plsmith
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posted on April 12, 2002 11:25:30 PM new
Nigel Turner's documentary on the JFK assassination just completed another re-running on The History Channel. For those of you who are interested in the data presented in this production -- particularly the final episode, where one Lt. Colonel Daniel Marvin states that he was approached by a CIA agent (while a captain in the Green Berets in 1965) and asked to kill a U.S. Naval officer who had filmed JFK's autopsy at the Bethesda Naval Hospital -- you might want to read this and this.
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nycyn
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posted on April 13, 2002 02:14:33 PM new
Oh arright fer chrissake. Once upon a time I sold a book on the JFK killing on eBay (and got a nice price--"infinite profit" and was so intrigued by the autopsy photos and itty bit of text I read that I wanted to peruse it some before I sent it out. This was the only book that I was pissed off that I had packed it in advance. I was really looking forward to perusing it!
Every see the documentary on what they did to Marilyn? Got me believing Robert off'ed her.
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plsmith
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posted on April 13, 2002 04:55:54 PM new
Heh, Nycyn, I suspect it suits some grand comedic sensibility of The Great Favod that you are the only person who's bothered with this thread. Actually, there's not much to say -- this isn't a JFK Assassination website and I believe that the only other time I mentioned my interest in this ongoing "investigation" I was addressed as "Sisyphus" by Snowyegret. 
But I'm a great believer in posting for The Lurkers, and I know that none of the information and opinions posted here go unnoticed.
misplaced woids...
[ edited by plsmith on Apr 13, 2002 08:39 PM ]
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gravid
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posted on April 13, 2002 06:23:41 PM new
Is it recent enough that it still matters what happened? Would it change our lives if we found out a whole new story of the Lincoln assasination?
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plsmith
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posted on April 13, 2002 06:39:09 PM new
Gravid, this must be one of those "men are from Mars" moments. Surely you are aware that entire generations of Americans have grown up with an innate mistrust of their government. I (and many others) trace this phenomenon back to the Kennedy assassination and the lies our government has published as fact about it.
Talk to a teenager in your neighborhood -- see where he/she stands regarding the believability of the elected officials sworn to represent his/her interests.
Unless there are a secluded, deluded bunch of Young Republicans on your street, you're going to hear that, for the most part, they think it's all a sham and a scam. That's not the healthiest way to perpetuate a society, imo, so, yes, it does matter -- and very much so -- that the truth of the JFK (and Oswald) assassinations be brought to full light. Otherwise, it's as Robert Groden (JFK researcher) says: we're building on a lie, and if we can be lied to about this, what else are we being lied to about?
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nycyn
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posted on April 13, 2002 08:18:47 PM new
>>But I'm a great believer in posting for The Lurkers, and I know that none of the information and opinions posted here go unnoticed.<<
Um, you posted this for the lurkers until Gravid responded that is?
Me? I definitely play only to the audience sometimes. Then other times I'm definitely not.
Helpful?
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plsmith
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posted on April 13, 2002 08:26:19 PM new
"Helpful?"
Abstruse, in the sense of recondite.
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gravid
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posted on April 13, 2002 08:26:34 PM new
The corruption and lying is so great that finding out there was none in the Kennedy assasination would mean nothing to me. It would be like finding one count of innocence in a thousand count indictment.
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rawbunzel
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posted on April 13, 2002 08:37:43 PM new
It might be important to find out since many of the players are still alive and could still be in government positions. I would like to know.
Maybe even the Bushes had something to do with it.Certainly the Republicans and the far right. that said just for Borillar
*****waving to the lurkers*******
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plsmith
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posted on April 13, 2002 08:38:06 PM new
"The corruption and lying is so great..."
So, Gravid, have you always felt this way? Since boyhood? When/what tipped you off to this "truth"?
Edited to add:
"Maybe even the Bushes had something to do with it."
Do you know, RawB, there is a whole stinky, suspicious mess surrounding George Sr. and a particular tie to Cuba during the Kennedy era. I'd have to really dig to find it, though... buried in notes somewhere... *sigh*
Maybe Borillar knows!
[ edited by plsmith on Apr 13, 2002 08:45 PM ]
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krs
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posted on April 13, 2002 09:07:34 PM new
It's not a matter of finding out there was no lying and corruption in the Kennedy assasination, it's a matter of proving that such things take place in such a way that all would believe.
To me there is no doubt that it was a professional killing and I don't understand anyone who can maintain a belief that it was not. I don't need proof of that, but I'd like to see that those responsible are exposed because I believe that they are amongst some of the most powerful and respected entities in this country who have elected presidents and formulated policies which have been carried out to the great harm of all of us and much of the rest of the world. Some of them remain alive now and the legacy of those who don't lives on despite their deaths.
That killing defines the worst sort of political expediency in this country and shows that nothing is beyond the powers that do govern this country, nothing at all.
John Kennedy and his family had become icons of all that is good about America, whether you liked him, his personal frailties, or even his politics or not. He brought hope to people who had none and gave the country a revival of spirit which could not be denied by his harshest critics. You might walk the streets for years ripping the heart from each person you see and never equal that one act for it ripped the heart from this nation in a few moments of time.
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krs
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posted on April 13, 2002 09:19:38 PM new
Look behind the bushes:
http://prorev.com/bush.htm
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rawbunzel
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posted on April 13, 2002 09:27:14 PM new
Plsmith, I do know about that stinking suspicious mess and I used to have a bunch of bookmarks to information on it. I lost them when I switched to my new computer. 
Even though I posted that for Borillar, I did know of the theories concerning the mentioned parties. Theories that have always sounded quite plausible to me.
I see KRS has supplied a new link. Looks like I've got some reading to do!
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gravid
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posted on April 13, 2002 09:38:40 PM new
plsmith - Since boyhood? - Yes since I was about 14.
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rawbunzel
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posted on April 13, 2002 09:49:25 PM new
KRS, I think it was you that put up a link ~about the time of the great selection of 2000 ~ that dealt with the Bush family and the ties to Cubans and even something possibly tying them to the Kennedy assassination? Do you remember that or have the link still? I've looked for it again and can't find it.
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krs
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posted on April 13, 2002 10:02:38 PM new
Daddy Bush was the head CIA liason to the Cuban teams which organized the Bay of Pigs invasion, but that doesn't prove anything, right?
What type of people are in the CIA? Future presidents? Maybe if they are paid off for some supreme act.
http://www.sumeria.net/politics/kennedy.html
But all of that is only coincidence, right? Funny how coincidence follows people around.
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snowyegret
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posted on April 14, 2002 08:29:39 AM new
Smithyphus: noun any smith engaged in futile herculean tasks for knowledge which can never be verified
(see JFK assassination)
Smithyphusian
Smithyphusite
new words for google
Of course it was more than Oswald involved in that.
You have the right to an informed opinion
-Harlan Ellison
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Helenjw
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posted on April 14, 2002 09:09:19 AM new
What a fantastic thread, in which one comment made it worth reading.
Helen
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nycyn
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posted on April 14, 2002 11:48:14 AM new
Yeah, I'm telling you, that poor girl!
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