL-OUTS when they see one! Unlike the Republican Voters, who are too lazy to learn any politics or the issues and only want to be led by a ring through their noses, Democrat Voters tend to be Intelligent and Research their Opinions instead of being TOLD What to Think like Republican Voters do. So, they are more aware of How, When, and WHY Democrat Politicans SELL US OUT!






 
 Borillar
 
posted on March 29, 2002 09:52:39 AM new
You know, maybe that really is one distinctive difference between Republicans and Democrats (the rest of America).

* Republicans look for Leaders who will Tell them what to do, what to think, where to go. Republican voters are sheep that want some Sheppard to guide them and do the hard decision making for them. They put all their trust in their leaders, and if a leader becomes Human, then they turn on him or her. On the other hand, if the leader is a LIAR, TWO-FACED, and a TRAITOR, well, then, they believe in him/her and what they did as being RIGHT because they don't want to THINK.

* Democrats tend to be people who get involved in the issues that matter to them. They know what they want and why they want it. They look for a leader who will beat the path to the doors of Law and make sure that what they are fighting for gets passed. When a leader becomes all too human, Democrats understand and do not judge. But when a democrat BALD-FACED LIES, CHEATS, STEALS, or Swerves from the Course, then he/she is pulled down as unfit.

- So, what makes a Republican Leader Fit to Lead is the Ability to take the lead and tell others what to do and to think. Their downfall: moral issues NOT related to the Job At Hand!

- So, what makes a Democrat Leader Fit to Lead is the Ability to Organize and Lead the Way to Get Things Done. Their Downfall: moral issues RELATED to the Job at Hand!

That, is at least from observations of politicians for 40 years now. Others may have a different interpretation.




 
 mlecher
 
posted on March 30, 2002 09:26:10 AM new
Recommended Reading....

STUPID WHITE MEN by Michael Moore

You are just not upset enough......


 
 chococake
 
posted on March 30, 2002 12:18:03 PM new
Sure Bush signed it, but then he turned around and appointed Michael E. Toner, to the Federal Election Commission, that enforces campaign finance laws. Toner is the Republican National Committee's top lawyer. He was very vocal and critical in debates about this law. Now he says don't pay any attention to those debates. I will set aside my philosophical views and focus on implementing new regulations that make this law fully effective. Sound familiar?
Bush pulled his little trick of recess appointments thereby avoiding Senate confirmation while Congress was on a break, to appoint Toner. He also named a vocal critic of affirmative action as civil rights chief at the Education Department.
Bush and gang don't care about how our government is supposed to function. Checks and balance? Ha, whats that, we'll do it our way!

 
 Borillar
 
posted on March 31, 2002 10:56:19 AM new
Exactly, chococake! I keep trying to find where the media is talking about organizing resistance groups to this outrageous behaviour and blatant lawbreaking by this adminstration. I can not find anything. All I read is about how the government is "cracking down" on "terrorist" groups within America! Protests get little to no coverage at all! Heck, if I hadn't made one thread earlier about Portland protesdting a staged visit by Bush, the RT would not have had ANY links to any media that was reporting the Uprising.

We are in a media black-out phase. The American voter is hoping that they can turn the tide with their votes. But we here at the RT know the truth: our politicians whom we elect to represent US are bought and sold like a commodity long before they sit in their seat in Congress!

Therefore, you and I are not the only ones to reach the conclusion that only by organizing, protesting, acting can America come together to restore democracy. All we need a is match and Washington D.C. will go Up!



 
 chococake
 
posted on March 31, 2002 11:14:24 AM new
Borillar, there is supposed to be some "Mad" csmpaign started in April. I think there will be T-Shirts, bummper stickers, and more. I've been hearing about it on KGO radio in San Francsco. It's going to be on their web site soon. I know they've been working on it months.

I think it's just KGO.com. The talk radio host is Ray Taliaferro.

 
 gravid
 
posted on March 31, 2002 11:52:10 AM new
just be very carefull.

The current mood is such that almost any opposition of the government will be viewed as treason even if you do not mention specific acts. Once you are in federal custody today you might as well be in the star chamber. If you survive the arrest.



 
 Borillar
 
posted on March 31, 2002 02:16:14 PM new
That's not much worse than protesters faced back in the mid-60's. I remember going to one at a university campus in '68 (I was a kid back then). We peacefully marched to demonstrate against the war in Viet-nam and we had a permit to march. About half-way there, the police had a barricade blocking the way. Off to one side - my right-side, was a tractor-trailer revving up. As we approached at nearly point blank, the helmeted police waved for the tractor driver to plow on into the group of marchers. Which he did with apparent glee (we being Traitors and all). Several people got run over and other attacked the police for perpetrating indiscriminate homicide against us. Long story short? The evening media reported how our protest march was nothing more than just a violent attack against the police, who were only trying to do their jobs and get back home alive from the insane protesters!

- A true story! -



 
 krs
 
posted on March 31, 2002 02:51:38 PM new


 
 gravid
 
posted on April 1, 2002 04:16:37 PM new
So Borillar it has been years since that demonstration. Did you keep track of who was involved for retribution or are you the forgiving sort?





[ edited by gravid on Apr 1, 2002 06:36 PM ]
 
 Borillar
 
posted on April 1, 2002 10:20:09 PM new
gravid, I was just a kid. The police couldn't care less that I and other kids were there peacefully marching and demostrating with our parents. to them, we were all traitors and children of traitors, good only for running over with mac trucks. Yep. Somehow, that has kinda left an impression in my head of sorts. Couldn't tell, could ya?




 
 gravid
 
posted on April 1, 2002 11:45:31 PM new
Well of course it would. I'm just the sort to shall we say hold a grudge? But if you were too small I understand. After 10 - 15 years slime balls like that have wronged so many people that when retribution falls on the dark wings of night the list is too long to figure out who might have a motive. They tend to look back six months or a year.

 
 Borillar
 
posted on April 2, 2002 07:22:06 AM new
Oh! HaHahaha! I understand. No. While I have my List (who doesn't?), I only have memories of American police trying to murder American children and peaceful adults for their political reasons. God will have to do the rest.




 
 
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