stockticker
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posted on July 10, 2002 04:11:00 PM new
Radical vegans — who avoid any product that comes from animals — are now buzzing about the evils of honey.
They claim its production uses the labor of oppressed worker bees, according to a Time magazine report on the growing numbers of American vegetarians.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,57150,00.html
Irene
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rawbunzel
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posted on July 10, 2002 04:15:13 PM new
Honey? Oh puh-leese! It's not like anyone is forcing bees to make honey.
Today in Seattle some "environmental terrorists" [that's what they called them on the news] set off smoke bombs in two downtown buildings causing their evacuation and a big mess in the downtown area.
Radicals.
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snowyegret
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posted on July 10, 2002 04:15:54 PM new
Something is killing off the bees. Maybe they'll get a raise.
Or unionize and invite the killer bees to join. Enforcement.
You have the right to an informed opinion
-Harlan Ellison
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Linda_K
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posted on July 10, 2002 05:38:49 PM new
LOL
And kiss a carnivore? Never. The survey revealed that 29 percent of committed vegetarians would refuse to kiss someone who just wolfed down a meal containing meat.
Even if they were their own mate?
Well....just goes to show you can't believe anything that's printed or heard on Fox News anyway. Even if they're quoting another source  [three] 
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gravid
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posted on July 10, 2002 07:12:30 PM new
Of course not. That would render them ceremonially unpure according to their religion. I mean you didn't think that complete belief system was a hobby did you?
Their god must look like the Jolly Green Giant and the devil has Fangs....
The cannibals used to file their teeth to points - the true vegan would have all theirs filed flat aa a cows.
[ edited by gravid on Jul 10, 2002 07:13 PM ]
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antiquary
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posted on July 10, 2002 08:26:06 PM new
Speaking of honey bees, I've seen more out this summer than I've seen in many years. The last several years, sightings were rare. So we may see a comeback. If they can make it here, they can make it anywhere.
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auroranorth
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posted on July 10, 2002 10:50:17 PM new
The survey revealed that 29 percent of committed vegetarians would refuse to kiss someone who just wolfed down a meal containing meat.
Wonder if any of them would kiss monica.
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REAMOND
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posted on July 11, 2002 09:46:47 AM new
Those bees take nectar from all the flowers I plant. Does that mean I am entitled to consume their honey ? If not, does that mean I can use force to eject the bees from my yard for stealing nectar and trespassing?
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gravid
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posted on July 11, 2002 10:41:12 AM new
But they also pollinate. I can see your whole yard in a mesquito screen enclosure.
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rawbunzel
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posted on July 11, 2002 10:52:42 AM new
I've seen two honey bees so far this year. Lots of bumble bees and other types but the numbers of honey bees here is really dwindling. Maybe that's why I have no tomatoes?
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snowyegret
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posted on July 11, 2002 11:57:07 AM new
Rawbunzel, the pot needs to bee sweetened. (Or you can do it by hand with q tips) I just picked my first ripe tomato today - Radiator Charlie's Mortgage Lifter is the first!
You have the right to an informed opinion
-Harlan Ellison
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julie321
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posted on July 11, 2002 01:29:47 PM new
Actually, tomatoes don't need bees to be pollinated. They have perfect flowers and just need some wind or movement. Flick or brush the flowers and they will be pollinated.
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antiquary
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posted on July 11, 2002 01:31:57 PM new
Rawbunzel, the pot needs to bee sweetened
Robin's growing a special new variety of "sweet pot"? I bet that's why she's been neglecting her tomatoes.
Congratulations on the Mortgage Lifter, snowy. I haven't gotten one of the heirlooms yet. The jetstars were first.
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rawbunzel
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posted on July 11, 2002 01:32:51 PM new
We've had plenty of wind and breezes and I've flicked them too. Still not one tomato. ****sigh****
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Helenjw
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posted on July 11, 2002 01:43:53 PM new
I didn't know about the bee - tomato connection until I read this thread. But, I've got lots of bees and green tomatoes....and birds. hahaha!
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julie321
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posted on July 11, 2002 01:52:31 PM new
Maybe it's too hot? Don't know where you are.
Tomatoes won't pollinate above 90F. May also be the use of a high nitrogen fertilizer?
If you really want to find a sollution, the tomatoes forum at gardenweb is a place to get it solved.
<a href="http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/tomato/">tomato forum</a>
I'd love to make this link clickable, but I can't type
[ edited by julie321 on Jul 11, 2002 01:57 PM ]
[ edited by julie321 on Jul 11, 2002 01:59 PM ]
[ edited by julie321 on Jul 11, 2002 02:01 PM ]
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rawbunzel
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posted on July 11, 2002 02:05:34 PM new
Sweet pot? Antiquary you snuck that one in while I was posting! I have not now or in the recent past ever grown anything resembling sweet pot.
Julie, The problem here is just the opposite. I live in Seattle and we had quite a bit of cool weather with only a day or two close to 80 in the last month or so. We had way too many days that didn't make it to 60.
BREAKING NEWS!!! I just went out and surveyed the tomato situation and discovered on one bush...the pixe tomatoes of course...three.....YES 3!.... tiny ,tiny tomatoes just forming up!! Something for salad anyway!!
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auroranorth
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posted on July 11, 2002 05:59:23 PM new
Tonight at 9 on tv 86 Arnold Schwarzenegger
in his stunning role as the POLLINATOR.
Pollinate, pollinate dance to the music.
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